Guest fountainhall Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 This subject has been aired before on this Board, and each time it comes up I remain staggered at the numbers of people who actually dismiss scientific evidence outright and believe that man was created around 6,000 years ago. This CNN poll was actually taken back in May 2011 - so, why it only appears now on the website is somewhat baffling. In this day and age, when the utter vastness of our ever-expanding universe is a matter of fact, when Darwin Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 The Bible says God created man in his own image. But man first appeared thousands of years ago. I think the Protestants have a problem with that, so the claim is now that man came into existence 6,000 years ago. If you believe in the theory that man was created in his image back when men looked like apes, does that mean God still looks like an ape, too? Or did he evolve right alongside man? It would not be very Godlike to be seen in Cathedral paintings beating a pair of very hairy fists on a very hairy chest. And even so, how can an infinite spiritual being evolve just as man does? Ergo, man was created 6,000 years ago after the last hairy follicle fell off his equally hairy chest. Problem solved. There is such a thing as a leap of faith, but even then it would need to be at least logical. This is a leap of fantasy. It is impossible to accept the logic of God looking as man does today if one also accepts that God created man in his image thousands of years ago. It presents a paradox. It would be just plain undignified for any member of the clergy to be seen praying to a monkey, too. We have a boundless ego. We are beautiful, therefore God must be beautiful, too. Or is it the reverse? Just as there are mysteries of science, there are mysteries of faith, too. And belief in 6,000-year human history is otherwise one of mankind's greatest mysteries of all. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 And just how do those pastors explain away the age of the earth, I wonder, or indeed a universe in which a recently discovered galaxy is seven billion light years away? If you go by the Bible, did not man come after the light was created? Seven billion light years later, I suppose! The largest distant galaxy cluster has been spotted by astronomers using a telescope in Chile . . . Seven billion light years away and with two million billion times the mass of our Sun, the cluster was nicknamed "El Gordo" - "the Fat One" in Spanish. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16493790 Quote
KhorTose Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 And just how do those pastors explain away the age of the earth, No problem, both you and kokopelli asked this question. Well shame on your lack of belief. Just go to this web site where it is not only explained, but you can view dinosaurs and humans living side by side. http://creationmuseum.org/ Quote
kokopelli Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 It is not unreasonable that some people believe man was created 6000 years ago if you consider that written history started just about 6000 years ago. Of course in modern times we do know that man, as we know him today, dates back 50,000 years and his ancestor back 200,000 years and before that.....? And as for God creating man in his image well all I can say is.... Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Just go to this web site where it is not only explained, but you can view dinosaurs and humans living side by side Just looked it up and it sounds quite fascinating! "encounter creation, corruption, catastrophe, Christ, the Cross, and consummation" And when you're through with all that, you can have a coffee at Noah's Cafe! Glory! Hallelujah! Quote
PattayaMale Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I know very little about religion. I do have a view about it though. I don't believe in almost any of what is preached, but certainly leave room that my view may be wrong. "The Bible says God created man in his own image." ..Thaiworthy ..For most of us it is very hard to understand how something, anything can be created from nothing. So who created the first "something"? (I know the bibles were commissioned works so dismiss them as being anything more.) But where did the first "something" come from? Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I have an even more basic conundrum. We are told that our universe was created as a result of a 'big bang'. Prior to that there was nothing. We are also told that whilst the universe was created many billions of years ago, it is still expanding.Yet, if there was nothing at the time of that 'big bang', into what has the universe been expanding? And is this "what" a finite space? Quote
Bob Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I share part of the same conundrum, believing (logically, I guess) that one does not and cannot create something out of nothing. So I don't buy into that there was "nothing" prior to the big bang. As to your question about about what the big bang products have been expanding into, I don't have much of a problem with the notion that nothing is nothing and, by definition, it's an infinite nothing. Sometimes by our own experiences (i.e., an empty room), we tend to describe finite nothings and, I suppose, that the so-called voidness has to have dimensions. By definition, I don't think it can (or it wouldn't be nothing or void from my way of thinking). Then again, I still have no clue what as to what all those damn buttons are on my TV remote control..... Quote
kokopelli Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I have an even more basic conundrum. We are told that our universe was created as a result of a 'big bang'. Prior to that there was nothing. No one knows yet what was prior to the big bang. There may have been something but that has not been determined. There may well have been and still are other universes either the same or far different then the one we live in. An interesting aside, the Big Bang was first postulated by a Jesuit priest, George Lemaitre, a Belgian in 1931. The name itself came from a scientist, Fred Hoyle, who used "big bang" in a sarcastic manner to deride LeMaitre's theory. I would like to have included a mathematical explanation of the big bang but the necessary scientific notation is not included on my keyboard. Sorry. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I would like to have included a mathematical explanation of the big bang but the necessary scientific notation is not included on my keyboard. Sorry. Would anyone have understood it? Just as well, some notorious, ill-mannered ***guy would've accused you of copyright violation! Quote
kokopelli Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Fact is I am an expert on the Big Bang Theory. I watch it every night on TV. For those of you not familiar with this show, it is a sitcom in the USA and quite funny exploring the exploits of four post-graduate physicists who are roommates. It reminds me of my days at the university. For a more serious presentation of the Big Bang, etc, you can read "The Fabric of the Cosmos" available at Amazon.com Quote
