Guest thaiworthy Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Ahemm, it is "spanking the monkey" not the money.. Touch Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Any advance on five? The longest examples seems to be something like this with "that" being the repeated word. With six "thats" - Did the editor know that that "that" that that "that" proceeded was redundant? - and even seven - "It remains true for all that, that THAT "that", that that "that" refers to is not the same "that", that THAT "that" refers to." If all that sounds gibberish, the grammar is - "It remains true for all that [idiom], that THAT [particular] "that" [noun], that that "that" refers to is not the same "that" that THAT "that" refers to." And that surely is enough of THAT! Quote
Rogie Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 And that surely is enough of THAT! Fiendish stuff, and to think THAT there is a fiendish mind utterly obsessed with THAT word at large. Although thinking about THAT it might be better if he was safely locked away and THAT fiendish mind of his kept docile by a hefty dose of chlorpromazine. A mind THAT clever could be set on world domination! I think life's a lot more interesting down at the old Cock and Hand where sign painter Andrew is giving the landlord an 'ard time of it. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 . . . an 'ard time of it. . . . and a less than anticlimactic 'and job at the same time, no doubt Quote
KhorTose Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 It must be that LMTU has been too long in Thailand and has acclimatized to the Thai style of writing. Okay not LMTU, but know that in a good writers hands bad spelling and bad English can be a work of art. "He walked out in the gray light and stood and he saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. And somewhere two hunted animals trembling like ground-foxes in their cover. Borrowed time and borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it." OR THIS LONG RUN-ON LMTU TYPE SENTENCE ""The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning. These are two quotes by what can easy be said to be one of the worlds best writers of English, and yet most English teachers would correct 50% of what he writes. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Okay not LMTU, but know that in a good writers hands bad spelling and bad English can be a work of art. A paragraph of sentences without verbs is not a work of art. The second paragraph is just bearable in run-on form, but doesn't paint a pretty picture, either. At least, not for me. Quote
Rogie Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 An account of a frenzied encounter in a shower has earned US writer David Guterson the annual Bad Sex In Fiction Award. He beat the likes of Stephen King with a scene from his novel Ed King, a modern version of the fable of Oedipus. The offending passage in the book is introduced as "the part where a mother has sex with her son". On hearing of his win, Guterson said: "Oedipus practically invented bad sex, so I'm not in the least bit surprised." Ed King, his fifth novel, takes the Sophoclean tragedy Oedipus Rex (the title is a pun on the original) and transports it to late 20th Century Seattle. The story revolves around a baby boy who is given up for adoption and goes on to become one of the world's most powerful men, killing his father and sleeping with his mother in the process. Branded a "sweaty-palmed narrative" by the Washington Post, the novel contains several pages of explicit exposition. One goes into exhaustive detail about an erotic massage, where the protagonist "massaged, kneaded, stretched, rubbed, pinched, flicked, feathered, licked, kissed, and gently bit her shoulders". But judges said they were finally swayed by a passage that begins: "Ed stood with his hands at the back of his head, like someone just arrested, while she abused him with a bar of soap." The scene concludes: "Then they rinsed, dried, dressed, and went to an expensive restaurant for lunch." Reviewing the novel in the Express, David Robson argued that "Guterson's descriptions of hyperactive incest are absolutely unbearable and not in a good way". http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-16056986 And how about this from last year's Booker Prize winner Howard Jacobson's The Finkler question: "Her lips, too, were scalloped like the hem of a lace undergarment and seemed to move sideways rather than up and down" But was she capable of 'good sex' I wonder . . . Quote
ChristianPFC Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 So far, I only knew "beat the monkey". I can't think of any German expressions verb-article-noun at the moment. Quote
KhorTose Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 A paragraph of sentences without verbs is not a work of art. The second paragraph is just bearable in run-on form, but doesn't paint a pretty picture, either. At least, not for me. Well, all I can say is the author I quote has won every literary award thats out there. Tell me did you like the movies "No country for old men" or "The Road". Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 Well, all I can say is the author I quote has won every literary award thats out there. Tell me did you like the movies "No country for old men" or "The Road". I don't give a damn about anybody's awards or achievements. If you feel this way about the authors, I don't know how you can compare their writing to LMTU. At least the run-on sentence in the second excerpt does not contain misplaced commas or other bad punctuation. Art is interpretive; it has different meanings for different people, which is why it is art. For me, the structure needs to be familiar or I can't enjoy it regardless of the authors' awards or literary achievements. Also, books and movies are two very different things. I would hope the dialogue would have a verb now and then, and the actors will take a breath in between lines. Seeing the movie would not change my opinion about the writing. Quote
