Obsessions Night Club Pattaya

[TotallyOz]

Love the 2nd gal! Very sexy!

[Guest ChaseLB]

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[Guest ChaseLB]

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[Guest ChaseLB]

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[Guest ChaseLB]

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[Guest fountainhall]

SInce it definitely is "different strokes for different folks", perhaps someone could start up a thread with guys from some of the host bars or gogo bars. It would make a refreshing change for those not into the ladyboy scene.

[Guest thaiworthy]

SInce it definitely is "different strokes for different folks", perhaps someone could start up a thread with guys from some of the host bars or gogo bars. It would make a refreshing change for those not into the ladyboy scene.

 

I'll second that motion.

[TotallyOz]

SInce it definitely is "different strokes for different folks", perhaps someone could start up a thread with guys from some of the host bars or gogo bars. It would make a refreshing change for those not into the ladyboy scene.

 

I agree. I wish others would start similar threads with photos of the boys. But, few people have been as generous as ChaseLB in sharing.

 

I notice this on the Ladyboy boards. The guys that frequent them are happy to share photos, stories, etc. That is not true with the boards for people looking for guys. I don't know the difference. But, I belong to 4 ladyboy forums and all are the same. The guys share, post photos and promote the bars and gals they like.

 

I rarely, if ever, see guys doing the same thing with the male companions.

 

Certainly, this thread goes to show how great it would be if they did.

[Guest anonone]

I am not sure, but perhaps the ladyboys are a bit more willing to have their picture taken in the first place.

 

I would love to see a similar thread showcasing the stunning guys at the various host and gogo bars as they are definitely more my style than the ladyboys. But in my numerous visits, I don't have any pictures to share. I have heard it is very bad form to try and take photos inside a gogo bar. I can't recall ever taking pictures in a host bar either. Didn't cross my mind to take out the camera, let alone see if anyone would object.

 

I have some photos of a Thai friend that I spend some time with, but I am not about to post his photo on here without checking with him first. Not sure he would be keen on the idea. Probably more appropriate on the "boyfriend" thread, even though we are not quite that committed (yet?)

 

To Michael's earlier comment, it certainly looks like they are having a lot of fun at the ladyboy bar. It appears more lively than any of the gay gogo bars I have been in.

 

It has piqued my interest a bit in checking out a ladyboy bar. Not sure I would be interested in taking one off, but might be a fun place to spend some time and play around.

[Guest fountainhall]

It has piqued my interest a bit in checking out a ladyboy bar. Not sure I would be interested in taking one off, but might be a fun place to spend some time and play around.

I once went to one in Bangkok. The 'girls' were certainly beautiful and went out of their way to make the experience 'fun'. But 'been there, done that.' I'm not interested in returning. Its just not my scene.

 

Like anonone, I don't take out my camera at the gay bars and am pretty sure it's not permitted. Since this Board has now permitted a ton of ladyboy pics from just one bar on this thread - a bar with its own website, then surely the door is now thrown open for all other bar owners to post pics of their boys in the forums? After all, with all respect to Chase LB and other ladyboy admirers, isn't 85 or more pics overdoing things more than slightly? I don't think even Michael's amazing bicycle trip which had readers enthralled for many days had that many pics!

[Guest ChaseLB]

Guys - Great feedback. Please note that I don't wish to offend anyone. I can A. stop posting pictures, B. post less or C. just continue in the same way.

 

Can we try and have a vote A, B or C.

 

Thanks

[Guest fountainhall]

Can we try and have a vote A, B or C.

Great idea for a thread and some great photos. But I do think there should be a limit. After all, this is not a ladyboy site.

 

So, sorry to be a spoilsport, but I vote A.

[Guest thaiworthy]

I do admire and respect ladyboys, but the posting of these sexy photos ad nauseum on a gay man's website seems just a little incongruous, especially when it's nearly the most active thread on the board. They are not offensive, but I guess I'm a spoilsport, too. I vote A as well.

[Guest jomtien]

I don't see the need for a vote.

 

Why click on the thread at all if you don't want to see the pictures?

 

Seems easy enough to me!

[TotallyOz]

Guys, the site is gay Thailand. Ladyboys are gay. Old gay men who hire younger guys are gay. Drag queens are gay. Boys who work in gogo bars are mostly gay. I don't see why anyone would not want the thread to continue. If you don't like it, don't look at it. I like it. I also know the poster is going out of his way to bring the photos to us.

 

Personally, I don't like guys over 30. But, if a tread existed that showed lots of photos of these guys, I would say this was not the place, I'd just ignore the thread.

 

I am not trying to be a dick, but I think we are more inclusive on this site and I know I am in my own life to consider anyone who says they are gay, or likes gay sex, or is even considering it, or is even friendly to those that are gay to be a part our community.

 

But, again, that is just IMHO.

[Guest thaiworthy]

I don't see the need for a vote.

I don't either, but the OP requested it. I see no problem with responding to his query with an honest opinion.

 

Free speech is sacred. I can't imagine a moderator upholding a vote that denies a poster his right to post pictures, whether they are popular or not. If the topic is not limited to only that discussion, then I would also like to mention some other points:

 

Ladyboys are gay.

I must admit that some gays' fascination of ladyboys is an enigma to me. I probably have a very narrow point-of-view, overshadowed by my own struggle to identify myself as gay within the natural view of society in my own homeland. I have always defined gay sex as that of an attraction to the same sex. Guys who look more like gals do not look like the same sex to me. (I am not excited by big boobs, and that's just me, but that alone doesn't make me gay.) Therefore, I don't regard ladyboys as gay. By all outward indications, they identify with women more than men, don't they? They are also attracted to men, aren't they? So how can they be regarded as gay? I think of ladyboys in Thailand as a microcosm of its own. I can't explain them since I don't identify with the female gender and mebbe that is short-sightedness on my part. Ladyboys are a part of the gay world, yes, but in Thailand especially it seems, identifying a male as gay or straight almost seems like a fruitless effort.

 

For example, I have no notion of my boyfriend's sex life before I met him, but I have no reason to believe he is anything but gay. I once asked him if he was gay or straight. A few times he said he was gay, a few times he responded with "I don't know." One time he said "I like girls little bit." I have come to the conclusion that Thai culture does not dictate either inclination. They don't identify themselves in the same way we Westerners do. What is meant by "gay" in Thailand may not be shared by the rest of the world. Ladyboys are different and for some unknown reason, things that appear different somehow also become controversial.

 

Why click on the thread at all if you don't want to see the pictures?

I do think this discussion is a good thing. It broadens my perspective to embrace a part of the gay world in Thailand I don't think much about. Change is good even if I don't think so at any given moment. My attitude changes over time, but right now it's pretty provincial. This is why I click this topic-- to read and contribute to what is essentially an important part of life in Thailand, even if I am not particularly interested in looking at all the pretty pictures.

 

Many ladyboys do command a good power in the English language. They are eager to assist in many ways. In the past, they have been very helpful in translating things to my boyfriend that I would not have been able to do as easily otherwise. I think I might try this Obsessions Bar the next time I need to communicate something important to the boyfriend and I'm actually in town. My emails have been getting pretty long and therefore expensive. This has got to be cheaper than the translation services I'm using now!

[Gaybutton]

But I do think there should be a limit. After all, this is not a ladyboy site.

While this is not a lady-boy site, since when do lady-boys and gay fail to fit under the same umbrella?

 

I see no reason for a vote and I see no reason why ChaseLB shouldn't be able to post all the photos he wants. I wish I knew how he managed to get them all. It's not as if he's posting these photos on multiple threads. He's posting only on this thread.

 

I disagree with your position. While you might feel it's been enough, I certainly do not. I happen to like these photos and I hope ChaseLB has loads more to post.

 

If this board ends up preventing him from continuing to post these photos, he's perfectly welcome to post all he wants on my board. After all, why not give Undaunted a little thrill . . . ?

 

I don't understand why people who object don't simply bypass this thread and let those of us who enjoy these photos continue to enjoy them. Since nobody is forcing anyone to view this thread, given that those who don't like it already know what is going to appear here, why do they continue viewing this thread and then try to tell us there ought to be a limit. Why?

[Guest fountainhall]

those who don't like it already know what is going to appear here, , why do they continue viewing this thread and then try to tell us there ought to be a limit. Why?

Why? Why not?

 

For the very simple reason this is a discussion Board. Posters have a variety of different views and many topics attract a variety of opinion. I don't see why you need to get worked up just because I have stated one view. You and Michael - and also i reckon Jomtien - have made yours perfectly clear, I suggest. Are others not permitted to air opposing views?

[Bob]

I see no reason for a vote and I see no reason why ChaseLB shouldn't be able to post all the photos he wants.

 

I see no basis to question if there is or isn't a need for a vote, it was ChaseLB himself who added the vote comments. That's his right (I'm guessing he's just trying to gauge how many are into the ladybody pics) I suppose.

 

If this board ends up preventing him from continuing to post these photos.....

 

I don't understand why you'd even say that (unless I missed something in the thread where somebody said that he might be prevented from posting the ladyboy photos). A few people (including myself hereafter) saying they aren't into ladyboys is just a statement of personal opinion (which I think the OP was effectively requesting in the first place) and hardly a threat of preventing the OP from continuing.

 

I have almost no interest in ladyboys (not sure why, just the way it is) but I can appreciate that some guys are into that sort of thing. And, while I won't be studying the pics, I don't have an issue so long as a significant portion of the website doesn't turn in that direction (and, if it does, that's fine, I'll then just vote with my feet).

 

On another board (not sure which one) there very recently was a thread that touched on ladyboys and some poster made a comment about "alter boys." While there's no doubt given the context the poster simply doesn't spell too well (it's "altar"), I concluded it was the perfect Freudian slip....hehe.

 

Carry on.

[Gaybutton]

Are others not permitted to air opposing views?

Where did I say, or even imply, any such thing?

 

 

I don't understand why you'd even say that

I said that because some people are essentially saying "enough already" with these photos. I'm saying if the board administration ever agrees, ChaseLB would still have a board on which to post them if he so chooses. I did not say anything indicates the administrators of this board intends to set a limit. I'm simply making it clear that I would not set such a limit.

[Guest anonone]

Great to see many differing posters commenting here. A lively discussion is always welcome to me.

 

I barely skim the pictures, as the ladyboys are not my thing, but I appreciate others have an interest. I also have no desire to "bypass" this thread, as I take any opportunity to learn more about Thailand and all its wonders. I am also open enough to want to stop by this place "Obsessions" and see what all the fuss is about. Certainly looks like a fun place to spend an hour or two.

 

I will have to mention it to my Thai friend and see if he would like to go. He certainly enjoys the ladyboy portion of the gay "shows", so I bet he would be game...perhaps even eager.

 

I don't think anyone here is overly offended by the posting of the pictures. I am still curious about the many pictures available of the ladyboys but hardly any of the gay guys. Even on gay bar's websites (host and gogo), there seems to be a real reluctance of the guys to be posted. There was a thread on another forum about taking pictures of the guys back in the room, but I can't imagine anyone posting them on an open forum. (Which I agree with wholeheartedly...it would be a shitty thing to do).

 

Guess there is still a pretty strong stigma about gay (or at least money boy) in our Thai paradise. Guess it does not apply to the ladyboys...?

 

Anyone with illuminating thoughts on this ?

[Guest fountainhall]

With the various changes that have been made to the site, some posters may not be aware that there is now a sub-divided Thailand section titled "Thailand Businesses /Establishments" in which Scooby has put details of a lot of gay establishments under specific city/town headings. For example, there is a Gay Pattaya thread which already has several bars with photos of their sraff - Eros and Happy Place being two.

 

So, surely the right place for a lengthy series of posts about a one specific bar in Pattaya should be posted under "Pattaya" and not in the general Thailand forum? Then, any poster can insert as many pics as he wishes as it has a very specific reference? The value of that thread is that there are not so many posts and many are pinned. So the pics will be up there for all those who wish to see them for a much longer period of time.

 

I realise it's not always possible to differentiate between general and specific. But in this case, I think it is perfectly clear.

[Gaybutton]

in this case, I think it is perfectly clear.

I disagree with you about that too. It isn't clear to me at all. On that thread, every post there are ads for those venues and every one of them were posted by Scooby.

 

On this thread, ChaseLB's photos are sharing personal photos he made and I don't see anything that constitutes an ad.

 

I would agree with you if it turns out that ChaseLB owns Obsessions or is financially connected with Obsessions, but I see nothing to indicate he is doing anything other than posting personal photos.

 

The one thing I question is the fact that most bars prohibit photography inside the bar, but ChaseLB does seem to have a limitless supply. While I'm glad he's posting these photos, I still don't understand how he got them.

[Guest fountainhall]

On that thread, every post there are ads for those venues and every one of them were posted by Scooby.

 

On this thread, ChaseLB's photos are sharing personal photos he made and I don't see anything that constitutes an ad.

What does it matter if it is an ad or photos or a website - or whether it has been posted by the establishment concerned, this site's administrator or an individual poster? They are still photos pertinent to a specific establishment. If they are not to be posted against that establishment under Gay Pattaya - or in a new thread in that sub-forum drawing attention to such an establishment, then what is the point of having the "Thailand Businesses/Establishments" sub-forums? None, as far as I can see.

 

You may say that these are not commercial photos. Excellent though the quality is, I can see no problem whatever with their being posted in the sub-forum. Indeed, in that sub-forum they will stay visible a great deal longer than the average thread on the main Board which tends to disappear and not be looked at after a few weeks.

 

While I'm glad he's posting these photos, I still don't understand how he got them

At the bar I visited in Bangkok, there certainly were 30 - 40 lovelies in attendance. Since the OP clearly has more photos, are these all from the ladyboys at Obsessions Bar? I assume it must either be quite a large bar (although the group photo on its website displays only 18 ladies) or the photos have been taken over a period of time (which in no way detracts from their validity, I should add).

[Gaybutton]

What does it matter if it is an ad

I think it matters because when the only posts on that sub-forum are ads, then personal photos would be entirely out of place. By that logic, if I go into a Pattaya go-go bar, somehow get permission to take as many photos of the boys as I wish, name the bar, and then post those photos on this forum, you're going to say the photos should be on that sub-forum instead?

 

How many such photos will I get to post on this forum before you start insisting they don't belong here?