What the boys think of us

[Min]

Sometimes, just to kill time, I would (discreetly) point at a customer, who's sitting in the same bar or just passing by, and ask the boy(s) what "the store" makes of him. If boys know you for a long time and trust you, they can be honest and sometimes very specific in their opinions, which, I believe, are shared by many others in the same bar.

Here are some snippets I collected yesterday in Pattaya. 

"That customer's all smiling but boys don't like to sit with him because he's very demanding." 

"That one is worse. He once opened a bottle and forced me to drink a lot to get me drunk so that he can deep-kiss me. I don't kiss customers in the store and I hate it. He also asked me go hotel with him. I no go." [the last part was made originally in English] 

"He's Japanese, nice and generous. Come here a lot, usually sit with many boys at the same time. Also take us out to parties and restaurants without doing anything nasty to us." 

"He has a handsome face but he's not clean. Body odor, bad breath. I don't want to go with customers who are not clean."

"He's nice and gentle. Most of the times, he just want to talk and us to listen. No groping." 

"He once asked D. to suck him for 40 minutes first. Yes, he said FORTY MINUTES. Then had sex for 2 hours in total and he gave only 1000 Baht".
[I did manage to talk to D. about this particular case and saw his horrified look at the mention of the customer. He's probably scarred for life.] 

[vinapu]

it's interesting to know indeed but at end of day I'm not big fan of boys badmouthing their clients and clients badmouthing their boys.

There's always chance that opinion is distorted for one reason or another .

Sticky  subject for me as I was once (that's all I know)  undeservedly badmouthed by guy who even refused to undress , forget about taking shower. Luckily boy I had in sight was in need of money so he went with me and as a bonus told me what he was told. 

[floridarob]

52 minutes ago, Min said:

Sometimes, just to kill time, I would (discreetly) point at a customer, who's sitting in the same bar or just passing by, and ask the boy(s) what "the store" makes of him

Thai's are gossipy , bar guys more so.....

Imagine what they say about you too 😉

Money plays a big part of their impression of people, as well as looks, hygiene, sex role, dick size, hotel (status is important) and of course how they perceive our treatment of them.....some things that are important to them isn't for us and vice versa.

One of the 1st things people look at are your feet, to see what type of shoes you have.... pay attention walking by the stalls in markets or Patpong, they look at your feet and up at you. I used to have broken flip flops that I refused to throw away until I had no choice... the looks I got  were hysterical.

[reader]

The less complimentary things I hear—aside from zero to 100 baht tippers—are ridiculous demands, poor hygiene, and demeaning behavior.

[spoon]

When i asked the guy something similar, its usually on the topic thats more sensual/sexy which helps improve our session. For example, have you done this or that with customer, or has a customer do this or that to you. I find it is much easier to learn what they like or not if its in a third person situation as if i asked directly, they might be reluctant to answer truthfully fearing tips that night might be affected. 

One of such conversation that still sticks to my mind is the guy told me he had once a customer hirer him and like 10 other guys and they take turns fucking him. 

Gossiping about a customer, and even worse, badmouthing them, does nothing in my favour, but reflect poorly on the guy i might off. I rather them talked to me about other guys in the bars rather than the customers hehe.

[reader]

I agree that talking with prospective off is very good approach before committing to go forward. But also believe accounts of abusive behavior by customers needs to be shared so long as they are not identifiable.  Guys in bars and shops run into many very good people but also some dregs.

We tend to describe in generalities good guys we encounter along with less satisfactory ones. What’s good for goose is good for gander. It comes down to fairness.

[Vessey]

We are the customers, and my experience is that the boys will usually tell us whatever they think it is we want to hear, about ourselves and about others.  I am always wary about boy who speak badly about other customers as it leaves me wondering what they are then saying to them about me?

In terms of basics, treating them with respect, ensuring my personal hygiene is good, that I look presentable, that I have properly 'prepared' if I am to be the bottom this time, etc. 

Most of my holiday short-times are taken from amongst my small band of 'regulars' who I have gotten to know over a number of years. They all seem keen to see me again; hopefully because I treat them well, pay them well, and often feed them well.  In turn they make an effort to make me feel good, and enjoy my time with them. Works well!

Some of them will happily share information and pictures about their families and friends, or talk to me about their current Thai boyfriend, etc. I always take that as a mark that they like me and maybe think of me as being a 'good customer' as opposed to being just another customer. But hardly any will show any interest in my life outside Thailand.

But, all in all, its all variations of the customer/money-boy relationships.  Cut your sponsorship and see how long your 'boyfriend' hangs around! 🤣

[jason1975]

3 hours ago, spoon said:

I rather them talked to me about other guys in the bars rather than the customers hehe.

Yes me too! I want inside information on the guys! Hehehe.

[bkkmfj2648]

3 hours ago, reader said:

But also believe accounts of abusive behavior by customers needs to be shared so long as they are not identifiable.

I strongly endorse this as part of the philosophy = "Birds of the same feather {tend} to flock together".

[bkkmfj2648]

39 minutes ago, Vessey said:

But, all in all, its all variations of the customer/money-boy relationships.  Cut your sponsorship and see how long your 'boyfriend' hangs around! 🤣

And this is SO SO SO SO true.  So, be very careful with whom you allow yourself to fall in love with.

[vinapu]

But I need to add in general I consider boys very discreet. Many of my boys know that I know their other customers and still never ever ( I recall only one exception and that was nothing drastic ) comment on them , neither good nor bad. Only deviation from that  I recall is ' do you  know when  (or  if) A  is coming to Thailand ?

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Vessey said:

But, all in all, its all variations of the customer/money-boy relationships.  Cut your sponsorship and see how long your 'boyfriend' hangs around! 🤣

you got that right.

Often when I'm there boys are bombarding me daily with Line messages "when you see me or come to the bar again?". As soon as they learn I left there's silence until next trip. Rarely one of them will ask out of blue ' when you come to Bangkok ? " although few do.

[Min]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

it's interesting to know indeed but at end of day I'm not big fan of boys badmouthing their clients and clients badmouthing their boys.

There's always chance that opinion is distorted for one reason or another .

Of course, information from this kind of source is susceptible to distortion and personal biases/grudges. I certainly don't rely on it to form my opinions about fellow customers (No plans anyway. After all, I don't know any of them). But it does give me ideas about what kind of info boys tend to focus on and share among each other. 

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

Imagine what they say about you too 😉

Believe me, I already heard several things less than flattering about myself. Sometimes the boy even said it, in my presence, in Thai to another boy because he knows I don't understand, and the latter later told me.

6 hours ago, reader said:

The less complimentary things I hear—aside from zero to 100 baht tippers—are ridiculous demands, poor hygiene, and demeaning behavior.

That sums up nicely things they tend to focus on.

[reader]

2 hours ago, jason1975 said:

Yes me too! I want inside information on the guys! Hehehe.

Once inside information is outside it’s no longer inside. 😀

[vinapu]

some of that information may be useful in our hunting. Recently I learned that one of Jupiter boys I may be pursuing - one heavily tattooed whos is in the shows, is roommate with one of my semi-regulars. 

Another one turned out to be invited to my other boy's brother wedding. I even tried my boy to act as intermediary / pimp but somehow he pretend he doesn't understand  so I gave up (for now) 

[Keithambrose]

2 hours ago, Min said:

Of course, information from this kind of source is susceptible to distortion and personal biases/grudges. I certainly don't rely on it to form my opinions about fellow customers (No plans anyway. After all, I don't know any of them). But it does give me ideas about what kind of info boys tend to focus on and share among each other. 

Believe me, I already heard several things less than flattering about myself. Sometimes the boy even said it, in my presence, in Thai to another boy because he knows I don't understand, and the latter later told me.

That sums up nicely things they tend to focus on.

That seems very fair.

[floridarob]

3 hours ago, vinapu said:

I even tried my boy to act as intermediary / pimp but somehow he pretend he doesn't understand  so I gave up (for now) 

@TotallyOz seems like you're not the only one that plays the long (stalking)  game 😱

[Londoner]

They frequently find us hilarious but, I'm told, usually "jai-dee", that is "kind-hearted". Asians are considered more generous (or wealthy) than the rest of us. Of course, they don't have to spend so much money getting here. 

[Travellerdave]

About 10 years ago I became friendly with another gay Brit who had developed a considerable ability in verbal and written Thai language including its dialects in Isaan and Cambodia. This ability he often did not reveal to Thai people including during his interactions with bar boys. Whilst I sat with him in bars enjoying drinks he amused me sometimes by telling me what the boys were saying about us and generally. We kept in touch but his visits to Pattaya ceased after he started an immigration advisory business back home in England.

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Travellerdave said:

About 10 years ago I became friendly with another gay Brit who had developed a considerable ability in verbal and written Thai language including its dialects in Isaan and Cambodia. This ability he often did not reveal to Thai people including during his interactions with bar boys. Whilst I sat with him in bars enjoying drinks he amused me sometimes by telling me what the boys were saying about us and generally. 

remains me what  Christian PFC once said - that his ability to speak Thai is his hidden weapon.

Certainly it would be fun to know what is being said when we pretend to be deaf although some of things we wold hear could be nasty eye-opener. Sometimes it's better to be kept in the dark.

[a-447]

In my experience, the guys have never turned to me and criticised a customer sitting in the bar.

However, they have told me of various unhappy experiences they've had over the years with farang.

[a-447]

Because of my gaijin (farang) face, nobody in Japan thought I could understand Japanese so I heard a few comments about me on the train (usually late at night) about gaijin having big cocks!  Lol

When travelling in Europe I often latch on to Japanese language tours. The only time I got caught out was when the tour guide told a joke and I laughed.

I wish I could speak Thai because I'd love to know if the guys are saying something -good or bad -about me.

[gayinpattaya]

9 hours ago, Travellerdave said:

 ability in verbal and written Thai language including its dialects in Isaan and Cambodia.

And what Thai dialect do they speak in Cambodia............

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