President Biden pardons his son, Hunter

[Goober]

Checkmate!!!

[Suckrates]

As he SHOULD !!!!!   He did the right thing.

Compared to Trumps crimes, which he made "go away", Hunter is a Choir Boy.  

Fuck you Donald Trump & GOP lunatics......                                       

[Moses]

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

As he SHOULD !!!!!   He did the right thing.

 

- How to know a politician is lying?

- Their lips are moving.

[Suckrates]

9 minutes ago, Moses said:

 

- How to know a politician is lying?

- Their lips are moving.

HE"S THE SITTING PRESIDENT>  ITS HIS PEROGATIVE TO CHANGE HIS MIND>  HE DID WHAT ANY LOVING PARENT WOULD DO 

CERTAINLY TRUMP WOULD>  FUCK EVERYONE THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT>

[Moses]

44 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

HE"S THE SITTING PRESIDENT>  ITS HIS PEROGATIVE TO CHANGE HIS MIND>  HE DID WHAT ANY LOVING PARENT WOULD DO 

CERTAINLY TRUMP WOULD>  FUCK EVERYONE THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT>

Oh, dear.

I'm sure that your political beliefs are speaking for you now, not the truth. I could have heated up this discussion by simply finding in the archive what the Democrats said when Trump pardoned his daughter's husband.

The truth is that in the pseudo-democratic country that propaganda calls "democracy", the opinion of the law changes exactly every 4 years - along with the change of the owner of the oval office.

The justice system is constantly prostituting itself for the money and at the will of the temporary owners of the hill.

• Trump: guilty - not guilty - guilty - not guilty
• Kushner: not guilty - guilty - not guilty
• Biden Jr.: guilty - not guilty.

Why do you call this justice? It's a brothel, and the justice system has its legs spread wide.

[Moses]

And you complain about Trump's presidential immunity? At least presidential immunity exists legally based on an international convention.

But what is the immunity of the relatives of the US president based on? Anyone - from the Democratic Party, or from the Republican Party...

[Suckrates]

51 minutes ago, Moses said:

And you complain about Trump's presidential immunity? At least presidential immunity exists legally based on an international convention.

But what is the immunity of the relatives of the US president based on? Anyone - from the Democratic Party, or from the Republican Party...

The rules are the rules and we follow them.  If the rules arent liked, let our govt CHANGE them.  For now, a sitting President has pardon power, and it makes perfect sense for pardons to go to family members.  Putin would pardon HIS child if he needed to....  This topic and Bidens decision DOESNT need any discussion.  Its common sense.

 

58 minutes ago, Moses said:

Oh, dear.

I'm sure that your political beliefs are speaking for you now, not the truth. I could have heated up this discussion by simply finding in the archive what the Democrats said when Trump pardoned his daughter's husband.

The truth is that in the pseudo-democratic country that propaganda calls "democracy", the opinion of the law changes exactly every 4 years - along with the change of the owner of the oval office.

The justice system is constantly prostituting itself for the money and at the will of the temporary owners of the hill.

• Trump: guilty - not guilty - guilty - not guilty
• Kushner: not guilty - guilty - not guilty
• Biden Jr.: guilty - not guilty.

Why do you call this justice? It's a brothel, and the justice system has its legs spread wide.

He said, she said, who cares who said what ?  Bottom line, they said what they said and DID what they did which was in their own best interests.   Its clear govt really doesnt care about its people, they care about themselves and their power, and I think most Americans have come to understand and accept that.  Trump put himself above the law.  the least Biden can do is operate within the law, and the powers afforded Him.   Whoever doesnt agree......

[Stable Genius]

Biden pardoning his son is a spit in the ocean compared to what Trump has done, and will do.

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

The truth is that in the pseudo-democratic country that propaganda calls "democracy", the opinion of the law changes exactly every 4 years - along with the change of the owner of the oval office.

Actually, there are two words for that:   democracy, and law.   I know, I know.  They are difficult concepts to grasp in Genocide World.

Genocide Man rules for as long as he wants.  If you don't like it, you get a bullet in the head.  Or you are processed into meat.

We have this thing called elections.  In case you missed it, we just had one.   We have this thing called lawyers.  Trump used them wisely to delay a trial.  And Merrick Garland fucked up royally IMHO by not prosecuting Trump quickly and immediately in 2021 for Jan. 6th, which was a rape of democracy.  But, right or wrong, they all used the law in a democracy.  That is how law and democracy work. 

In every poll I have seen since the election a majority of voters still want the Jan. 6th trial to move forward.  Ain't gonna happen, of course.  But that's democracy for ya.  There are other nations where it is much easier.  In Genocide World, you are shot in the head or processed into meat.

Say It Ain't So, Joe

But to your point about Biden, I started a whole thread on that in 2019.   The whole Biden Crime Family thing was and still is complicated and obtuse.  But five years later, I'll stick with a few things I wrote at the time.   Call it my outstanding political judgment and ability to predict  😉.   These are two things I said at the time:

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For Biden, the problem may be that the appearance of impropriety is worse than impropriety itself.

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The axiom in politics is, "When you're explaining, you're losing."

Can someone please tell me how Joe "the Explainer" Biden is actually going to explain this one?

Biden managed to explain Hunter and Burisma away.  And five years later, Hunter's legal problems stem more from his drug addiction and gun, not any proven corruption in Ukraine - or anywhere.  Which is no surprise.  It has been almost obvious from the beginning that Joe Biden and family take it up to the line, but not beyond.  Whereas Trump has taken it over the line many times, as Jan. 6th and him being a felon prove.  And Trump is just getting started!  😨

The interesting thing scanning that 2019 thread is this question:  was electing Biden in 2020 a mistake?  

There's no question that the Hunter Biden fiasco, even if we assume it is simply the appearance of impropriety, has undercut everything Biden has said about Trump's lawlessness.  Pot, meet kettle.

The even bigger issue about 2020 is Biden's age, not his son.  I will always feel the seeds for Harris's 2024 defeat were laid in Biden's 2020 victory.  2024 was a close election.  As of now, it looks like Democrats will GAIN two House seats (220/215) compared to the 2022 outcome (222/213). 

So a lot of this is specifically about Biden, and inflation, and immigration.   But his age and ego was the setup.  Name me a President who does not have an ego, and seeks power? (Except for Genocide Man, who is a kind pussy cat.)  So once Biden could give himself an A for avoiding destruction during the midterms, it seems inevitable that his ego would come first.  And he would run again, even though it is now clear he should not have.  The election was close enough, and Harris was an imperfect enough candidate, that it is almost certainly true that some other Democrat might have slightly won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, rather than slightly losing them.  

Had Biden not been around in 2020, maybe Bernie would have been the nominee.   Would he have won, once he was attacked as a socialist?  Who knows.  In that 2019 thread above @TotallyOz and I were both singing the praises of Elizabeth Warren, who was having her moment at the time.  I think she would have made a great first female POTUS.  And Democrats would not have a problem with her age, or her corruption.  (Well, there is her cookbook.  LOL.)  She is much more like Mexico's Claudia Sheiunbaum, who fights like hell against the financial elities and for the working class.   

So I could paint an imaginary scenario where a President Warren had the same problems with inflation as every other global leader.  But, like Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico, managed to win because she fought like hell for the working class.

All the baggage that Biden brought with him is now a matter of history.  Ironically, it would have worked out better, in retrospect, if Biden has been a bit more of the moderate Biden of the 1980's, especially on immigration.    But I'm pretty sure Trump 2.0 will make Hunter Biden's flirting with the edges of the law look like saintliness in comparison.

It is predictable that Democrats will look for candidates in 2026 and especially 2028 that don't have Trump's problems with lawlessness.  And that fight like hell for the working class, not billionaire donors and oil company CEOs.  I'm glad that the lessons of this narrow defeat are so clear.  If Democrats can't figure out what we need to do in 2026 and 2028, that is our own fault.

One other thing is 1000 % obvious.   People are breaking the law to get into the United States.   And many of the best and brightest left Russia, where they do not have freedom and are processed into meat.  The main reason people are moving to Russia is they are children being stolen by Genocide Man, or women being bombed out of their homes.

A Russia Without Russians. Putin's disastrous demographics.

I'll take democracy and law, as imperfect as it is, thank you.

[EmmetK]

When CNN turns against a democrat President, you know you screwed up.

CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig said Monday on “News Central” that President Joe Biden tarnished his legacy with his pardon of his son Hunter.

‘I respect the Justice Department. I respect the jury’s verdict.’ Well, now he’s gone back on that.” Honig said, “There has long been a fair debate — fair on both sides — about whether Hunter Biden is being treated overly leniently or overly zealously because of his status as Joe Biden’s son I think there are pints to both sides of that. But what I think is not disputable is that this is a historic act of political nepotism.

“This pardon will tarnish Joe Biden’s legacy. I mean, Joe Biden, let’s be clear here, he lied to us for a long time. He said categorically, ‘I will not pardon my son.’ He said I will take it off the table. And he couched it in very high-minded terminology.

CNN’s Honig: Hunter Pardon ‘Will Tarnish Joe Biden’s Legacy’ How can you tarnish something already covered in manure? Dung piles don't tarnish! You can't get much lower than being a lying, incompetent pedophile traitor.
Joe Biden's legacy: The laziest, most corrupt, and most incompetent president in the history of the United States of America.
Dementia Joe biden, Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, Adam Schiff, the entire J6 panel are covering their collective rear ends. They can hear the Trump DOJ footsteps getting closer.

The Biden Crime Family - Just one of the Democrats Criminal Enterprise that use the Government to profit and then as a cover. INFLUENCE PEDDLING AND MONEY LAUNDERING.

TO THE VICTOR GO THE SPOILS
 

[Suckrates]

Biden doesnt OWE anyone an explanation for this.  He is the sitting President, he has the Power, and its his son.   Pretty simple huh ? 

People are just looking for shit to Bitch over....   Start bitching over a Felon elected President.  

[Moses]

17 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

democracy, and law

You should write "democracy" and "laws". 

Because decisions that made both presidents (Joe Alzheimer and Orange Clown) are heavily based not on the oath they took when they assumed the presidency, but on family ties. If this were not so, then the pardons would have been issued immediately after the court decisions were made, and not "five minutes before leaving the oval office and turning off the lights."

As for the "law" - the biggest irony is that the carousel of "guilty - not guilty - guilty - not guilty" was under the same laws, which serves as irrefutable proof of the fact - American justice is NOT BASED ON LAW and is completely dependent on the political circumstances of the court decisions.

[stevenkesslar]

7 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

“This pardon will tarnish Joe Biden’s legacy.

Happily, nothing will ever tarnish Donald Trump's legacy. Ever.  Nothing at all.

TO THE VICTOR GO THE SPOILS

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TRUMP CRIME FAMILY CORRUPTION

TRUMP CRIME FAMILY FELONY

TAX CUTS FOR BILLIONAIRES

ILLEGALLY DEPORT US CHILDREN WHILE LETTING FENTANYL DEATHS SKYROCKET

[Moses]

4 years - flip - 4 years - flop - 4 years - flip - 4 years - flop...

[EmmetK]

Dementia Joe AND Hunter will end up inside Dante's ninth ring of HELL and well deserved too.
This is where lying, corrupt pedophiles will hit bottom.

As for Eli Honig saying the pardon and the lies will  "...tarnish his legacy."
I can hear my late grandfather saying "You can't shine a sneaker" and "You can't polish a turd."

Dementia Joe biden has been the laziest, most corrupt and most incompetent senator, vice president and president in the history of the United States of America.
He is the very example of the Peter Principle.

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[Moses]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Its common sense.

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

For now, a sitting President has pardon power, and it makes perfect sense for pardons to go to family members.

You know what is common sense? 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

If pardon is based on family membership, then that pardon is in contradiction with one of most important American declarations.

 

[TotallyOz]

7 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

I can hear my late grandfather saying "You can't shine a sneaker" and "You can't polish a turd."

Speaking of turds, I think your late grandfather may have been wrong. How do I know?  A turd is moving from Mar Largo and his golden castle in NYC to the White House. It seems that turds can be polished.

[Suckrates]

2 minutes ago, Moses said:

You know what is common sense? 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

Obviously, our Supreme Court has told us "all men are NOT created equal"   One man is ABOVE the law, Donald Trump, because he is President.  So while Biden is STILL President,  HE is above the law, given pardon power and Saved his son.... The absolute RIGHT thing to do !

I would love to see YOU, Mr Moses, tell Putin he can not pardon HIS child.....   Such a ridiculous idea....Shame on you for even having this conversation. 

[Suckrates]

 

Biden is saying, "FUCK MY LEGACY, I love my son more"  and for that his legacy is even Greater. 

While Trump is working his corrupt ass off to ERASE every crime HE committed to CREATE a false legacy, when he is rated the WORST President in our history.   

[Moses]

7 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

Supreme Court has told us "all men are NOT created equal"

That's correct, and it is based on law. Good law or bad law, but The Law.

7 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

Saved his son

This is based on wish and family membership. Like in monarchy. Hunter isn't president to use immunity. Dad just (ab)used presidential privileges. 

[stevenkesslar]

41 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

This is where lying, corrupt pedophiles will hit bottom.

I knew Trump was a liar and corrupt.   And a felon.   And a rapist.  And so on and so forth.

Is he a pedophile, too?

Or is your cruelty clouding your mind?  Were you thinking of Matt Gaetz?

By the way, as of now Democrats picked up two House seats compared to 2022.  Still a bitter defeat.  But this is a Trump landslide?  LOL.

Stick to cruelty.  You just ain't good at critical analysis.

[stevenkesslar]

22 minutes ago, Moses said:

Dad just (ab)used presidential privileges. 

Seriously?   You seem to say these things with no sense of irony.  I mean, yeah.  People can and will debate whether he used his privilege, or abused it.  But coming from you?

Granted, Genocide Man is one of the richest men in the world.  So these kinds of mundane concerns - the law, democracy, corruption - are things he dispatched long agoin Genocide World.

But since you come here to defend genocide, it seems like you should at least have a sense of irony when you say these things.

 

 

 

 

[Moses]

1 minute ago, stevenkesslar said:

But since you come here to defend genocide, it seems like you should at least have a sense of irony when you say these things.

when an uncultured opponent has no arguments, he resorts to personal attacks: a common bazaar practice

[stevenkesslar]

23 minutes ago, Moses said:

when an uncultured opponent has no arguments, he resorts to personal attacks: a common bazaar practice

LOL.  You come from Genocide World, which has been ruled by Genocide Man for decades.  He is running a great genocide.   And you want to call me uncultured?  And preach about democracy and the rule of law?

Maybe you do have a sense of irony, after all.

But let's just cut to the chase, okay?

If you want to talk about US lawlessness, I would put Republicans/W./Wall Street and 2008 at the top of the list of 21st Century US lawlessness.   And nobody went to jail!  Republicans - who ran the White House, the Senate, the House, and the regulatory agencies - deregulated banking and mortgages from 2002 to 2006 or so, and let greedy predators do whatever they wanted.   By 2008 it drove the global economy off a cliff.  I give Trump 2.0 at least a 50/50 shot of doing something similar, probably with financial deregulation and crypto. I hope I am wrong.

#2 on my list would be the Iraq War.   Again, no one went to jail.  One of the things I worried about at the time - the erosion of global standards would lead to more of the same - did lead to more of the same.   Genocide Man saw what W. did, and said, "Okay.  I'll do the same in Ukraine."   Of course, W. and Cheney did not completely get away with it.  It led their party to ruin in 2008.  Genocide Man does not have to worry about elections.

I am completely clear that if I could eliminate one US President in my lifetime from history, it is a no brainer.  I would take take Gore over W. in 2000 in a heartbeat.  Trump, so far, has not done anything on the scale of the Global Financial Crisis or the Iraq War.  But he has four more years.  So it's not too late.  My hope is that Trump moderates and tries to actually build a multi-racial working class party, focused more on pro-family child tax credits for the Latino and Black and Asian and White working class than on tax breaks for White billionaire donors and oil company CEOs. I'm not holding my breath.  Genocide Man is all about his billionaire kleptocracy.   That's closer to what Trump 2.0 will be, probably.

The nice thing about Trump is that all the Ukrainians who are fodder for genocide, and all the ethnic minority and poor Russians that Putin is literally buying to be processed into meat, will likely get a break.  Genocide Man will not go quietly into the night.  So the best hope for Ukraine is that there is a ceasefire, not peace.  And it holds while Genocide World continues to die of rot and corruption, just like the Soviet Union did.  Putin definitely won a very important battle in 2024.  He did not win the war.

Same for war criminal Bibi the Baby Killer.  Except Palestinian women and children will not be so lucky.  That genocide will likely continue, and get worse.  @EmmetKruelty will be sickly happy whenever Palestinian children that war criminal Bibi tried hard not to kill are slaughtered, because war criminal Bibi planned to slaughter them.  Fewer dead Ukrainian women and children, and Russian men.  More dead Palestinian women and children.   Probably.   

Genocidal monsters are at least predictable.  Like Genocide Man, war criminal Bibi and his genocide will not go quietly into the night.

[EmmetK]

Dementia Joe biden promised TWELVE times that he would not pardon Hunter. So Dementia Joe biden misspoke TWELVE times?
Hunter can be compelled to testify before Congress and to be charged with either contempt for failing to appear, or perjury for lying under oath.

The corrupt and crooked biden family can still face RICO charges.

Hunter Biden, scion of one of the most corrupt crime families in history.

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