Tomtravel Posted December 12 Posted December 12 I do my part, my taxes go for the military support of Ukraine. Russians have the noble duty to bring down the evil they raised. Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 9 minutes ago, Tomtravel said: Russians have the noble duty to bring down the evil they raised. Why? Income is rising at last 20 years, GDP is rising, quality of life is rising. Do Russians have reason? Quote
vinapu Posted December 12 Posted December 12 8 minutes ago, Tomtravel said: I do my part, my taxes go for the military support of Ukraine. Russians have the noble duty to bring down the evil they raised. .... or suffer consequences of supporting his actions. Quote
vinapu Posted December 12 Posted December 12 2 minutes ago, Moses said: Why? Income is rising at last 20 years, GDP is rising, quality of life is rising. Do Russians have reason? sounds like Germans in 1940, just replace 20 with 7 t0oL1 1 Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 1 minute ago, vinapu said: sounds like Germans in 1940, just replace 20 with 7 Maybe. But also sounds like any other prosperous country. Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 It sounds funny: "We don't like him, so you should deal with it". If you don't like then you should deal. You do? Looks like it doesn't work as intended and only brings additional deaths. There were peace talks in 2022 in Istanbul. The West arrogantly advised Ukraine to interrupt them. Since that time Ukraine lost 4 regions, which were acknowledged by Russia as Ukrainian territory in 2022. Now these 4 regions are part of Russia. Well, now your hands are covered in blood. And now you are pushing Ukraine to lower the age of mobilization to 18 as a condition for continuing the supply of weapons. War to the last Ukrainian? Quote
Tomtravel Posted December 12 Posted December 12 Some Russians think its their duty to help Ukraine and the rest of the world and yes, they end up in a concentration camp. Like that boy. I know its funny for you, but not for the most. Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 28 minutes ago, Tomtravel said: in a concentration camp. Like that boy. Dear, last concentration camps were in Germany and US (for US citizens of Japanese origin). Here for adults are prisons (more harsh conditions) and "colonies" (less harsh conditions, people may work, have salaries, use shops on territories, call to home, study in colleges and UNI, and receive parcels, set of allowed activities depends on type of regime of colony - these may be "relaxed", "regular" and "strict", type of colony where criminal will live depends on court's decision and criminal codex). For kids (14 yo - 18 yo)- "special boarding schools" with mandatory education. Kids below 14 yo can't be prosecuted in any case. Check minimal criminal responsibility age in your state. Quote
Tomtravel Posted December 12 Posted December 12 Navalny was obviously shopping, studying and entertaining himself too much. khaolakguy 1 Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 29 minutes ago, Tomtravel said: Navalny Was Navalny below 18 yo? When Navalny was in colony, he regularly recorded messages to his supporters and communicated with his family. Therefore, Western media always had material to criticize the Russian regime. This camshot from his colony. Look on the bunkbeds - most of them have no mattress, that means nobody live there. better view, this is colony with "strict" regime: Quote
Moses Posted December 12 Posted December 12 List of countries by incarceration rate, Oct 2024. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate Quote
vinapu Posted December 13 Posted December 13 8 hours ago, Moses said: This camshot from his colony. Look on the bunkbeds - most of them have no mattress, that means nobody live there. all inmates shared Navalny's sad fate ? Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 1 hour ago, vinapu said: all inmates shared Navalny's sad fate ? https://dataunodc.un.org/data/homicide/Homicide in prison freshest data shows homicide rates in prisons for Russia 2.1 per 100K prisoners, for US 5.5 per 100K prisoners, France 8.8 Quote
vinapu Posted December 13 Posted December 13 8 minutes ago, Moses said: https://dataunodc.un.org/data/homicide/Homicide in prison freshest data shows homicide rates in prisons for Russia 2.1 per 100K prisoners, for US 5.5 per 100K prisoners, France 8.8 I'm sure that great consolation for Mr. Navalny's widow. Russia was portraited as workers paradise , now it look is inmates paradise as well. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 1 minute ago, vinapu said: now it look is inmates paradise as well You said it. Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 4 minutes ago, vinapu said: great consolation for Mr. Navalny's widow. By the way: his widow took selfies on the beach with Chichvarkin very soon after death of Navalny vinapu 1 Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 Navalny was used by everyone: the West for propaganda, his brother to make money, his wife to become famous, and even Putin to highlight the opposition. And then no one needed him anymore. Quote
vinapu Posted December 13 Posted December 13 8 hours ago, Moses said: By the way: his widow took selfies on the beach with Chichvarkin very soon after death of Navalny poor taste but perfect example of how Russian propaganda works Travelingguy and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 3 hours ago, vinapu said: poor taste but perfect example of how Russian propaganda works This fact fist been published by British The Sun, since Chichvarkin is living in UK. Quote
vinapu Posted December 13 Posted December 13 56 minutes ago, Moses said: This fact fist been published by British The Sun, since Chichvarkin is living in UK. doesn't make it better taste just because it started in Britain, specially by The Sun which is many things but not paragon of taste for all I know. Month ago I attended friend's funeral. There are pictures from the wake and funeral itself which somebody could post with tittle " Jack's widow and sons are celebrating with vinapu his untimely death" as inevitably we were recalling joyous moments of his life , not to mention , as always on such occasions , we reunited with many friends not seen for long time. Our pics with smiles are real but interpretation that way is poor taste and indeed, propaganda. Ruthrieston and floridarob 2 Quote
Moses Posted December 13 Posted December 13 6 minutes ago, vinapu said: and indeed, propaganda Well, then it is British propaganda, exactly that I meant when pointed you to The Sun Quote
vinapu Posted December 13 Posted December 13 well, you still don't get it. To put it in plain language, if somebody farts in Britain, it's just fart , not British fart floridarob and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
Keithambrose Posted December 14 Posted December 14 7 hours ago, Moses said: This fact fist been published by British The Sun, since Chichvarkin is living in UK. As a UK resident, it is well known that the articles in the Sun bear the same relation to reality as those in Pravda. Ruthrieston and vinapu 2 Quote
reader Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 On 12/12/2024 at 8:55 PM, Moses said: Navalny was used by everyone But he was only killed by Putin. khaolakguy, Ruthrieston and vinapu 3 Quote