Guest Eros Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Tonight August 12 is thong night at Eros boy Bar Come check out the cute boys in Eros in sunee plazaa Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Would you be kind enough to explain why you advertised this, but when we arrived at the bar it was closed? Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Would you be kind enough to explain why you advertised this, but when we arrived at the bar it was closed? Sorry Gaybutton, when they saw you coming in that thong, they closed the doors and pretended no one was there. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 But, hey, I was in Bangkok getting ready for the thong night and I thought I'd wear my black socks as not to offend the white socks friends you have. However, when I went downstairs my hotel, a group of cute Singaporeans took me with them to DJ station. Quote
Bob Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I was hoping for better photos than these. Lol. Wishful thinking. What you should be hoping for (should GB and Michael truly join in the thong festivities) is that the bars will strictly enforce their "no camera" policies. Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 It's probably a good thing the bar was closed. With Michael and I in thongs, the audience would probably have been unable to resist the urge to masturbate. Seriously, though, I think we're entitled to an answer. This was advertised, but the bar was closed. That's not exactly the way I would choose to gain customer loyalty. For whatever reason the bar was closed, Eros ought to have posted a message to that effect so customers could avoid making their way to the bar for nothing. If he has time to post ads, then I think he also should make time to notify people if it's not going to happen. It's been 24 hours now. So far no apology, no explanation, no nothing. And I don't think I'm out of line for wanting to know why. I think if a venue uses these boards to advertise and attract customers, but then doesn't deliver on what is promised, then we're at least entitled to an explanation - in a timely manner. 24 hours later and still no explanation is not my idea of a timely manner. Quote
Bob Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 ...So far no apology, no explanation, no nothing... Geez, would you like some cheese with that whine??? Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Geez, would you like some cheese with that whine??? Limburger. You can joke about it if that makes you happy, but that doesn't change the fact that the bar owner advertised, didn't deliver, and hasn't bothered to explain. Oddly enough, I don't like that. I doubt very many people who might have made a special trip or altered other plans would appreciate it any more than I do. It's not the fact the bar was closed that bothers me. It's the lack of consideration for customers. Quote
Guest luvthai Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I am guessing that the bar owner found himself with out staff (as they went to Mor-Lam) and had no chlice but to remain close. Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I am guessing That's my point. You have to guess what happened and why the bar was closed. Maybe you're right about why and maybe you're not. Plenty of other bars were open and plenty of boys were working in those bars as usual. As I said, if the bar owner has time to advertise, then as a courtesy to his customers how much effort would it have taken for him to post a message saying the bar is closed? How much effort would it have taken for him to at least have placed a note on the door of the bar? I think as a bar owner that's exactly what he should have done. To me, failure to do anything at all and letting this amount of time go by without so much as a single explanatory post on any of the boards is a slap in the face to his customers. For me, it's between a 30 to 40 minute trek just getting to Sunee Plaza, not to mention another trek to return home, fighting traffic all the way and not always being able to find a nearby place to park. If I had gone to Sunee Plaza for the sole purpose of going to this bar because of the ad, and then found it closed, I would not have been happy. I don't think anyone else would have been happy either. If he can't live up to what he advertises, then he either shouldn't advertise or should at least provide an explanation. Again, the fact the bar was closed is not the issue I'm making. Many other bars were open. It's the lack of response, which to me is a tacit "I don't care" attitude - that's what bothers me. If it turns out that something happened to him that caused him to be unable to open the bar or unable to post an explanation, that's one thing. But if he was physically able to take a minute to post an explanatory message, that's what he should have done, and certainly by now. But at the time of this post there is still nothing. I think it's well known that I strongly support Thailand's gay venues, but it's a little difficult for me to support a bar owner who can't be bothered to let us know why he had time to advertise, didn't do what he said he's going to do, and hasn't explained. That's the wrong way to treat customers. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 That's the wrong way to treat customers. I'm totally with GB on this one. In the longer scheme of things, the bar owner may feel no harm's been done. But there's an element of "Screw the punters" when you take the trouble to advertise something on many sites and then less than 18 hours later it doesn't happen. Tourists may not remember, but locals will. An explanation is the least the owner should provide. Free drinks as an apology would also help Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Tourists may not remember, but locals will. Another little point: If I remember correctly, you live in Bangkok. Suppose a Pattaya venue places an ad and because of the ad you came from Bangkok to Pattaya - only to find the venue closed and no explanation whatsoever. When would be the next time you respond to one of their ads? When would be the next time you would ever set foot in that venue at all? Quote
Guest Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Whilst clearly not affected personally, I'm entirely with GB on the principle of this too. However, if the business or owner has had some unforeseen disaster, perhaps it may not be possible to write an explanation and the required apology for a few days. Quote
Guest Eros Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 The mix up on August 12 was my mistake. On Teusdays and Fridays is thong night and I advertised it. At the moment I am not in Pattaya and did not realize that August the 12 was the Queens Birthday. The staff wisely closed the bar out of respect for her Majesty the Queen. I apologize for my mistake. Any one who went to the bar for this event and found the bar closed, please send me a PM. Thanks for your understanding. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 The mix up on August 12 was my mistake. On Teusdays and Fridays is thong night and I advertised it. At the moment I am not in Pattaya and did not realize that August the 12 was the Queens Birthday. The staff wisely closed the bar out of respect for her Majesty the Queen. I apologize for my mistake. Any one who went to the bar for this event and found the bar closed, please send me a PM. Thanks for your understanding. Thanks for posting this. It really does show what a good businessman you are. Best of luck with the bar and keep the great things coming! Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 The staff wisely closed the bar out of respect for her Majesty the Queen. For the record, there was no requirement for bars to close that night. None were even asked to close. All the bars were allowed to open and serve alcohol. Some bars voluntarily chose to close - the Mor Lam concert also took place that night. YaYa bar had posted a notice on the boards that his bar would be closed. I don't understand why you did not do the same since you had advertised for that night or why you waited until nearly a week later to respond to the complaints. I agree with Michael that it is good business practice to offer some sort of compensation to those who went to your bar in response to your ad, which I'm guessing is the reason why you asked for a PM from people who went, but in my opinion that in itself does not excuse the fact that nearly a week went by before saying anything about it. That aspect of it is not my idea of good business practice. My feeling is it would have been much better business practice to, on the same day, have posted something about it on the boards on which you advertised and also to have taken the time to go over to your bar and placed some sort of explanatory notice on the bar door so people who went would at least have understood why this happened. However, I'm one of the people who tried to go to your bar that night and I have sent you the PM you requested. Quote
PattayaMale Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 For the record, there was no requirement for bars to close that night. None were even asked to close. All the bars were allowed to open and serve alcohol. Some bars voluntarily chose to close - the Mor Lam concert also took place that night. YaYa bar had posted a notice on the boards that his bar would be closed. I don't understand why you did not do the same since you had advertised for that night or why you waited until nearly a week later to respond to the complaints. I agree with Michael that it is good business practice to offer some sort of compensation to those who went to your bar in response to your ad, which I'm guessing is the reason why you asked for a PM from people who went, but in my opinion that in itself does not excuse the fact that nearly a week went by before saying anything about it. That aspect of it is not my idea of good business practice. My feeling is it would have been much better business practice to, on the same day, have posted something about it on the boards on which you advertised and also to have taken the time to go over to your bar and placed some sort of explanatory notice on the bar door so people who went would at least have understood why this happened. However, I'm one of the people who tried to go to your bar that night and I have sent you the PM you requested. Sometimes, things happen beyond the control of the owner. Thankfully, there are many other options in the area if it happens. There is a very popular bar in the same area that had a big problem opening during this same time period because no staff showed up after celebrating a birthday the night before. Fortunately, it was a beer bar so only needed to get in 1 waiter/bartender. If it would have been a gogo bar it would have been so much more difficult. So, Eros gave us an explanation, apologized, and that should end the saga. IMHO Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 So, Eros gave us an explanation, apologized, and that should end the saga. IMHO I totally agree! For some, the smallest thing gets them all riled up. If going to a bar and it was closed (yet others were open) was the worst thing to happen on that night, hell, I know many in USA who would trade places in a heartbeat. I can't say I am not guilty of letting the little things get to me. Today, I went to Paragon California Wow and they require a small lock to go on the lockers (not the ones every other place in Thailand uses). It costs 160 baht. Not a big deal right? I was livid. So, I do know how little things upset someone. Eros is not in Thailand. He said so. He apologized. That should be it. Of course, this is just my logical humble opinion. Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 Eros is not in Thailand. He said so. No, he didn't. He said he is not in Pattaya. That doesn't mean he's not in Thailand. It also doesn't mean he was not in Pattaya the night this happened. But no matter where he was, for me the issue is not the fact the bar was closed. That could have happened for any number of reasons. And I don't agree that it's a "little thing" that ought to be water under the bridge and forgotten. My problem with this is not that the bar was closed. My problem is the lack of response afterward. I'm sorry, but when people respond to an ad, but the venue is closed and no explanation comes in a timely manner, maybe it's just a little insignificant thing to you, but to me it's no little thing and if he expects people to be attracted to his bar via ads in the future, then it also isn't a little thing for him. And I repeat - if you had come down from Bangkok for the purpose of going to this bar in response to the ad, I don't think you'd be calling it a little thing either. I'm sorry to keep harping on this, but I really do think if a venue posts an ad and then doesn't live up to it, then that venue needs to explain why and needs to do that right away, not only for the sake of customer service, but for the sake of his own credibility. By the way, according to his current ads, there will be another "thong night" tomorrow (Friday). I plan to be there. I have a feeling this time the bar will be open . . . Quote
PattayaMale Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 "I'm sorry to keep harping on this,...."quote by Gaybutton. Ok, apology accepted. Just don't do it again!! Quote
Bob Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 And I don't agree that it's a "little thing" that ought to be water under the bridge and forgotten. You, of course, are correct. A man in Pattaya goes to a bar, planning on an exciting night out, and it's CLOSED! And then the owner of the bar doesn't respond fast enough to the righteous indignation of the victim of this terrible event. I can't even imagine how traumatic this must have been for you. You have my deepest sympathy. Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 You, of course, are correct. Well, at least we agree on that part . . . Quote
Guest Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 The reply in post 50 is all that's required to close the matter, IMHO. Quote
Guest buckeroo2 Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 The reply in post 50 is all that's required to close the matter, IMHO. Possible reasons for the closure have been offered, not good enough - apologies have been offered - not good enough - maybe someone can set up shop and start dispensing a "chill pill" - and if anyone specifically drove 2 hours from action packed BKK to go to a thong show in Sunee Plaza - well, I am at a loss for words - but I am sure that will not be an affliction that affects everyone on this subject. Quote
