Guest Astrrro Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Was loking at Utopia's website and they list Blue Lime as gay friendly lodging. This is highly misleading. There's a sign at the entrance, Sex Travelers Not Welcome. Now I suppose you could check in with your 20 year old Khmer boyfriend but I doubt that you'd feel welcome. I applaud the hotel for being upfront with their policy rather than being surprised later. But what if one booked on a third party website? And yes, I know some gay people have no interest in young moneyboys and may be traveling with longtime barang partner. Quote
Guest Astrrro Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Please note the Utopia website lists a very old location of Classic Cabaret as it has moved twice since the listing. The correct location as of May 2011 is Street 63 at the intersection of Street 288. Odd numbered streets are perpendicular to even numbered streets. Quote
pong Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 maybe you are open to some minor adjustment/explanation: these boards one can see often in Cambodia and are mainly provided by the many NGO's that are against child-s..x-and all that so forbidden but also always reported as being so much on the rise activities. This country in particular seems to have a very wide attention for it. So it basically means what is als always said from Pattaya etc: check age. Quote
Guest josan Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 As is noted above this country has seen a big increase is travelers interested only in underage girls and boys. The sign, "Sex Travelers Not Welcome", probably refers to this group. I know of four hotels in Yangon that has this very same sign however you can bring in anyone you want, and a different one everyday, BUT of age. Quote
Rogie Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Is a sex traveller the same as a sex tourist? Probably . . . However, forget about the sex part for a minute. Many people who visit foreign countries seem to prefer the term traveller. To me 'traveller' implies an individual or a small group of people who book all aspects of their flights and travel itinerary themselves and usually prefer to make their own decisions about where to visit and where to eat, drink, sleep etc. They may ask for help and advice but never take what is written in a guide book as gospel; their opinions are their own. Some 'travellers' deliberately seek out places well off the beaten track and hate it when they come across a fellow kinsman doing likewise. The expression 'roads less travelled' comes to mind. I think I would be correct in saying a person who books a holiday with a company that specialises in travel, such as a travel agent or on-line business, in which their itinerary (but not accommodation) is pre-planned is generally regarded as being a tourist, as is somebody booking a package holiday. If we accept these rough and ready distinctions, and clearly there will be many shades of grey, how would a person visiting a foreign country solely or primarily for the purposes of indulging in sex with local people best be described? Sex tourist or sex traveller, or am I wasting my time even hinting that there may be a difference? Quote
Guest Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 What's wrong with a tourist who wants to experience the culture of a country & might just enjoy some sex with local adults, if the opportunity presents itself? As for Utopia, it is useful, but is certainly not a totally reliable guide for gay friendly accommodation. Regard it more as a shortlist containing good & bad options, which require further vetting prior to booking. Some of their hotel recommendations get VERY poor reviews on Trip advisor. Also, the worst Asian Hotel I've yet experienced was in their guide. Whilst Utopia is a good site, I will no longer book anything that's listed there without additional checks. Quote
Rogie Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 What's wrong with a tourist who wants to experience the culture of a country & might just enjoy some sex with local adults, if the opportunity presents itself? Nowt! In fact that's just how I would describe myself. But we have to accept the fact some men always rate sex their #1 reason for being in a particular country or place, whilst others are more pragmatic. Take Thailand: If I am in Pattaya my behaviour and expectations are a whole lot different than if I am on a road trip up north or north-east. Another comparison would be if I had a travelling companion versus travelling solo. Quote
Guest Astrrro Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 I also prefer to think of myself as a Traveler not a Tourist! Imagine a time tourist? Or Tourist Jim? I checked out the rooms at Blue Lime and inquired as to the meaning of the sign. The guy at the desk said while you could check in with a Khmer companion, bringing back an unregistered Khmer guest is not permitted. Quote
KhorTose Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 What's wrong with a tourist who wants to experience the culture of a country & might just enjoy some sex with local adults, if the opportunity presents itself? As for Utopia, it is useful, but is certainly not a totally reliable guide for gay friendly accommodation. Regard it more as a shortlist containing good & bad options, which require further vetting prior to booking. Some of their hotel recommendations get VERY poor reviews on Trip adviser. Also, the worst Asian Hotel I've yet experienced was in their guide. Whilst Utopia is a good site, I will no longer book anything that's listed there without additional checks. Absolutely great advice for any gay travel site. While Utopia often does have listing that Dragoncastle, neds, stickyrice, etc. do not have, I have found some listings are definitely poor choices or misleading. Quote
PattayaMale Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 I have stayed at the Blue Lime. It is right around the corner from the Blue Chili. Having stayed there, I believe unless they have changed the policy or I misunderstood the policy, they do NOT want guest's to bring back someone to the room. It is a nice place with a very nice pool and well managed. They were able to give me good advice on gay bars and massage places. No problem with that. It was a tuk tuk driver that actually told me they did not allow guest's to bring people back. Thinking of that now, I should have asked the reception. Quote
Guest Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 In some Asian countries, the notes on the back of the door discouraging people from bringing back prostitutes are almost standard. That doesn't seem to mean the policy is enforced. If in doubt about making an advance booking, why not just e-mail the hotel and ask about their policy? There's no need to be sensitive about that, but if you are, just use a different e-mail address for such enquiries. A hotel close to the Blue Chilli bar sounds like a good idea to me. Quote
Guest snapshot Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 All hotels in this group have a policy that they "stand against sex tourism". It's well advertised. http://www.thepavilion.asia (look at the list, includes Blue Lime). They don't want guests bringing back prostitutes. Unfortunately, this probably means inconveniencing and discriminating against single guests who happen to genuinely get friendly with a local too. Quote