ChristianPFC Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 2400 is including hotel. About half of my encounters are with money boys and on some nights I go home alone. I will publish some detailed numbers that anser all your questions soon. TotallyOz 1 Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'd rather be drinking your champagne Kuhn Worthy! Which glass would you like it in? Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Oh dear, Khun TW - but then you have already told us you are not a wine buff. None of the glasses you have shown are champagne glasses! Unlike the 1920s and 30s when open 'bowls' and swizzle sticks were what charming young men used to quaff champagne, nowadays it is the flute shape which is the only acceptable glass - Or of course, you can always just take a swig from the bottle itself. Often that is more satisfying, but Khun Koko might not approve Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Is that glass the definitive vessel for champagne drinkers everywhere? I guess if you are going to drink vintage Dom Perignon, it should be in the proper glass. Goes to show you what I know about champagne! Actually, I do think Khun Koko would approve of all 7. But isn't this seventh one, somewhat flute-like? I think he would drink from any of those glasses, or more likely-- all of them at the same time! Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Yes, the 7th is indeed a little flute-like. But for champagne, the upper part of the glass should lean slightly inwards. Apparently this helps the wine retain the bubbles to prevent them from escaping into the atmosphere and adding to global warming. Quote
kokopelli Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Actually, I do think Khun Koko would approve of all 7. But isn't this seventh one, somewhat flute-like? I think he would drink from any of those glasses, or more likely-- all of them at the same time! You provide the champagne and I will drink from any of those glasses. But, as FH states, it is best served in a flute. Either one with a stem or the new stemless design. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Ah, but Khun Pelli, global warming has indeed arrived in Pattaya! Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 If you serve it in that abomination, the heat from your fingers will soon warm up the champagne so it tastes - well - like warmed-up champagne! At a party to celebrate Christmas, the waiter handed round champagne. One guest, a Scot, noticed that his glass contained a fly. What did the Scotsman do? He grabbed the fly by the throat and shouted, 'Now spit out all that you swallowed.' Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 champagne .. yuck cant stand the stuff ... give me a nice cold glass of chang anytime .. with a handful of ice too .. now moving back on topic ... ooo get me ..... why on earth just because you are on holiday do you need to shag everyday ? was that the topic ?? .. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Back on topic, champagne really ought not to have a place in this thread! Quote
Guest Devint6669 Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Did you consider going by train (there is train service from Bangkok to Singapore), in the sense of the original post? Thanks to the op for sharing. I spend on average about 2400 Baht per day when I am in Thailand for holiday (if you take out bars and moneyboysI might reach 1500 - but the purpose of my holiday is not to safe money, but to have fun). I use public transport a lot, eat mainly Thai food (often on the street) and stay in cheap hotels (not more than 800 Baht per night). My post was about Chiang Mai To Bankok and Bangkok To Pataya.... The other guy on the site that post a lot's was no me (Is name is ABang) Have nice day Quote
Guest Devint6669 Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 champagne .. yuck cant stand the stuff ... give me a nice cold glass of chang anytime .. with a handful of ice too .. now moving back on topic ... ooo get me ..... why on earth just because you are on holiday do you need to shag everyday ? was that the topic ?? .. The Topic was cheap way to tavel and have fun in pataya.... and how to get there for cheap money... Quote
Guest Devint6669 Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 champagne .. yuck cant stand the stuff ... give me a nice cold glass of chang anytime .. with a handful of ice too .. now moving back on topic ... ooo get me ..... why on earth just because you are on holiday do you need to shag everyday ? was that the topic ?? .. The Topic was cheap way to tavel and have fun in pataya.... and how to get there for cheap money... If you serve it in that abomination, the heat from your fingers will soon warm up the champagne so it tastes - well - like warmed-up champagne! At a party to celebrate Christmas, the waiter handed round champagne. One guest, a Scot, noticed that his glass contained a fly. What did the Scotsman do? He grabbed the fly by the throat and shouted, 'Now spit out all that you swallowed.' I gest you forgot to say that he when back to sleep after... On the bar after he drink is glass Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 well the best way to have a cheap day trip to pattaya is walk there ... drink sea water while you are there .. have a wank instead of offing a boy forridge with the soi dogs for food .. then walk back home .. not a baht spent .. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 well the best way to have a cheap day trip to pattaya is walk there ... drink sea water while you are there .. have a wank instead of offing a boy forridge with the soi dogs for food .. then walk back home .. not a baht spent .. Is that what you do? Quote
Guest Devint6669 Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 well the best way to have a cheap day trip to pattaya is walk there ... drink sea water while you are there .. have a wank instead of offing a boy forridge with the soi dogs for food .. then walk back home .. not a baht spent .. Ok this is realy cheap and god way to have peacefule time.. But i liked just a bit more expencive... And the street dig i keep them away. Quote
Guest snapshot Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Yeah, it's easy to travel around Thailand for 1,500 a day and that can be fun if you're a young backpacker, just opening your eyes to the world and trying to make your dollars last. Especially if you're laying on a beach or island hopping in paradise. But then how low do you want to go? Millions of Thais travel around for even less. But that's because their earning power is so much lower - they have more time than they have money. At the end of the day, you don't really use these modes of transport if you value your time and energy and want to make the most of it. There's not much point being educated in a developed economy, having that sort of earning power and working for that sort of income if you then go and slum 200 baht room and waste a day travelling what could be done in a couple of hours... it's kind of like deliberately taking a step backwards. Thais are confused when they see this and wonder why the hell a "wealthy" foreigner would want to do that when millions of Thais would do the opposite if they had the means. but the purpose of my holiday is not to safe money, but to have fun). Who are you and what have you done to Christian? Quote
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 There are various reasons for wanting to do holidays cheaply. This may allow people to do more travel at a young age, whilst not compromising their long term finances. Or people might just find it much easier to take gap years or very early retirement if the travel budget is carefully controlled. In Thailand, I tend to budget over 1000 baht a night for rooms, as some of the places I've booked for less than that have been unsatisfactory. In Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos, I've sometimes been delighted with the quality that can be found for rooms costing about $35 a night. There have also been some pleasant surprises costing less than half that too. Quote
Rogie Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I'm sorry Devint, i am getting bored within the 'confines' of this topic, so I am posting more generally. I am also sorry to say you need to take more care in your replies. I'm sorry but the schoolmaster is 'in'. Your spelling is very poor, although I did laugh at your spelling of guessed . . . gest? that's a nice simple Webster-ish way to spell it! There's not much point being educated in a developed economy, having that sort of earning power and working for that sort of income if you then go and slum 200 baht room and waste a day travelling what could be done in a couple of hours... People with: Full time job = not much time, maybe a month at most = splash out! Older person with modest savings, currently out of work = budget carefully Younger person - 'gap year' loads of time but not much money = go for the 200 baht room! Despite the fact I prefer to travel on my own, when I was working I used one particular holiday company. Using a pre-booked tour allows you to budget well in advance, and once you've paid the price of the holiday that just leaves daily expenses, food, drink, souvenirs etc. One could go for an all-inclusive style holiday with as much as you can stuff yourself (and others?) and imbibe until senseless but that's never appealed to me, and I hate to think what kind of people your travelling companions will be. Ditto never fancied a cruise, seems to me a high incidence of bugs aboard ship, and that's if you manage to avoid a Concordia-like fiasco. There are various reasons for wanting to do holidays cheaply. Or people might just find it much easier to take . . . very early retirement if the travel budget is carefully controlled. Good point Z. I took very early retirement, and not because I was wealthy! So I had to budget very carefully on my first RTW trip. Gradually over a period of many years I realised I had been too 'mean' and although I was eating into my savings I could afford to splash out more. Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Is that what you do? why else would i say it ?? the only problem is trying to get the scraps off the dogs Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 i do not agree that just because you have money you should travel top class all the time .. whats the point of going anywhere if all you are going to do is stay in top class hotels, eating in top class resturants. you can do that wherever you are ... the idea of travelling 5000 miles for me is to take in the country .. sure i could fly from bangkok to chang mai .. or anywhere else .. yet i would go on the train and take in the locals and the country .. im afraid all this take of luxury is just showing off .. if you want to visit thailand then visit it .. dont act all donald trump , and make out you are better than everyone who lives there. Quote
Guest abang Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 This is abang. I mentioned that THB 1000 is almost impossible in Pattaya, if one chose not to eat street food and stay in UNSAFE rooms. I tried APEX hotel during my recent trip and boy, it was a nightmare at THB 700. The male receptionist with terrible case of bad acne was a negative example of service standards. He was crude and unhelpful... maybe, I wasnt buying him. Pattaya is relatively expensive... a deck-chair at Jomtien is THB 100! This amount is enough for 2 plates of chicken rice/noodles. Back to the topic... cheap is possible in Bangkok. There is a good backpacker's place at Soi Numphulee, that soi that we walk towards Babylon from Lumpini Station. Bunk bed start from THB 250 and if you are a farang, you may want to try to use the pool at Hotel Malaysia. Food-wise, cheap eats mean dining at food courts. Public transport-wise, dirt-cheap if you have can tolerate crowd and traffic jams. Night-life and other activities, you really dont have to pay moneyboys if you venture into Babylon or Chakran. Overall the daily expenses in Bangkok is half of what you could spend in Pattaya. Quote
Guest abang Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 One more first-hand experience on travelling cheap (if time permits). This time due to the holiday season, I could not get a ticket back to Singapore at the price I am willing to pay. As I have time on my hand, I chose land transport instead. The train from Bangkok leaves the station at 14:45 hrs and took abut 15 hours to reach Hatyai. The cost is THB 945 for a 2nd class lower berth. I took the chance to enjoy the scenery from Bangkok to Hua Hin (it reached at 18:45 hrs). The train station at Hatyai is right in town, just 3 short blocks away from the main hustle and bustle. The train arrived promptly at 7:45 hrs and I managed to secure my bus ticket to Singapore within 10 minutes. However the bus journey starts at 12:00 hrs, leaving me with 4 full hours to kill. First stop was a short walk to Lee Gardens Hotel. By some miracles, I even had a short swim at the !2th floor pool. The gym facilities looked good but the sauna looked eerie as it was hardly used. Next destination after the clean-up was a trip down memory lane. The town looks so much like Singapore in the 1960s. It was amazing. Finally, no true-blue Singaporeans can live without it - food and shopping. The food (in Thailand) is always flavourful and the shopping, I used up all my remaining THB... So it had took me more than 30 hours of travelling to get to Singapore. The total cost of train and bus was THB 1745. Comfort-wise, it beats travelling in restricted space on board the plane. One more note: The bus makes several stops in Malaysia. You need to have some MYR (cash) as the food is equally tempting. Dont miss the MEE REBUS at Yong Peng, the final stop before Singapore. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 whats the point of going anywhere if all you are going to do is stay in top class hotels, eating in top class resturants. you can do that wherever you are . . . im afraid all this take of luxury is just showing off .. if you want to visit thailand then visit it .. dont act all donald trump , and make out you are better than everyone who lives there. I partly agree with your first point. With international chain hotels, the hotel rooms are more or less the same and you get an indication of the country you are in only from some cheap framed prints on the wall. But there's a great deal more to seeing and experiencing a country than the room you sleep in. And I'm not with you on your second point. I do think it's illogical to suggest that those who stay in top end hotels are making out they are better than Thais who live here. How do you make that judgement? There are a great many people in Thailand far wealthier than many of those who choose to stay at top end hotels. Equally, many tourists who save up for an annual holiday don't want to live like the average Thai. They want something different and may elect to spend some of their hard-earned cash on the sort of luxury they'd never get at home. I don't believe the vast majority consider this is "showing off". Thankfully we're all different and have different ideas of what makes a holiday. If we weren't, the international tourism market would collapse overnight! Quote
Rogie Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Anang wrote in post #47: Pattaya is relatively expensive... a deck-chair at Jomtien is THB 100!This amount is enough for 2 plates of chicken rice/noodles.Overall the daily expenses in Bangkok is half of what you could spend in Pattaya. Could it be your experience in Pattaya was somewhat similar to Shamahan's (newbie poster) where he found owing to the influx of visitors hotels and guest houses raised their prices? If you plan any future visits Abang maybe better to avoid the Christmas and New Year holiday period. As for the deckchairs, at 100 baht you were surely overcharged! As far as i know the rate is still 30 baht and I don't think it matters whether you rent the chair for 30 minutes or all day. I paid 30 baht early last month on the beach in Jomtien, but it wasn't the gay section, it was opposite the guest house I was staying around the soi 9 area. You are right however in your comparison with what 100 baht can buy food-wise. There used to be a place on the corner, just as you turn onto the pedestrianised part leading to Dongtan beach, that sold chickens cooked on a spit. They were either 50 baht or 100 baht, can't remember, but a tasty snack for two people most certainly, washed down with a bottle of beer or water. Quote