Obsessions Night Club Pattaya

[kokopelli]

Koko, I don't know if this will help: you can try logging out first and read this thread as a guest. I just tried it myself and the photos did not show up. They appear as links with file names instead of the actual pictures. I don't know why it appears that way, but perhaps that way you can read the thread without having to see the suggestive pictures.

 

Thanks for suggestion. Will do so. I have a very slow internet connection and it takes a lot of time to wade through the photos to get to the latest posts.

[Gaybutton]

I am expressing my opinion, the same as you and everyone else.

Wonderful. Keep right on viewing a thread you dislike and keep telling us all about your opinion. After all, nobody had any idea what your opinion was. Now we know.

[Guest fountainhall]

Way overboard? According to who, you?

 

. . . I, for one, like this thread and I hope he posts as many photos as he's got.

Well, I am delighted for GB that he likes the pics and wants more. But a number of posters have made it abundantly clear that they think this thread has gone way overboard. Why are they wrong, GB, but you are right? Free speech? Can’t others make their opposing views as clear as you make yours, if they so wish?

 

I have made some points clear in earlier posts. I’d now like to make another two.

 

1. Contrary to what some may like to believe, this is not a photo site. It's a discussion forum. Isn't that what is written very clearly more than once at the top of this and other pages - "Forum"?

 

And isn’t this what the Message Center Policies say very clearly?

 

The Gay Thailand Message Center forums are provided as a venue for the discussion and exchange of information about Thailand and other related issues. It is a place to submit queries and share experiences, information, concerns, news and views, and maybe even a little humor for the benefit of members.

OK, some photos are always a great idea to illustrate points being made on a post and for exchange of information. But pouring pics with absolutely no discussion does not accord with the Message Board policies, in my view. GB and others seem to disagree.

 

2. Let’s remember that ChaseLB himself proposed a vote. Some posters pooh-poohed the idea as saying a vote is not necessary. Are they suggesting the OP was doing something wrong in asking for a vote? He started the thread and he can stop it if he so decides (unless the Moderators or owners do it for him).

 

Let’s also remember that three posters have voted very definitely against further flooding of pics – myself, Kokopelli and thaiworthy. Since the request for a vote was made, GB and TMax have made it clear they are definitely pro. Several others have rather sat on the fence by, in my opinion, not giving a definite vote. So that’s 3 ‘against’ and 2 ‘for’. That’s pretty clear in my book!

 

Now I grant you Michael was initially very pro, and he has made one pro contribution since the call for a vote. Assuming that he remains pro, then posters are virtually split down the middle. So it is quite wrong, in my view, for GB to suggest that just because HE likes these pics, other are wrong and the OP should continue posting. GB has every right to make his views known. But I think I am right in saying he has no majority.

 

Besides, there must be endless ladyboy sites out there. Why should this "Forum" (remember, that’s what this is?) be flooded with ladyboy pics, with almost all of the posts having no accompanying text, discussion, dialogue or viewpoint? It's just like my private email box being hit by spam, 99.99% of which is about sex in one way or another, cheap drugs or extortion schemes. In my view, with way over 150 pics by now and with merely the barest hint of discussion, dialogue or comments by the OP, I see a danger that the thread is being subjected to – and I apologise in advance to the OP, but I have to say this – spamming.

 

Enough is enough! I for one call upon the moderators to discuss the issue amongst themselves and make a ruling. I know we’ll all respect their decision whether or not it’s what we would like as individuals. But at least we can bring an end to the controversy.

 

PS: Just out of interest, I looked up "internet forum" on wikipedia. This is what it says:

 

An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages

As suggested earlier by another poster, these photos would be great on a blog site. A few are great on a discussion forum. 150, with goodness knows how many more to come, is vastly too many - in my view.

 

PPS: Back to the Message Centre Policies. The posting of information about “go-go and host work” is pretty clear –

 

All GoGo and Host work-related information is exempt provided the guy, with intent, has made that information publicly available or has given tacit approval for such information to be made available.

I am not aware that these photos are publicly available elsewhere. The moderators should be informed, I suggest, that the ladyboys in the photos above have given their express permission for them to be posted.

[Guest jomtien]

I for one call upon the moderators to discuss the issue amongst themselves and make a ruling.

 

I, for one, won't discuss it. It is 1 thread. You continually visit it knowing you won't like it. Why do that to yourself?

[TotallyOz]

I like the photos. I appreciate the poster contributing. I enjoy looking at it each day. I asked a few questions that were not answered. No one has to respond to me. I think the questions I asked were "dodged". Thus, is life.

 

But, for those that don't like the photos, the poster has been very considerate and posted all in one thread. I see zero harm in it. I think it is a great thread. But, that is just my opinion.

[Guest fountainhall]

I, for one, won't discuss it. It is 1 thread. You continually visit it knowing you won't like it. Why do that to yourself?

Incorrect! I do not visit this thread continually - unless you mean a first visit after 9 days absence is "continually"! I have been perfectly happy avoiding it until today when I received a PM from another member specifically referring to it. You may wish to retract that statement.

 

Are you not a moderator? If so, you presumably accept that message centre policies are not being broken? Have you discussed that with your colleagues? (If you are not a moderator, then I apologise in advance).

[TotallyOz]

IMHO, I wish every member would post photos like these. If it were done for all the bars, I'd be thrilled. This is only the first thread like this. I wish there were 100 others. It lets readers from abroad see what is happening in the bar and perhaps see a photo of someone they want to meet.

 

I had a very "near and dear friend, some say a saint" that ran an escort service in NYC many years ago. The majority of calls came from people who had seen a photo online and wanted to book that individual Many even requested the same outfit. For this thread, I can see many customers who have never visited the bar, giving it a try. That is a good thing for the bar and a good thing for the gals IMHO.

 

I didn't see any rules being broken as I think there is a great deal of discussion in this thread. Perhaps not as much from the OP as we want but the rest of us seem to really relish in the thread.

[Guest thaiworthy]

I'm with Fountainhall, but the issue is free speech I think, and not the fact that Michael and GB like ladyboys. It is for this issue alone that I respect their wishes and post my comments with a view to self-expression. I just quickly scan the photos to get to the discussion, like the one here. The pictures don't bother me that much, really.

 

But I don't understand why ChaseLB puts up these photos every single day. Without discussion, what is the point? The suggestive poses, the bananas, am I supposed to get excited? Why does ChaseLB want me to be aroused by pictures of ladyboys? Pardon me for asking, but isn't this reverse discrimination to some degree? 150 ladyboys, all from one bar? Is there a ladyboy convention in town?

 

Don't misunderstand me, I am not in favor of censorship or imposing limits of any kind. I would like the know the point of it all. Who are these people? Where do they come from? Do they speak any English? Are they looking for boyfriends? Or are they just poster girls for Obsessions Night Club. I had no idea there were this many ladyboys in all of Pattaya, quite frankly.

 

Sooner or later, Chase may run out of ladyboys or bananas, whichever comes first. I have never seen a go-go boy suggestively quaffing said banana. I wouldn't mind looking at something like that, but don't think real men do the banana thing.

 

But this is Thailand. There is always something new every day.

[Guest fountainhall]

It lets readers from abroad . . . perhaps see a photo of someone they want to meet

Michael, with all due respect, that is a rather pie-in-the-sky comment! You have zero idea exactly when these photos were taken or if these ladyboys still actually work in the bar! After all, we all know the turnover in the bar business. You don't even know if they have consented to have their photos exhibited on this Board! All this information and more the OP keeps to himself. Does he live in Thailand and visit regularly? Does he live overseas? If so, when were the photos actually taken? Are they up to date? With that information on hand, your comment might make a great deal more sense.

 

In any case, that is surely a job for the owner of Obsessions and his ladyboys on their own particular website. The website's already been posted, I believe - I just looked it up on google and think this is it

 

http://www.penthousehotel.com/obsessions_pattaya/index.html

 

- so anyone can view it to their heart's content*. Is the gaythailand.com discussion forum now to be opened up so that it may eventually become a photo site for all the bars and massage parlours in Thailand? As others have said, a few photos of some nice guys would be great. I have nothing whatever against some ladyboy pics being posted. But 150 down and no end in sight from just one poster and one bar? This, as I have suggested - and in the view of some other posters - is way over the top!

 

* Interestingly, I note when you click on "Ladyboy Star Gallery 1", my server says that site can not be found! I'm not sure if this is the case elsewhere. But if it is, then effectively this thread is doing what Obsessions management should be doing on its own website!

[Gaybutton]

I can't remember the last time I saw a problem, or rather "non-problem" so incredibly simple to solve. Some of us enjoy these pics and some don't. You certainly know by now that ChaseLB is going to post more if he has them.

 

If you're among those who don't like the pics, just bypass this thread. What's the hard part?

[Bob]

If you're among those who don't like the pics, just bypass this thread. What's the hard part?

 

The only annoyance for me is how slow the photos load (and, frankly, I'm not trying to look at the photos (as I'm not into ladyboys at all, but rather trying to follow the discussion). But I also simply don't get it - if you're not into the topic, then simply don't click on the thread (everybody that's had a complaint, however mild, is an intelligent person who knows how to click or not click a mouse!).

 

At the risk of irritating some - which isn't my intention - the mild complaints and the other thread about whether ladyboys are "gay" seem to me to evidence just a wee bit of intoleration for the preferences of others. As a group that's been historically thumped by societies for being different, one would think that we would exhibit the same toleration levels for others that we've clamored for societies to give to us. Just my thought.

 

And, while I'm on my mild rant (worth, of course, exactly what you're paying for it), most of us who are over 30 or so (and, in GB's case, that's in dog years!), should have learned from our life experiences (let alone what we've seen in Thailand) that "gay" isn't a label or classification that's easily applied (and, of course, means different things to different people). Whether somebody is 5% or 40% or 80% "gay" is a bit irrelevant to me; besides, I've never understood how we at times try to describe somebody because of behavior that occurs during about 5% of the time they're awake.

 

Okay, have at me....haha.

[Guest fountainhall]

the mild complaints and the other thread about whether ladyboys are "gay" seem to me to evidence just a wee bit of intoleration for the preferences of others.

If you think that's at the heart of the points I've put forward, I think you must have had problems opening the full thread because of the time it takes to open up these photos! I have absolutely zero intolerance re ladyboys whatever. Heck, I've been to a ladyboy bar in Bangkok for a fun evening - as posted on another thread! And on my first holiday to Bangkok more than 30 years ago, I spent a large part of a day with one who was a lot of fun and showed me much of Bangkok. My issues are totally separate, but they've been argued enough and I will not go over them again - no doubt to MIchael and GB's relief!

 

That said, though, I do find it interesting that no-one has bothered to answer most of the very specific questions I have raised over several posts! So on this topic, the bully pulpit rules. There is no intention of entering in to rational discussion and gentlemanly argument. The view of some posters is very clearly, "I want this. So I'm right because I'm right! 'Nuff said"

[kokopelli]

Wonderful. Keep right on viewing a thread you dislike and keep telling us all about your opinion. After all, nobody had any idea what your opinion was. Now we know.

 

Thank you for your permission for viewing this or any other thread, whether I like it or not. You have my permission to do the same and express your opinion, as always.

[Guest ChaseLB]

Just 3 pictures today. Still mixed feedback and I'm not really sure what to do.

[Gaybutton]

Still mixed feedback and I'm not really sure what to do.

I'd say unless the moderators or the board owner asks you to stop, then post all the photos you want. Again, some of us are really enjoying your photos and don't want you to stop. Those who don't like have the option of bypassing this thread.

[Guest fountainhall]

ChaseLB. I have a feeling that the discussion on this thread has been more or less exhausted. Before it is, I suggest it would be useful to other posters and site members if you could tell us just a little more about your photos and how you take them. For example, will you consider answering these questions?

 

1. Do you live in Thailand? If yes, no need to be specific about location.

2. If yes, is it fair to suggest you visit the bar at least once in every 2 or 3 months?

3. If you do not live in Thailand, how many times a year on average do you visit?

4. Were all the photos taken at one time

[Moses]

4. Were all the photos taken at one time – or over a period of, say, a year? More than a year?

 

just make right click and you will see something like

File change date and time: 2011:08:16 12:23:21

Image description: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA

Image input equipment manufacturer: OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.

Image input equipment model: uTough-8010

Software used: Microsoft Windows Photo Viewer 6.1.7600.16385

Exposure time: 0,0333333

F number: 3,9

Exposure program: 2

ISO speed rating: 160

Exposure bias: 0

Maximum lens aperture: 3,93

Metering mode: 5

Light source: 0

Flash: 25

Lens focal length: 5

Custom rendered: 0

Exposure mode: 0

White balance: 0

Digital zoom ratio: 1

Focal length in 35 mm film: 28

Scene capture type: 0

Gain control: 2

Contrast: 0

Saturation: 0

Sharpness: 0

 

as I saw all pics were taken in about 20 days...

[Guest fountainhall]

Thank you Moses. But you do not mention the dates the photos were taken. I assume they are recent. It would have been nice if the OP had provided that information. (I have an Apple Mac and so no right click!)

[TotallyOz]

Thank you Moses. But you do not mention the dates the photos were taken. I assume they are recent. It would have been nice if the OP had provided that information. (I have an Apple Mac and so no right click!)

 

Sorry sir, but you have an Apple Mac and you do have a right click! There are short cuts for all that on the mac. My Magic Mouse has a right click. My Pro has a trackpad and Right Click. You have to configure it in your preferences.

[Guest thaiworthy]

Thank you Moses. But you do not mention the dates the photos were taken. I assume they are recent. It would have been nice if the OP had provided that information. (I have an Apple Mac and so no right click!)

A right click is a control click on any Mac keyboard. However, when I control click on the photos, I do not get the info Moses said should appear. Instead, I get a submenu for opening, saving or copying the image.

[Guest fountainhall]

as I saw all pics were taken in about 20 days...

I have now managed to obtain most of the technical information - but not the date photos were taken.

[Guest fountainhall]

You continually visit it knowing you won't like it.

Incorrect! I do not visit this thread continually - unless you mean a first visit after 9 days absence is "continually" . . . You may wish to retract that statement.

I am still interested to find out jomtien's views on the use of "continually" and whether 9 days accords with the correct use of that word!

[TotallyOz]

I am still interested to find out jomtien's views on the use of "continually" and whether 9 days accords with the correct use of that word!

 

Not to speak for jomtien, but perhaps he meant "consistently" as opposed to "continually?"

 

For this tread to date:

ChaseLB has 31 posts

Fountainhall has 17

Michael has 11

Gaybutton has 11

Thaiworthy has 9

Kokopellia has 5

Others have 1 and 2

 

So if posts in this thread count as an indication of posters interest then the list above speaks for itself.

[Guest fountainhall]

Not to speak for jomtien, but perhaps he meant "consistently" as opposed to "continually?

Nice try, Michael, but it absolutely doesn't wash! "Visiting continually" is totally different from "Posting consistently" - in anyone's book! Besides, even "posting consistently" is also innacurate in this instance.

 

Perhaps jomtien will eventually speak for himself (but I thank you for trying on his behalf)!

[Guest jomtien]

I am still interested to find out jomtien's views on the use of "continually" and whether 9 days accords with the correct use of that word!

 

 

Nice to know you are still interested. Life without interest is meaningless. I am always happy to add interest to someone's life!