Pattaya "normal" hotels rules

[Guest Pierre22222]

I am going to Thailand this year for the first time, visiting Bangkok, Phuket and Pattaya.

I have been reading this forum for some time now, trying to get some information about what to do, where to go and where to stay and i thank the forum and its members for some quite good information, so far.

However, i am still e bit confused about hotels. I was thinking not to stay in "gay hotels" (whatever this means), but to stay in a "normal" hotel (whatever...), where, if i wanted to, i could bring some company for the night, no matter if the company was a boy, a girl or even a ladyboy. I mean a " i dont care who you sleep with, as long as he/she is no minor" ruled hotel.

I have read some posts about gay hotels, some other abour upscale hotels, how about mid range hotels (up to 1500 bahts), where you can have swimming pool and good breakfast? Is it easy to find hotels with that kind of policy?

 

Thank you for your information.

[Bob]

"Gay" hotels (which I would define as those which almost exclusively cater to gay people) are few and far between in Thailand. I reside in Chiangmai and, at the moment, I can only think of two of those places out of the hundreds/thousands of hotels and guesthouses available. There probably are a few more but, then again, I've never looked for or stayed in one of them.

 

Don't worry about the hotels....just pick the one you want. The "normal" hotel in Thailand doesn't care one way or the other that you're gay or that you bring a guest back (although a few hotels might charge extra if you've paid for a single and constantly treat it as a "double"). If you plan on bringing a guest back, then pay for a double up front and you should never have an issue anywhere.

[TotallyOz]

I agree with Bob.

 

If you go to Chiang Mai, PJ's Place is amazing and wonderful!

[Guest anonone]

The only thing I would add is there is a benefit for me to stay in a "gay" hotel for the added security in bringing back frequent guests. The places I stay insist on checking and holding the ID of the guest at the front desk. I use this as a second-check on myself that the person is over 18, not using someone else's ID, etc. It also would reduce the chances of anything major happening as they would be easily identified after a theft, etc.

 

I don't believe any of the "regular" hotels provide this type of service.

 

For now, I appreciate the peace of mind this provides me. After many more trips, perhaps not as important , but especially for a first time visitor it should be mentioned.

 

That said, have a great trip !

[Guest Geezer]

The only thing I would add is there is a benefit for me to stay in a "gay" hotel for the added security in bringing back frequent guests. The places I stay insist on checking and holding the ID of the guest at the front desk. I use this as a second-check on myself that the person is over 18, not using someone else's ID, etc. It also would reduce the chances of anything major happening as they would be easily identified after a theft, etc.

 

I don't believe any of the "regular" hotels provide this type of service.

 

 

When staying at a hotel which doesn’t keep the guest’s ID at the registration desk one can put the ID in a safe deposit box at the desk. The boy knows only you can retrieve the card from the box.

 

Of course you must accompany the lad to the desk after the tryst. I actually prefer that, as the lad cannot have a confederate in your room with a knife at your throat forcing you to phone the receptionist and say it is OK to return the ID.

[Rogie]

. . . I actually prefer that, as the lad cannot have a confederate in your room with a knife at your throat forcing you to phone the receptionist and say it is OK to return the ID.

Trying to scare him away?

 

Come on now, how often does that sort of thing happen?

 

All right, better to be safe than sorry so perhaps a few 'horror stories', no matter how unlikely, are preferable to giving the impression to a first-time visitor he's just landed in Paradise where everything will be just marvellous.

 

The OP hasn't asked for specific advice about offing anybody but maybe it is relevant here.

 

A boy offed from a go go bar or host bar (assuming he's not a freelance) will be known to the bar and his id known. Compare that to a person taken to your room arising from a chance encounter on Walking Street (in Pattaya), the beach, a disco or wherever. Such a person is 100% anonymous. You get the idea.

 

I would say that provided you keep your wits about you, do not get (obviously) drunk and NEVER take any drugs or accept any drinks or food offered you by people you've just met, you should be fine.

[Guest badcdn]

Sansuk Guesthouse in Pattaya might be up your alley.

 

I've stayed twice. It's off the beaten path, but not that far. The guesthouse is located about halfway between Jomtien (Dongtan Beach, Jomtien Complex) and South Pattaya (Boyztown, Sunee Plaza).

 

The guesthouse, (better described as a small complex) is well maintained, modern and gay owned. The staff and owner are all very friendly. Breakfast is included and there's a pool to lounge by. At 3:00, the Sauna opens and the cute Thai guys start flocking in.

 

The rooms are big as are the beds, but be warned, the mattresses are hard. I read somewhere that if you want a softer mattress, mention it to the owner. This is unconfirmed, so if you're considering them at all, it wouldn't hurt to email them and ask.

 

http://www.sansukpattaya.com/

[pong]

The only thing I would add is there is a benefit for me to stay in a "gay" hotel for the added security in bringing back frequent guests. The places I stay insist on checking and holding the ID of the guest at the front desk. I use this as a second-check on myself that the person is over 18, not using someone else's ID, etc. It also would reduce the chances of anything major happening as they would be easily identified after a theft, etc.

 

I don't believe any of the "regular" hotels provide this type of service.

That said, have a great trip !

nonsense-most HTLs do that-certainly in PTY. I think that str8 HTls may be even more aware of it as those ''gay'' ones-Thai ladies have much more of a reputation as the few barboys. ''Gay'' HTLs. or even that are said to be ''gay-owned'' are IMHO usually overpriced and tend to pressure you also in other unwanted (selling it as ''trusted'') things. But so do guesthss aiming at their own nationals-esp. when they feel unsure or hardly speekee the ankgrit even.

Agree with the latter wellwish-all this info may seem overwhelming, once here you''ll find that most of it is only for minor unlikely events.

[Guest anonone]

nonsense-most HTLs do that-certainly in PTY. I think that str8 HTls may be even more aware of it as those ''gay'' ones-Thai ladies have much more of a reputation as the few barboys. ''Gay'' HTLs. or even that are said to be ''gay-owned'' are IMHO usually overpriced and tend to pressure you also in other unwanted (selling it as ''trusted'') things. But so do guesthss aiming at their own nationals-esp. when they feel unsure or hardly speekee the ankgrit even.

Agree with the latter wellwish-all this info may seem overwhelming, once here you''ll find that most of it is only for minor unlikely events.

 

I will defer to your experience, as I have only stayed at "gay" hotels. For me, it is more known and I am comfortable there. To each their own.

[Guest thaiworthy]

I agree with Bob.

 

If you go to Chiang Mai, PJ's Place is amazing and wonderful!

 

 

I agree, I like PJ's place. I had heard so many wonderful things about it, I actually avoided the place for fear of being disappointed after high expectations; and I don't choose accommodations merely because they are gay-oriented. How can it be that good? I finally gave in and found that my fears were unfounded and I was not disappointed. I would recommend this place highly if you'll be in Chiang Mai. If you wanted to build your own guesthouse, gay or not, then this is model of how it should be done.

[Guest]

Sansuk Guesthouse in Pattaya might be up your alley.

 

Sansuk is not in the most convenient of locations. It's maybe a 20 minute walk to the gogo bars, or a baht bus ride.

Stay in South Pattaya and there's a lot to do within a 10 minute walk. Also a daily baht bus ride gets you to Jomiten beach.

Finally, I like the convenience of a good nearby coffee shop for morning coffee. Something like Gafae in Tuk Com.

[pong]

just to add a little to the assumed safety of these held ID's:

todays Thaivisa, news section, had a short report of a young Brit who was on his 1st night in this town stolen by a ladyboy offering massage, and whos ID was kept at hotels reception. It was his 1st trip into this land of smiles and he was aiming to study more of muay thai=thai boxing. Police laughed at him and told they would do nothing-put it on insurance and gained experience in life.

[Guest Geezer]

just to add a little to the assumed safety of these held ID's:

todays Thaivisa, news section, had a short report of a young Brit who was on his 1st night in this town stolen by a ladyboy offering massage, and whos ID was kept at hotels reception. It was his 1st trip into this land of smiles and he was aiming to study more of muay thai=thai boxing. Police laughed at him and told they would do nothing-put it on insurance and gained experience in life.

 

One must insure:

1. The ID is actually the boy’s own.

2. The ID is held by a third party, with the boy understanding it cannot be retrieved without the consent of the customer.

 

A boy’s ID is very important to him. If lost a replacement can be obtained only if a “hold” has not been placed on it in the place it was issued. It is a simple matter for police to have a hold placed on the issuance of a replacement ID. One can understand why the police laughed. What could they do so long as they didn’t know the boy’s identity?

 

Few hotels make a copies of visitors’ IDs; many desk clerks simply return them to the boys when they come down. In such cases it seems pointless even to leave them at the desk.

 

If there is any doubt the desk clerk will take appropriate care, one can leave the card in a safe deposit box at he desk.

 

The mere fact of the boy’s seeing the farang filling out and signing the form to obtain the safe deposit box, then placing his card inside the tray, and the tray inside the safe and giving the farang a key will likely give the boy pause.

 

If all this is too much trouble for safety when taking a stranger to your room -- forget it.