Too gorgeous to be guilty?

[vinapu]

7 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

And by the way, I am (was) rather an anti-capitalist than an anti-communist. Both systems have pros and cons. Maybe the exit is something in between.

no wonder as you are from Latin America . Your version of American supported feudalo-capitalism did not much to lift  societies from  poverty and still present racism and classism. Poor masses are still relatively as poor  as they were 100 years ago  an governments are still white , even in countries with majority of indigenous population and big portion of population black. 

Communism for all it's faults at least attempted and succeed to a significant degree  to lift people from subsistence farming to more productive industrial jobs and did it in quite short period of time it can't be denied. 

Cubans are light years behind Americans but when they look to Haiti , likely they feel much better  

[Moses]

29 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I'm glad I'm old enough not to see it

29 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Asad's supposed 2 billions did not help him much and now we will see how much Moses and Putin will charge him for hospitality

But you aren't "old enough" to see what will be with Syria under radical Islamists and to think "maybe Assad wasn't so evil compared to these"

Some facts, known by AI, about guys who took Damask:

 

[Latbear4blk]

6 minutes ago, vinapu said:

no wonder as you are from Latin America . Your version of American supported feudalo-capitalism did not much to lift  societies from  poverty and still present racism and classism. Poor masses are still relatively as poor  as they were 100 years ago  an governments are still white , even in countries with majority of indigenous population and big portion of population black. 

Communism for all it's faults at least attempted and succeed to a significant degree  to lift people from subsistence farming to more productive industrial jobs and did it in quite short period of time it can't be denied. 

Cubans are light years behind Americans but when they look to Haiti , likely they feel much better  

No, my friend. I have experienced the worst of Capitalism  in the USA. But anyway, I am not getting into that debate.

[vinapu]

25 minutes ago, Moses said:

But you aren't "old enough" to see what will be with Syria under radical Islamists and to think "maybe Assad wasn't so evil compared to these"

 

that is part I can agree although  we still don't know. Perhaps we should archive it and return to discussion in 3 years as it's well known that predicting , specially predicting  future  is very difficult and fraught with perils.

But  yes , it's quite possible that in time Syria or world or both will miss " relatively benevolent " Asad's regime as we may be saying.

But that is not a reason not to be happy NOW that one butcher of own nation is gone. Perhpas it would be  good if world powers will keep away from there for a while when Syrians sort their  issues themselves.

We know only what we are shown.

as for AI sourcing news you cited above, if you ask AI for samples of most handsome guys in Syria in the buff , no doubt it will produce some. So not that is not source we can relay on as , to his peril , certain insurance  executive in USA learned recently.  

[vinapu]

27 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

No, my friend. I have experienced the worst of Capitalism  in the USA. But anyway, I am not getting into that debate.

I got it , just of curiosity , you are River Plata or Boca Juniors fan ?

[Latbear4blk]

11 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I got it , just of curiosity , you are River Plata or Boca Juniors fan ?

I am not interested in soccer. When I was a kid, I used to say I was a BJ's fan (no, not that BJ) because my mamá was.

[Moses]

16 minutes ago, vinapu said:

it would be  good if world powers will keep away from there for a while

They didn't it at past, not doing it now and will not do it in the future, and you know it.

Each group of bandits/rebels/insurgents/revolutionists there (name it as you want) has behind one or even few foreign secret service or party. Because of 2 words: gas and oil.

[vinapu]

16 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

I am not interested in soccer. When I was a kid, I used to say I was a BJ's fan (no, not that BJ) because my mamá was.

I get it very well. My Argentinian neighbour explained to me difference in social status of both group of fans. Her family was River Plata and almost disown her when she started dating Boca Juniors fan

[Latbear4blk]

9 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I get it very well. My Argentinian neighbour explained to me difference in social status of both group of fans. Her family was River Plata and almost disown her when she started dating Boca Juniors fan

LOL. Those are outdated and misguiding stereotypes. Among the followings of both clubs you will find rich and poor fans. The stereotypes come from the origin of the clubs, but are not representative any longer. 

[vinapu]

19 minutes ago, Moses said:

They didn't it at past, not doing it now and will not do it in the future, and you know it.

Each group of bandits/rebels/insurgents/revolutionists there (name it as you want) has behind one or even few foreign secret service or party. Because of 2 words: gas and oil.

three - and Latakia naval base.

there's also 4th component we people of the global North seem to omit , certainly misunderstand and underestimate -  islamic fanaticism of Middle East. Part of hate toward Asads was because they were Alevites , considered heretics within heretics by Sunni majority.

all Syria tragedy for me boils down to fact that some leaders don't know when to step down thinking they are impossible to substitute nation saviours. Then suddenly they are refugees if not worse and their graves are burned to the ground.

Balding leader of certain country between Norway and Alaska should consider

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, Latbear4blk said:

LOL. Those are outdated and misguiding stereotypes. Among the followings of both clubs you will find rich and poor fans. The stereotypes come from the origin of the clubs, but are not representative any longer. 

she is a daughter of another era approaching 70 now . Mind you outdated = not valid ANY LONGER so I don't think she made a story

[unicorn]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

that would be me. Although I don't condemn Luigi as much as wonder if he were more like Hunchback of Notre Dame , it were the same level of compassion  for him...

I certainly agree that our disdain for the victim shouldn't lead to discarding the consequences for murder. That being said, there were quite a few people celebrating the victim's death before the apparent perpetrator was known. As for Romania, Ceaușescu was one of the most brutal, sociopathic dictators of all, with kiloliters of blood on his hands. I suspect most people, especially Romanians, cheered when they shot him. I suppose that in his case it's debatable as to whether he was murdered or whether the "trial" to which he was subjected was legal (in which case it was merely a legal execution). I can guess what Assad's fate will be if the Syrians ever get a hold of him. 

I will never forget the words of those who shot Ceaușescu: "It's a pity we can kill him only once!". Given Ceaușescu's 60,000 victims, I remember thinking "Truer words have not been spoken." He was caught with $1 billion trying to flee the country he'd impoverished. While a more formal trial would have been more kosher, there were probably at least 1000 people clapping their hands for every person who shed a tear over his death. But the Germans let Honecker get away scot-free, for reasons I don't fully understand (though he wasn't as awful as Ceaușescu). 

[Latbear4blk]

35 minutes ago, vinapu said:

she is a daughter of another era approaching 70 now . Mind you outdated = not valid ANY LONGER so I don't think she made a story

She did not. Boca Juniors is placed in La Boca, a humble neighborhood of immigrants back then, while River Plate is in Núñez, an affluent suburb back then. Both neighborhoods are still contrasting, but the club's fans transcend social class and geography. 

[Suckrates]

 

I've had United Healthcare since 2017 as a supplemental plan to Medicare.  It costs me $400 monthly, BUT I have NEVER had any claims denied, and was never billed for any out-of-pocket costs, and I've had 2 major surgeries during that period totaling $400K, and I visit several specialists every 3 months, again with NO copay or out-of-pocket costs...  So my experience is quite different than a lot of others, but I agree insurance companies are finicky and difficult to deal with.  Same with auto insurance companies....  And I do understand Luigis pain and frustration, however he and his family are Wealthy, so I would assume they have Great insurance, better than the insurance I have, but perhaps because mine is in conjunction with Medicare, it works differently than a stand alone plan ? 

If Greed was a cause for Murder, which can be justified and accepted,  then what can we say about our INCOMING President Trump, who is the poster boy for GREED ?   He better keep his secret service real close, and treat them well.  

Nevertheless, I do agree he is HOT,  and would certainly Blow him,  but as I posted in a thread in the politics forum, he has a doppelganger, Ezra Sosa, a pro dancer on Dancing with the Stars....  They could be TWINS. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

 He better keep his secret service real close, and treat them well.  

 

it did not work for Indira Gandhi

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, unicorn said:

I certainly agree that our disdain for the victim shouldn't lead to discarding the consequences for murder. That being said, there were quite a few people celebrating the victim's death before the apparent perpetrator was known

......

. But the Germans let Honecker get away scot-free, for reasons I don't fully understand (though he wasn't as awful as Ceaușescu). 

 

 

 

certainly I agree with what you said about victims and perpetrators.

at times violent and sudden death seems fully deserved. Still if everybody meted own justice we would have an anarchy.

Certainly Ceausescus deserved their fate and worked overtime to earn it, still posting pics of their final moments above is poor taste.

In 1984 I was there and it was first and only time in my life when I was really hungry. At end of day we entered village , shop was opened and there was NOTHING there which cold be bought and eaten, not even single crumb of bread or piece of parsley. That was result of lunatic policy to pay off foreign debt at any cost and as fast as possible.  

But even with their atrocious rule, few years later their graves seemed to be well tended and attended  so as always they were those who missed them.

As for Honecker and non understanding to let him away , I have the same feeling about Kissinger who were celebrity till his death at 100 instead of dangling on some gallows decades earlier.

One more point to allow everybody accused due process.

[unicorn]

42 minutes ago, vinapu said:

...posting pics of their final moments above is poor taste...

I guess lots of newspapers of the day and magazines have poor taste, per your standards. I'd rather taste good! 😄

 

[Travelingguy]

We will learn more over time, but I suspect that there is an ugliness going on inside this killer’s head that will overshadow his good looks and cut abs.

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, unicorn said:

I guess lots of newspapers of the day and magazines have poor taste, per your standards.

 

not ones I read

[unicorn]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

not ones I read

[Suckrates]

Obviously he is a "good" shot and doesnt miss his mark.  Imagine how things could be different if HE were the Trump assassin ?     

[Marc in Calif]

On 12/11/2024 at 8:49 AM, unicorn said:

But yes, you are right, the LPSG string is full of men who are absolutely mesmerized by his gorgeous good looks.

As you were yourself when you wrote: "... hot damn, that man is incredibly handsome....!"
🤩😍

[Marc in Calif]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:36 PM, unicorn said:

Yes, a loved one's claim was denied....

Which of his loved ones had a claim denied by UHC?

 

[unicorn]

3 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

As you were yourself when you wrote: "... hot damn, that man is incredibly handsome....!"
🤩😍

Yes, he is!

Unfortunately, it's likely that instead of a wonderful life as a gorgeous man (his grandmother apparently would have left him a small fortune), he'll probably spend the rest of his life behind bars.

[Riobard]

9 hours ago, unicorn said:

Yes, he is!

Unfortunately, it's likely that instead of a wonderful life as a gorgeous man (his grandmother apparently would have left him a small fortune), he'll probably spend the rest of his life behind bars.

… tending to shots.