How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent

[unicorn]

38 minutes ago, Moses said:

List of most famous Nazi, who found shelter in US:

Of these, only those brought in under Operation Paperclip portray any culpability on the US's part (though USSR almost certainly had similar). The fact that some slipped through under false identities with false documents not provided by the US government, is certainly not an inculpation of the US. The fact that it often took a long time to find them certainly not implicate the US. There are plenty of former mob bosses who were also able to evade justice for a long time due to false identities. Again, this is one of your stupid, meaningless comparisons. 

[Moses]

1 minute ago, vinapu said:

When it surfaced that he was Nazi, Speaker  of the House of Commons  who invited him stepped down immediately

Do you really think, what secret services didn't know who is Khunka when gave him Canadian visa?

Look on the graph of Ukrainian immigration to Canada in 1945, before and after...

[vinapu]

3 minutes ago, Moses said:

Do you really think, what secret services didn't know who is Khunka when gave him Canadian visa?

 

actually I do

[Moses]

2 minutes ago, unicorn said:

Again, this is one of your stupid, meaningless comparisons. 

It is not mine. It is ChatGPT analysis. Neutral and informative.

Sorry for broking your dreams.

[unicorn]

5 minutes ago, Moses said:

Do you really think, what secret services didn't know who is Khunka when gave him Canadian visa?

...

Yes, as do you.

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, Moses said:

 It is ChatGPT analysis.

too much trust in modern technology

[Moses]

Just now, unicorn said:

Yes, as do you.

When the opponent has no facts to counter, he begins to talk about the personality of the participants in the discussion.

[vinapu]

2 minutes ago, unicorn said:

Yes, as do you.

that's not nice

[unicorn]

8 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I doubt victims of CIA actions or secret Laos bombings would agree

Agree that the US uses nerve gas to kill its own citizens? If you have evidence that this happened, please provide it. 

[Moses]

Just now, vinapu said:

that's not nice

No worries, I don't care, because such behavior is excellent indicator (see above)

[Moses]

1 minute ago, unicorn said:

Agree that the US uses nerve gas to kill its own citizens?

So, if US poisoned foreign citizens, then everything is OK? Tell it to Vietnamese.

[unicorn]

2 minutes ago, Moses said:

So, if US poisoned foreign citizens, then everything is OK?

No, that's the complete opposite of what I said. Asad deserves prosecution for crimes against humanity for gassing his own citizens. So would anyone who gasses its own citizens (or throws them out of windows in tall buildings, etc.). I'm sorry if you and VP don't find it nice, but if your arguments and postings are abjectly and obviously stupid, as they often are, I will feel free to point this out. 

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, unicorn said:

Agree that the US uses nerve gas to kill its own citizens? If you have evidence that this happened, please provide it. 

no need, killing by bombing is only marginally more humanitarian. Citizenship of victim is irrelevant.

for you being shot by Mexican cop in Puerto Vallarta is not different for being shot by American one in San Franscico.

only difference is less funeral  bureaucracy

[Moses]

1 minute ago, unicorn said:

Asad deserves prosecution for crimes against humanity for gassing his own citizens. So would anyone who gasses its own citizens (or throws them out of windows in tall buildings, etc.).

You forgot one very important word: "If".

We all know what words of Western propaganda worth zero. See "Powell's case" above.

 

[vinapu]

7 minutes ago, Moses said:

So, if US poisoned foreign citizens, then everything is OK? Tell it to Vietnamese.

End is near , I agree with Moses. 

Still I like to remind you that in democracy or even 'democracy ' as you like to say,  is 57.18 times easier ( I know you like statistics ) to crimes to surface and prosecute, while autocracy has it easier to hide and silence.  It's why I feel sorry for you guys there. 

[Moses]

17 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Still I like to remind you that in democracy or even 'democracy ' as you like to say,  is 57.18 times easier ( I know you like statistics ) to crimes to surface and prosecute, while autocracy has it easier to hide and silence.  It's why I feel sorry for you guys there. 

This is classic "Our noble intelligence officers and their insidious spies."

17 minutes ago, vinapu said:

is 57.18 times easier

Tell it to Snowden

[vinapu]

6 minutes ago, Moses said:

This is classic "Our noble intelligence officers and their insidious spies."

 

no, case of people with closed windows not knowing what fresh air is

[Moses]

Exactly. Peace-loving USA and predatory China.

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

So, if US poisoned foreign citizens, then everything is OK? Tell it to Vietnamese.

How many Russians did Stalin kill, or allow to starve? 10 million, or more?

[reader]

[vinapu]

12 minutes ago, reader said:

thank you for reminding us plight of that young boy , victim of his oppressive state

[Moses]

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

victim of his oppressive state

Dear, in US more than 10 boys already been prisoned for contacts with ISIS. Contacts only. By the way: they got up to 20 years of penalty.

Google it.

This one boy applied to membership it terroristic organization. Not this one where dissidents writing pamphlets, but organization created and financed by Ukrainian secret service and based in Ukraine, organization what blew up cafe in Sankt-Petersburg where about 40 civilians died, blew up few houses on the south of Russia near the border with Ukraine. So fact what he got only 5 years is humanity. And that fact of participating in this terroristic organization confirmed by himself and his mother.

You may continue your fake cries...

[Tomtravel]

Terror against Russia and Putin is a freedom movement (like some brave Germans fought against nazis in Germany). Supporting ISIS not. The fact that Russian citizens suffer is an acceptable collateral damage. The boy is a hero, hope we have more like him.

[reader]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

Dear, in…..

Your stock must be rising @vinapu

🙂

[Moses]

7 hours ago, Tomtravel said:

hope we have more like him.

Well, you may join them then. Or you are brave only while sitting in warm home on soft sofa?

Why just "hope"? Set an example, go to Ukraine and join them, typical example of cowardice "with all thoughts and prayers".

Are you "hoping" that 15 year old will fight Putin for you? If you think that Putin should be fought, then go to Ukraine instead of sitting on the couch. You don't have to answer. It's clear anyway: you prefer that others suffer for your beliefs.