vinapu Posted Saturday at 12:41 AM Posted Saturday at 12:41 AM 8 hours ago, Suckrates said: True, but the PROBLEM is that the Billionaire oligarchs NOW run our government, and are making it a government that benefits ONLY them, so any reform that would make things better for the middle class in the insurance industry ISNT in their vision. They don't do anything which was not known before and still got quite strong mandate from that middle class to do whet benefits them only indeed. Unfortunately reader 1 Quote
Mavica Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM 20 hours ago, vinapu said: They don't do anything which was not known before and still got quite strong mandate from that middle class to do whet benefits them only indeed. Unfortunately I don't think anybody would or is suggesting Mr. Trump didn't win the election fair and square. There are many pushing back that there's any quite strong mandate to implement his most radical actions / promises, though. Mr. Trump won the popular vote by a margin of 1.5%. Of the 152,307,059 votes cast in the election, 75,009,338 were against Mr. Trump. The country remains closely divided: 49.9% to 48.4%. Yes, winner take all, to the victor goes the spoils ... and all that. But by no means a quite strong mandate for his radical proposals. Mr. Trump is doing what he promised, though ... I'll grant you that! Quote
Mavica Posted Saturday at 09:44 PM Posted Saturday at 09:44 PM On 12/20/2024 at 10:47 AM, Suckrates said: True, but the PROBLEM is that the Billionaire oligarchs NOW run our government, and are making it a government that benefits ONLY them ... Isn't this what's been happening in the USA and in other countries for ever so long, only not as openly blatant? vinapu 1 Quote
floridarob Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM On 12/21/2024 at 3:42 PM, Mavica said: Mr. Trump is doing what he promised, though ... I'll grant you that! Wait until he has the keys..... vinapu 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM Members Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM On 12/21/2024 at 4:42 PM, Mavica said: I don't think anybody would or is suggesting Mr. Trump didn't win the election fair and square. There are many pushing back that there's any quite strong mandate to implement his most radical actions / promises, though. Mr. Trump won the popular vote by a margin of 1.5%. Of the 152,307,059 votes cast in the election, 75,009,338 were against Mr. Trump. The country remains closely divided: 49.9% to 48.4%. Yes, winner take all, to the victor goes the spoils ... and all that. But by no means a quite strong mandate for his radical proposals. Mr. Trump is doing what he promised, though ... I'll grant you that! I am SERIOUSLY very doubtful that Trump won "fair and square".... Trump is very transparent when it comes to what he will do, and there were too many red flag comments from Trump for me to believe there wasnt some shady intervention employed. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 19 hours ago, Suckrates said: I am SERIOUSLY very doubtful that Trump won "fair and square".... Trump is very transparent when it comes to what he will do, and there were too many red flag comments from Trump for me to believe there wasnt some shady intervention employed. I wish you were right, but I fear that he did win the majority of votes, despite a clearly dishonest campaign. That says a lot about the American voter, the manipulation by social media, and the inability of the Democrats to put forward a coherent platform. The main casualty, I think, was truth, which no-one seems to consider relevant. Look at Matt Gaetz. Going the same way in UK, cf Boris Johnson. reader and floridarob 2 Quote
