Anyone tried tantric massage?

[Guest kwok007]

Hi I am a newbie to this forum.

 

I somehow came across a web of a massage place offering tantric massage in BKK. (I don't know if I am allowed to post a link) I would like to know if someone has some experience there.

 

Also their Thai massage is also at a higher rate compared with other massage shops. Is there anything special?

 

Thanks!

[Rogie]

Welcome to the Board Kwok007. No problem as far as I am aware of posting a link to a massage establishment. To the best of my knowledge I haven't had a tantric massage myself, but as I couldn't define what's involved it's always possible as there's no shortage of opportunities for massage in Thailand. One thing I would be careful about is making sure you get what you pay for, so for example the word 'tantric' could, in the wrong hands, just be an excuse to charge more for just a basic massage.

 

A search engine for 'tantric massage for men' comes up with what are probably just commercial massage sites. Here is one description of what is supposedly involved:

 

Tantric Massage is a way of developing and healing through ecstatic touch. A blissful state is achieved through a combination of deep relaxation, breath-work, meditation and body massage. Tantric Massage is a naturist experience where every part of a man's body is sacred and receptive to being energized.

 

Tantric Massage promotes the balance between the body, mind and emotions. It helps to open, release and channel the stored Chakra energies in your body. Tantric Massage is uniquely sensual and quite unlike any other form of touch therapy, Tantric Massage is the ultimate massage experience.

 

http://www.tantricmassageformen.co.uk/

 

Having now read that I can definitely say I haven't had a tantric massage, as described above. If it does al it says on the box I'd be happy to pay more. Problem is, if it's as wonderful as all that, I might become an addict, spending all my time and money relieving my Chakras.

[pong]

hello kwok, no, did not try it, but have read extensively about (and I presume the very same shops) in another forum.

1.the main branch (still assuming its the 1 and the same) has moved-a little out of the Silom main area, but closeby,. The 2nd shop (sam sen sidesoi nr-xxx-very far) has closed-long ago. The website does not look to be updated very often.

The discussion with more explanation and some reports from those who had done it (but possibly not in BKK) are on another ''specialised'' forum, of which i am not sure if it may even be mentioned on this.

[Rogie]

The discussion with more explanation and some reports from those who had done it (but possibly not in BKK) are on another ''specialised'' forum, of which i am not sure if it may even be mentioned on this.

 

From what you say Pong it would seem there are few places offering this service, so I am not surprised to learn it may be discussed on a specialised forum. What would surprise me would be if it was so 'specialised' as to be forbidden on this Board. For sure there are many things out there some folks do - for example the sadist/masochist debate whether people should be allowed to have things done to them or not, even if they are fully consenting - but we're not in that kind of territory, are we khun Pong?

[Guest kwok007]

Thanks guys. It doesn't sound popular. I will try googling to see if I can find more.

[Guest fountainhall]

I am now curious - and would love to know more! I remember a few years ago near the Village in New York being approached by an Asian guy handing out leaflets about a tantric massage service. He spoke to me and tried to persuade me to try one. He did make it sound interesting and interestingly 'different'. But he himself was not particularly attractive and so I did not bother. If there is one here in Bangkok, I'd be interested in giving it a try.

[kokopelli]

From the little I was able to glean from the web, this massage includes a digital massage of the prostate accompanied by manual stimulation of the Lingam along with oils, candles, etc.

 

Here is one link with photos for the curious who may wonder just what is a Lingam..

 

http://enlightenedma...antric-massage/

[Guest thaiworthy]

From the little I was able to glean from the web, this massage includes a digital massage of the prostate accompanied by manual stimulation of the Lingam along with oils, candles, etc.

 

Here is one link with photos for the curious who may wonder just what is a Lingam..

 

http://enlightenedma...antric-massage/

 

Personally, I think it would be more fun to give one of those messages than to get one. But that's just me.

[Guest kwok007]

Does traditional Thai massage include Lingam massage or it is just this tantric massage? I am kinda interested in Thai massage.

[kokopelli]

A traditional Thai massage is a form of torture whereby the masseur twists and manipulates the body. I would say, no, it does not include a massage of the Lignam. Others may disagree with my comments. However a Thai erotic massage does include massage of the Lignam and more, if and only if, the customer wishes that. It really depends on what type of massage house one visits.

[Guest kwok007]

A traditional Thai massage is a form of torture whereby the masseur twists and manipulates the body. I would say, no, it does not include a massage of the Lignam. Others may disagree with my comments. However a Thai erotic massage does include massage of the Lignam and more, if and only if, the customer wishes that. It really depends on what type of massage house one visits.

 

That sounds Thai massage wouldn't fit me...Thanks for the explanation!

[kokopelli]

Others may disagree with my description of traditional Thai massage and may enjoy the pain they endure and feel much better after their session.

[Rogie]

How would I feel if I was about to experience a tantric massage? Would I be excited at the prospect? I probably would, but that would be before I sat down and thought it through.

 

After doing so I reckon I would be a bit less enthusiastic. Why is that? Well, for a start I've only got a hazy idea of what's involved. Is all this talk about releasing the chakra energies a viable concept or is it hardly much better than a hot flannel? I'm not so sure I want to take that risk, especially if I'm going to have somebody I've never met before stick his finger up my bum and wiggle it around my prostate gland.

 

It could be said "so what's the big deal, maybe you like a cock up you". That may well be so. But to me there is a difference. If you participate in anal sex - even if you have not met the guy before and have only just got to know him - then you are having sex and that is a commitment from both of you. Even so-called anonymous sex is very personal; two bodies in close proximity, his warm breath and mounting excitement turning you on.

 

Compare that to going into a massage place, stripping and lying down on a mat and dreading the moment when the finger is inserted. Now I'll be honest and admit that isn't a fair description, it's probably far too clinical, so let's suppose you actually are quite excited by the time your masseur approaches the moment he will do it to you. I guess it's all about relaxation and if you feel relaxed and comfortable it will probably be ok, but if I ever decided to go ahead and explore that kind of thing I'd want to do it with somebody I knew and could trust. In the final analysis, and I know this sounds strange, even though 'tantric' massage isn't sex as such and even if I was the kind of person who enjoys anonymous sex, I wouldn't want to do it with just anyone, it'd have to be a very special person, one I could relate to on many levels, so that if tantric massage really did 'take me to a new level' I'd be doing it with a real friend, and not just an anonymous masseur who relates to you as just another customer.

[kokopelli]

Rogie, after reading your post I was so excited I now want to try it out; can't wait to have my chakra energy released.

[Guest kwok007]

I did some research and it doesn't seem like prostate massage is the main course... (which I don't know if it is true), but from what I found, it is more like genital massage. I might be wrong.

[Rogie]

. . . but from what I found, it is more like genital massage. I might be wrong.

 

No, I am sure that is so khun kwok. Restricting my comparison here to the so-called happy ending massage - where ideally the customer will feel some kind of attraction to his masseur - I think we have to distinguish between a fairly routine massage where the masseur gives you a body massage, which may or may not be done properly, terminating in a pretty speedy no-frills orgasm, and the tantric massage in which the genitals and the perineum become the focus. So I suppose, in a nutshell, in an ordinary happy ending massage your masseur is looking to relieve you as fast as possible whereas in a tantric one he will be trying his best to delay it - perhaps you could imagine that aspect as first violin (can't say first fiddle, that would strike the wrong note) with Koko's chakras playing as the orchestra in the background.

[kokopelli]

Hmmm, "in a nutshell", you do have a way with words Rogie. This tantric massage is beginning to sound more interesting. As for the prostate massage I read that on one site but not on the link I posted.

 

I do hope Kwok indulges himself and reports his findings.

[ChrisUK]

I'm so grateful to Kwok for starting this topic and to Rog and Koko for providing the informative links. It does all sound very interesting and has me on tenterhooks anticipating my next trip to Bangkok.

 

Last year I was on my own, having finished acting as guide for a friend who was in Bangkok on a stopover, so was looking for something to enjoy as it was early evening. i wandered down Soi Twilight and thought that as I hadn't had a massage from the parlours in that street, I ought to give one a try. I stopped at one and read the flyer listing the different types and prices, but thought I wanted something special to try, so I asked if they did body to body massage, which I'd heard about, but never experienced. The reply was that only the manager knew how to do this and then was told the price for massage and tip for 60 minutes, which seemed a bit steep. Either business was slow, or he took pity on me as he suggested a price which was more to my liking.

 

So off I was lead to a nice room with en suite and was showered for 10 minutes after disrobing, the masseur disrobing as well. After lying down I received what I expected, a body to body massage with oil for about 20 minutes, which made me feel I had made the right decision to experience a new type of massage. Then the masseur spent the next 20 minutes doing things to me I never expected, but I didn't complain as he asked at every stage if I was ok. I truly was ok and said so, leading to him pursuing more adventurously sensitive moves to the nether regions of my body.

 

To say I was on cloud nine is no exaggeration. I had never experienced the like before. He was being truly intimate and I knew he was just a masseur I had never met before, but I didn't mind as I was confident he knew what he was doing and their was no pain, just wonderful feelings waving through my body and mind. Having read through this thread, I now realise I must have been receiving a combination of body to body and tantric massages, most probably the Fusion type as detailed in Rogie's link. http://www.tantricma...ssage-choices/

 

The happy ending was almost irrelevent, but most welcome, except that I knew that was the end, apart from being showered again. So grateful was I after this wondeful new experience that I decided to give him the original asking price of 1,500Bt, rather than the negotiated one. It was worth every Baht.

[Guest Astrrro]

On Theppesit Soi 8 which is the continuation of Soi 17 there is a lady who specializes in prostate massage.

 

 

[Guest snapshot]

I wonder if tantric massage and urut batin massage are related.

 

Anyone tried urut batin?

[Guest Acirema]

Hi guys, Some of you have touched on the real tantric massage and some of you are just talking about a happy ending massage. I am a certified Massage Therapist who is trained in Tantric Massage. Tantric massage is a very intimate, trusting, sensual oil massage that covers the entire body but the focus is on the genital areas; (sometimes including prostate massage, sometimes not) I have never done a female one so I can't speak to that but I have done many male ones and it often (but not always) ends in an ejaculation but its not like any other one has experienced. It actually builds to such an extreme cresiendo that a body often experiences the most extreme orgasm of their lives ( whether it be ejaculating or just a dry orgasm) . i have had guys cum without either of us touching their penis.

 

There are some videos online I can direct you to if you are interested, just pm me.

 

I have performed many of these massages on The Thai guys when I visit and most are blown away by the powerful sense of release internally (spiritually) and externally (orgasm). And as someone said giving these massages are as rewarding for the giver as the receiver.

 

Send me a pm if you have questions. Maybe on my next holiday I can make some appointments and help pay for my holiday.

 

Namaste

[Guest thaiworthy]

Hi guys, Some of you have touched on the real tantric massage and some of you are just talking about a happy ending massage.

 

Acirema, interesting nomenclature. If you add the letter "N" to the front of it, you get Nacirema. The Nacirema present such unusual aspects that it seems desirable to describe them as an example of the extremes to which human behavior can go.

 

They are a North American group living in the territory between the Canadian Creel the Yaqui and Tarahumare of Mexico, and the Carib and Arawak of the Antilles. Little is known of their origin, although tradition states that they came from the east. Nacirema culture is characterized by a highly developed market economy which as evolved in a rich natural habitat. While much of the people's time is devoted to economic pursuits, a large part of the fruits of these labors and a considerable portion of the day are spent in ritual activity. The focus of this activity is the human body, the appearance and health of which loom as a dominant concern in the ethos of the people. While such a concern is certainly not unusual, its ceremonial aspects and associated philosophy are unique.

 

The fundamental belief underlying the whole system appears to be that the human body is ugly and that its natural tendency is to debility and disease. Incarcerated in such a body, man's only hope is to avert these characteristics through the use of the powerful influences of ritual and ceremony.

 

The supplicant entering the temple is first stripped of all his or her clothes. In everyday life the Nacirema avoids exposure of his body and its natural functions. Bathing and excretory acts are performed only in the secrecy of the household shrine, where they are ritualized as part of the body-rites. Psychological shock results from the fact that body secrecy is suddenly lost upon entry into the latipso. A man, whose own wife has never seen him in an excretory act, suddenly finds himself naked and assisted by a vestal maiden while he performs his natural functions into a sacred vessel. This sort of ceremonial treatment is necessitated by the fact that the excreta are used by a diviner to ascertain the course and nature of the client's sickness. Female clients, on the other hand, find their naked bodies are subjected to the scrutiny, manipulation and prodding of the medicine men.

 

It is to be hoped that, when a thorough study of the Nacirema is made, there will be careful inquiry into the personality structure of these people. One has but to watch the gleam in the eye of a holy-mouth-man, as he jabs an awl into an exposed nerve, to suspect that a certain amount of sadism is involved. If this can be established, a very interesting pattern emerges, for most of the population shows definite masochistic tendencies. It was to these that Professor Linton referred in discussing a distinctive part of the daily body ritual which is performed only by men. This part of the rite involves scraping and lacerating the surface of the face with a sharp instrument. Special women's rites are performed only four times during each lunar month, but what they lack in frequency is made up in barbarity. As part of this ceremony, women bake their heads in small ovens for about an hour. The theoretically interesting point is that what seems to be a preponderantly masochistic people have developed sadistic specialists.

 

Here's the link . . . if you are afraid of dentists, don't read about the mouth-rite! No happy endings here!

 

http://www.ohio.edu/...psoc/Body.html

 

However, Acirema I think I like your description best and would prefer it far more that the above-mentioned.

 

I have never done a female one so I can't speak to that but I have done many male ones and it often (but not always) ends in an ejaculation but its not like any other one has experienced. It actually builds to such an extreme cresiendo that a body often experiences the most extreme orgasm of their lives ( whether it be ejaculating or just a dry orgasm) . i have had guys cum without either of us touching their penis.

 

Otherwise, looks like Koko gets it right again. Hopefully no ladyboys get their heads baked in an oven.

 

A traditional Thai massage is a form of torture whereby the masseur twists and manipulates the body.

[Rogie]

Fascinating article.

 

Here are a couple more quotes:

 

Most cultures exhibit a particular configuration or style. A single value or pat-

tern of perceiving the world often leaves its stamp on several institutions in the

society. Examples are "machismo" in Spanish-influenced cultures, "face" in

Japanese culture, and "pollution by females" in some highland New Guinea

cultures. Here Horace Miner demonstrates that "attitudes about the body"

have a pervasive influence on many institutions in Nacireman society.

 

 

Note the comparison of Nacireman society with Japanese (and Thai also?) in their way of perceiving the world.

 

Our review of the ritual life of the Nacirema has certainly shown them to be a magic-ridden people. It is hard to un- derstand how they have managed to exist so long under the burdens which they have imposed upon themselves. But even such exotic customs as these take on real meaning when they are viewed with the insight provided by Malinowski when he wrote:

 

"Looking from far and above, from our high places of safety in the developed civilization, it is easy to see all the crudity and irrelevance of magic. But without its power and guidance early man could not have mastered his practical difficulties as he has done, nor could man have advanced to the higher stages of civilization."

 

That's quite some statement. It certainly is easy for us to look down on others from our 'high places of safety'. In some cases perhaps that's justified. Cannabilism? Yes, I think most would find it difficult to accept cannabilism as providing 'power and guidance'. Ditto human sacrifice. But in the case of many other cultures, and certainly including the Nacirema, one can sense the link with the past. Sadly that link has been severed in many cases and is tenuous in others.

 

The article quoted by TW was written over 50 years ago and much of the material mentioned was collected by anthropologists before the war. Even in out lifetimes whole ways of life have vanished - to be replaced by what? The onward march of 'civilisation'? Or even worse, explotiation. If the exploited of the world could give vent to their fate I suspect the 'smiley' crying icon would shed real tears.

[Guest Acirema]

WOW !!! I never thought my screen name would evoke such a response. trust me, my massages don't have anything to do with scraping ones' face.....

 

btw.....Acirema is America backwards.

[Guest thaiworthy]

Wow is right. Who knew? Coincidence, then. Nacirema is American spelled backwards. But you can't say you were completely ignored on GT. Just leave it to me to find this weird stuff.

 

If you google your name though-- it comes right to the top.