Did Dems "ALLOW" Trump to steal 2024 ?

[Suckrates]

Its an interesting conceptual theory, but think about it for a moment...   One things Dems were NEVER able to overcome was Trumps rhetoric about 2020, and STOLEN elections.  How any election the GOP lost was "rigged",  the voting process was unfair , unsafe and corrupt.   Since 2020, Trumps nonstop dialog about his stolen election dominated media, and was a constant talking point in his campaign.  He would not let it go.

So what IF, Dems decided to "take one for the team" and allowed Trump to STEAL 2024, and GUESS WHAT ?    From the announcement of his win, Trump has NOT mentioned stolen, rigged, tampered, unfair elections again.  The notion has disappeared from Trumps agenda, as he now contemplates the "deconstruction and Destruction" of America.

Were Dems complicit, thinking a Trump win would finally END the "stolen election" narrative",  which it DID ?    The Dems, not even "challenging" Trump miraculous Win, because "we are the party that doesnt challenge results", and they just let him sail back into Power, hoping it wouldnt be so bad, but at least would END the rigged election talk ?  

Its certainly a stretch, but D.L. Hugley has floated this idea as well, reminding us that in Trumps final weeks of campaign, he routinely told his voters NOT to VOTE, and that he didnt NEED their votes because "I have so many votes I dont know what to do with them".....   Were the votes already "keyed up" just waiting to be announced on election night ?   From the speed of the election results, ALL in Trumps favor across the board, it seems like they were ?    Did we watch something nefarious and illegal take place before our eyes ?   And now the issue of stolen elections is laid to rest, it seems from EVERYONES standpoint, while we have a Slap Happy Trump steam rolling over government even before he takes office.  Trump and First Lady Elon Musk invested alot "financially" and it paid off.   Did Trumps sugar momma BUY him the Win ?    And what about those Dems ?   Are they regretting their "decision", knowing it has backfired, because they didnt believe Trump would do everything he said he would, but they see now that HE MEANT IT  ???

I am curious to know what my dearest separated siamese twin sister @stevenkesslar  thinks about this theory ?   We will know once he returns from Thanksgiving at his "other REAL sisters" home....

As for my self declared FRIEND  @EmmetK, I am sure he will twist and spin this in Trumps favor as he is "mandated" to do by his peers, and post that silly Trump Train mantra, which I am certain will DERAIL before midterms ?  

This post is a bit LONG for me, but is dedicated to my "dearest" StevenK....

[stevenkesslar]

On 11/29/2024 at 7:04 PM, Suckrates said:

I am curious to know what my dearest separated siamese twin sister @stevenkesslar  thinks about this theory ?

Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving Sis.  I had one filled with family and love.  These family members were all Harris supporters so we mostly avoided talking about Trump so as not to sully the festive mood.  

Of course, I am sure we will have four years of love from Trump, and @EmmetKruelty.   Oh, wait.  We already had our Day Of Love ............Jan. 6th.  Never mind!  We don't need more cop beatings.

I am glad Trump won the popular vote, so as to avoid yet another Republican Presidency (like after 2000 and 2016) where we only have W. or Trump because White guys used to own slaves and wanted an electoral college to defend it.  I'm also glad Trump has a bare House majority.  We did pick up one and maybe two more House seats in SoCal in the late counting.  So Democrats actually did a wee bit better (220 to 215, it seems) than 2022 in the House.  Some Trump landslide!  But given where we are at I actually think it is better that Trump be treated the winner, fair and square.   He should be allowed to lay on his tax cuts for billionaires, Medicaid cuts, and all the @EmmetKruelty-style attacks on transgender kids.   And possibly they'll go as far as the illegal deportation of American children. 

Let Trump's cruelty and bigotry flow, since we don't have a choice now.   And we'll see whether America likes it as much as we did from 2017 to 2020.

I don't think MAGA Republicans stole the election.  In fact, they barely won it.  Again, we actually gained at least one House seat relative to 2022.  In 4 of 5 swing states, the Democratic Senator won - barely - even as Trump won- barely.  So it was just a fair and close election.  I think Democrats dignified ourselves by not being the lying, crooked, destructive, and whining anti-democratic piece of shit Trump was in 2020.  Jan. 6th has never gone away.  And never will.

I will be spending 3 days with my full on MAGA/Trump niece this week, so I have been wondering how I will address this with her, if at all.  I already emailed her congratulations when Trump won.  One of my best friends is a severe melt down with his family, many of whom are Trump supporters.  No Thanksgiving love was shared by them.  I won't go there with my family, several of whom voted for Trump this time.  Mostly, I think the right thing to say is, "It was the economy, stupid.  So you won because of that.  Congratulations."  All my Harris supporter family members I just had a lovefest will feel that was the bottom line. It was the economy, stupid.

That said, I will add one line.  What happened after the 2020 election, and Jan. 6th,  was deeply unprincipled.  And I just have no respect for the people who still believe Trump's lies about 2020.  Nor do I respect the beating of cops, the destruction of democracy, the demolition of guard rails.  So I will say some version of this to my niece, and anyone else I know and love that believes Trump's 2020 bullshit, as she does. 

It is not fair, really.  We're being the good sports.  And the polls show they STILL believe the 2020 election was stolen.  And we don't know what Trump may try in the next four years, that is anti-democratic or dictatorial.  So my posture will be, "Congratulations.  But you were and are deeply unprincipled on something really important.  Hope you don't try it again.  If you do, plan on more resistance.  But, again, congratulations on winning and being a good winner, so far, unlike being a very bad loser in 2020."  It's a mixed message.  But I think even people I love deserve to hear I think you are going along with something deeply unprincipled and wrong.

The more this sinks in, the more obvious it seems that Democrats were in a very bad spot, much of which we brought on to ourselves.  Biden is wildly unpopular.  In something like 54 elections around the globe, I believe 45 incumbent parties got shellacked due to inflation and post-COVID anger.  Plus there's no question lots of people in the middle were pissed about immigration and some of the other perceived excesses, like transgender prisoner sex changes.  Trump scapegoated transgender people as the new BAD BLACKS (Willie Horton in 1988) or BAD LATINOS (raping Mexicans in 2016) or BAD MUSLIMS (Islam is evil in 2016). So I think it makes complete sense that Trump could win 49.9 % of the vote in this environment - not a majority. Even though all the bad feelings about Trump are alive and well, and will soon be relived in all their ugliness and bigotry and trauma.

The most interesting question to me, which basically no one is talking about, is this:  how did a Jewish Latina woman, Claudia Sheinbaum, win in a landslide in Mexico?  Even though she is part and parcel of the incumbent party?  I think that answer is that AMLO's Morena, unlike Biden's Democrats, was seen as fighting and winning every day for working class families.  So that is what Democrats need to focus on now if we want to win in 2026 and 2028.  Trump will make that easier for Democrats, most likely by being as bad or worse as he was from 2017 to 2020.

 

[Suckrates]

If any of what you say is gonna come to fruition, the Dems have gotta ........