Trip Report (Nov/Dec 2024) - Trying out new experiences

[jason1975]

16 minutes ago, floridarob said:

One of the benefits of staying at a higher end hotel, you can ask for housekeeping several times a day usually 24 hrs.
 

Yes I could have easily asked for housekeeping but I didn't want to cum again same day. Hehe.

[floridarob]

8 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Yes I could have easily asked for housekeeping but I didn't want to cum again same day. Hehe.

I was thinking for cleanliness.... but you didn't shower for sex after long walk in BKK  🤷‍♂️🥺

[JJH]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

Yes I could have easily asked for housekeeping but I didn't want to cum again same day. Hehe.

Hello can you check my messge pls. Thanks

[reader]

3 hours ago, jason1975 said:

At 7.30pm I met forum members along Silom Road. We took a taxi to Madrid's Pizza for dinner. The pizza crust was thin and crispy. We ordered 3 pizzas and some dishes. We also had wine. Delicious food and wonderful company. Would have stayed longer but we had to rush back to Patpong as one forum member had a guy waiting for him in bar. Hehehe.

Can’t recommend Madrid more highly. Pizza, appetizers and service worth the short diversion from Silom. 🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴

Many thanks to our host, Jenny!

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

End of 9-day stay in Airbnb condo. Enjoyable experience. Clean and well kept place. Excellent location in soi 3 near to local neighbourhood and near to Sauna Mania. Hehe. Gym and laundry facilities. Nice pool. Only disappointment was the lack of stove for cooking.

I checked out just before 11 and took a taxi to Le Meridien. Yes, I know it's not far from soi 3 but it was hot and I had luggage to carry.

There's a new addition to Le Meridien - an ATM at lift lobby! Convenient for hotel guests who need cash to make cash payment urgently! Hehe. I do however think the ATM could be located somewhere else in hotel lobby. Its bright green colours (Kasikorn Bank) doesn't match the classy aesthetics of the lift lobby. I happened to see the General Manager and spoke to him to give my feedback. He said thanks for my feedback and explained that was the best place to put ATM because of wiring and power issues.

I think the GM takes a real interest  in the hotel. He's always around,  and happy to have a chat. It may help that I'm a regular  customer!

[Raposa]

7 hours ago, jason1975 said:

We went to Good Boys. Forum member took his guy and left. I saw number 21 handsome twink from Myanmar whom I had noticed last week.

Is he tattooed like #77?

[jason1975]

42 minutes ago, Raposa said:

Is he tattooed like #77?

No tattoo. Pretty boy. Smooth.

[Raposa]

[jason1975]

13 hours ago, Raposa said:

Yes, this model is hot. He was walking around and getting lots of requests for photos. I believe this photo is from the guest's social media account.

I also took a photo with the model! Hehehe.

[jason1975]

Wednesday was lazing at hotel swimming pool and movie at Centralworld. Came back to Silom to meet my regular guy for dinner and we took a taxi to famous place Tawandang German Brewery in Chong Nonsi. It offers live Thai music and beer that is brewed in-house. Unfortunately, there were no seats for us. It was fully booked! Will make sure I do a booking in advance during next trip. We took a taxi back to Silom and I knew a place that has live music. 9th floor of Silom Edge. We took the lift with many guys who were there to go to Beef. "Beef gay bar. Like G O D." My guy is surprised by long lines. He says he knows about G O D but has never gone there. He has gone to DJ Station with customer though. We went to restaurant bar with outdoor seating named Throwback. We had steak and beer. 1400 baht. More expensive compared to our usual Foodland dinner but it was a nice experience and my guy got to see the outside of Beef for first time. Maybe a customer will bring him there?

After dinner, he went to his bar Freshboys while I went to Moonlight where I had promised to off Laos twink. We were happy to see each other again. He's still as cute as ever. I asked mamasan whether Boss working today. He said he comes late at 11.30pm. I didn't want to wait that long so Laos twink and I went back to hotel room.

[jason1975]

Thursday - During breakfast at Le Meridien, I spotted a hunky guy with farang customer just one table away. I faintly remember hunk working in bars in the past but I didn't see him this year. I wanted to be polite and say hi to hunk but customer looked intimidating so I better not approach.

In fact, last week, when I was staying at Airbnb condo in Soi 3 and I had to go out for breakfast, I bumped into a waiter from Dragon and Koi with an Asian customer (looks Korean). They were walking to Park Silom Foodland for breakfast. I called name of waiter and he turned around to say hi but his customer was staring daggers at me!

For the record, if anyone bumps into me with my current guy and it's obvious they know the guy well, I will never react with hostility. I will be warm and polite and introduce myself and say, "Nice to meet you. I know you are a good person and you have great taste!"

After breakfast, I swam at pool then off to Centralworld for another movie. On way back, I had lunch at Thai boat noodles shop at soi 3 and bumped into forum member and his guy. It was his guy's off day and they were running errands around the city.

Back at hotel for another hour at pool and small light bites at executive lounge on top floor then off to Sauna Mania! It was Thursday and today's theme was Towel Night a.k.a Nude Night. I wanted to experience it to see how different it was from other nights.

Walking along Soi Convent towards Sauna Mania, I bumped into favourite Vietnamese massage guy. He was on dinner break with two of his co-workers from Natural Massage on Soi 6. By the way, the name on the menu and window of his massage shop has been changed to G-Zone since 2 weeks ago. But the main signage on the outside of the building is still Natural Massage. And on Google Maps, it's still Natural Massage!

Lovely weather in evening and took this photo of the soi leading to Sauna Mania during sunset.

[jason1975]

Thursday night at Sauna Mania was just wow! The clothes rack with underwear for sale at 150 baht each was not there at counter. Everyone was supposed to wear towel or go nude. About 30 guys from 5pm to 6.30pm. Most were in dark maze but I did see a farang fucking an Asian guy on a bed on the top floor. There were two other guys watching. In the dark maze, there were some tall local hunks! Lots of groping and molesting. Much easier to touch with only a towel that comes off easily. There were 2 or 3 shy guys in underwear though. I got involved in 3-way fun. One horny guy was sucking another guy for a good 15 minutes and I touched and played with the two guys. I was also grabbed, manhandled and molested by a bigger guy for 5 minutes. While I enjoyed his attention, I had to apologise as I had to leave for dinner appointment. My conclusion - Thursday No towel night is a must try experience!

[floridarob]

5 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Thursday No towel night is a must try experience!

If you ever get a chance to go to Berlin, Laboratory on Thurs night is naked night, even the bartenders are naked. I was number 502, the place is huge and there's a doorman that rejects people, kind of like studio 54 if he feels you don't fit in....too fat or too old I guess, he let me in every time, maybe because of my tattoos since he's totally tatted?

Everyone inside looked decent, there were older guys, but in shape and well groomed.... 

Doors only open for 2 hrs 9-11pm and after that no one can come in and once you leave, you can't come back in. So no one is waiting for "something better" to come in, like we gays so frequently wait or go looking for. It's the most memorable place I've been to for a naked night, sauna mania is fun, but too many shy guys for me, even on naked night.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

Thursday - During breakfast at Le Meridien, I spotted a hunky guy with farang customer just one table away. I faintly remember hunk working in bars in the past but I didn't see him this year. I wanted to be polite and say hi to hunk but customer looked intimidating so I better not approach.

In fact, last week, when I was staying at Airbnb condo in Soi 3 and I had to go out for breakfast, I bumped into a waiter from Dragon and Koi with an Asian customer (looks Korean). They were walking to Park Silom Foodland for breakfast. I called name of waiter and he turned around to say hi but his customer was staring daggers at me!

For the record, if anyone bumps into me with my current guy and it's obvious they know the guy well, I will never react with hostility. I will be warm and polite and introduce myself and say, "Nice to meet you. I know you are a good person and you have great taste!"

 

 

we know you are gentleman and a scholar  but in my opinion you did right thing  by NOT approaching that hunky guy

( yes , he left the scene and now owns a restaurant but it looks it's still engaging his old customers from time to time ) sitting with other person. One never knows how either guy or his companion  may react so unless guy in question makes some kind of eye contact or motion it's better pretend you are complete stranger. Theoretically that farang he was sitting with  could  be somebody who doesn't know guy's past.  

You should leave waiter and Korean alone too.  

I'm sensitive to the issue as once I spotted one of my guys walking Silom on 'wrong ' side  with other Asian and it was clear by his  face expression I should pretend of not knowing him. What it turned out , that' customer' was his visiting Cambodian relative content to know that my guy has some warehouse job, which was and still is true but not whole truth.

Also one of Tawan boys who at the time landed nice sponsor and left the scene entirely , when we met by chance on BTS it was quite clear, even if he was travelling alone , that he doesn't know me anymore .He knows me again now, lol

Ever since when I see face familiar from the scene, either boy or forum member I'm waiting for a sign they noticed me at the least.

It would be nightmarish if I'm sitting in some restaurant with my friend who happens to be in Bangkok at the same time and some forum friend comes , pats me on the back and asks " how was boy you took last night from Hot Male?" 

[jason1975]

After Sauna Mania, I met my regular guy at Foodland for dinner.

"Why you no go my bar see me?"

"But I see you every day at Foodland. We eat dinner together."

"Come see me in my bar tonight."

Tonight I was alone because there wasn't any forum member around whom I can hang out with. I still hadn't decided which bar to go.

"If you want to go other bar, it's ok."

I explained that even if I go to his bar, I would not off him directly. I didn't want to deprive him of opportunities of being offed by customers. Last week I already met him long-time.

But the real reason I didn't want to go to his bar is I hated the feeling of jealously when I saw him with customers. To his credit, he had sensed it. He knew what to say instead to me.

"Come my bar see my friend. Help my friend. Buy drink for my friend."

OK. Tonight I will go to Freshboys.

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

But the real reason I didn't want to go to his bar is I hated the feeling of jealously when I saw him with customers. To his credit, he had sensed it. He knew what to say instead to me.

I completely understand this - especially if you see the guy that you have invested a lot of time and emotion (and 🤑) sitting and/or being offed by someone you know - it is very uncomfortable.  These are the dangers of getting emotionally intertwined with the local MBs.  When I was a tourist, it was easier, because there was a near "safety" expiration end date, when I would be on the airplane back to my home country - and consequently, my eyes would not be exposed to any of this based on the old adage:

This is the disadvantage of living here - as there is no escape like when we were a tourist.

[Min]

 

4 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I met my regular guy at Foodland for dinner.

"Why you no go my bar see me?"

"But I see you every day at Foodland. We eat dinner together."

"Come see me in my bar tonight."

I explained that even if I go to his bar, I would not off him directly. I didn't want to deprive him of opportunities of being offed by customers. Last week I already met him long-time.

You may want to try to look at it from the boy’s perspective. He might think that if you care for him, you would show up in his bar frequently, offing and/or buying him drinks, and by doing that, show others how popular he is, increasing his values and status in the bar. Several boys, once given a choice by me, 100B tip or one more drink (from which they get 50B), invariably go for one more drink to increase the total number of drinks they secure for the bar. This is not just about money.

The boy might even expect you to also buy drinks for his less fortunate friends, raising his status among those too.

In other words, giving him “face” in the bar may mean more to him than having dinner together every day. If you are not sure, have a heart-to-heart with him and see what he thinks, which would probably help you better balance between personal interactions and public display of support

[bkkmfj2648]

8 minutes ago, Min said:

You may want to try to look at it from the boy’s perspective. He might think that if you care for him, you would show up in his bar frequently, offing and/or buying him drinks, and by doing that, show others how popular he is, increasing his values and status in the bar. Several boys, once given a choice by me, 100B tip or one more drink (from which they get 50B), invariably go for one more drink to increase the total number of drinks they secure for the bar. This is not just about money.

The boy might even expect you to also buy drinks for his less fortunate friends, raising his status among those too.

Spot on @Min   It is all about raising their status in a very nice way that is great for the bar, his colleagues, and you - as in the Thai culture, everyone will remember you as Mr. Jai dii.

[Raposa]

1 hour ago, Min said:

 

You may want to try to look at it from the boy’s perspective. He might think that if you care for him, you would show up in his bar frequently, offing and/or buying him drinks, and by doing that, show others how popular he is, increasing his values and status in the bar. Several boys, once given a choice by me, 100B tip or one more drink (from which they get 50B), invariably go for one more drink to increase the total number of drinks they secure for the bar. This is not just about money.

The boy might even expect you to also buy drinks for his less fortunate friends, raising his status among those too.

In other words, giving him “face” in the bar may mean more to him than having dinner together every day. If you are not sure, have a heart-to-heart with him and see what he thinks, which would probably help you better balance between personal interactions and public display of support

I thing you’re right, Min. @jason1975 you remember we discussed the social dynamics within the bar and why I chose to buy garlands for the boy at Moonlight? Min has added some further good points to consider.

[jason1975]

Freshboys only had about 10 to 12 customers when I went in at 9.45pm. I asked for drinks menu and ordered a 1-litre of Chivas Regal whisky (4000 baht) with the intention of inviting guys to drink with me but I will tip them for their time.

It was first stage rotation. I saw my guy. OMG. He looked so hot barechested in his white shorts. I resisted calling him down to sit with me. I wanted to give him opportunity to be picked by other customers in audience. I recognised a Laos guy on stage and called him instead to sit and drink with me. A few minutes later, waiter came to me to say that I must buy a drink for the guy. But I already bought a bottle of whisky! That's how Jupiter works! Laos guy whispered to me that mamasan will be angry with him if I didn't buy him a drink. Sigh. I was left with no choice but to buy the 400 baht drink "300 baht go to bar, 100 baht I keep," Laos guy said to me.

Consequently, I didn't invite any other guy down to sit with me as I would need to buy them drinks. It was the bar's business model and I had to respect that.

At 10pm, the guys got off the stage and the show began with four coyote dancers. Then a diva ladyboy solo performance. After that came the graphic exposed performances that Freshboys is known for in Bangkok compared to the other bars. The first show ended at about 10.45pm after the big cock show by 5 guys. Throughout the first show, customers kept coming in and filling the bar.

For the 2nd stage rotation, the guys changed into white briefs. Very sexy. My regular guy got invited with another guy to sit with 2 Asian ladies and 1 guy. Jackpot! Somehow, this time round, I didn't feel jealous. He was just doing his job. It was surreal. He was hugging lady customer while two tables away, I was hugging Laos guy. We smiled knowingly at each other.

Alas, the Asian customers didn't off my guy. I found out later they were Vietnamese. He earned 100 baht from one drink plus he received a 100 baht tip from the customers. So he earned 200 baht tonight.

The guys at Freshboys do 4 stage rotations. Only the 2nd stage rotation do they appear in sexy briefs. They go back to wearing their white shorts for 3rd and 4th stage rotations.

I stayed until the bar closed at 1 am. About 15 guys left out of the 25 guys I saw at 10pm. I witnessed a waiter collecting drinks receipts from every guy while they were standing on stage. He went to bar counter to collect 100 baht notes then he went to the guys to pay them. Mamasan took out a big book and did a roll call. Once she called their numbers and ticked them off in her book, the guys went to get changed and could leave the bar.

I left the bar and went to Foodland. My guy joined me for supper together with Laos guy whom I had been seated with the whole night. We were also joined by number 41. The most recent trip reports in the forum on Dreamboys was about number 41 being the oldest. Well, this number 41 is not! He is 22. Vietnamese. Friend of my guy. I am glad the previous number 21 has retired!

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, jason1975 said:

. We were also joined by number 41. The most recent trip reports in the forum on Dreamboys was about number 41 being the oldest. Well, this number 41 is not! He is 22. Vietnamese. Friend of my guy. I am glad the previous number 21 has retired!

you mean 41 not 21 ? right ?

[colom-bien]

On 12/1/2024 at 1:31 AM, jason1975 said:

Had unforgettable Saturday. Started at 5pm with going Crowne Plaza Hotel for Crete Party. Waited for forum member then we went in together. Locals pay 4900 baht for event but foreigners pay 5500 baht. About 70 to 80 guests. Attired in all black as requested by organiser. 22 models, well known to locals. They appear in advertisements and shows in Thailand. Forum member and I don't know them but we can see their appeal. Some of the models were at entrance taking photos with guests. They were shirtless. I was enchanted by one model and asked him for a photo together and he obliged willingly. I felt like I was in heaven just standing next to him. The other models were also very handsome and hunky.

 

I just want to say thank you for such a detailed and enjoyable trip report. I'm learning so much and often feel like I'm right there with you. I will explore much of what you've written about on my next visit - the saunas, various bars, neighborhoods, etc. And the Crete Party was super interesting to experience through your eyes (and hands, haha). You are making me want to buy a ticket back to Thailand SOON! 

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Min said:

He might think that if you care for him, you would show up in his bar frequently, offing and/or buying him drinks, and by doing that, show others how popular he is, increasing his values and status in the bar. Several boys, once given a choice by me, 100B tip or one more drink (from which they get 50B), invariably go for one more drink to increase the total number of drinks they secure for the bar. 

The boy might even expect you to also buy drinks for his less fortunate friends, raising his status among those too.

In other words, giving him “face” in the bar may mean more ..........

this is exactly what I wanted to write but you were 8 hours faster, lol

9 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

  It is all about raising their status in a very nice way that is great for the bar, his colleagues, and you - as in the Thai culture, everyone will remember you as Mr. Jai dii.

 

7 hours ago, Raposa said:

I thing you’re right, Min. @jason1975 you remember we discussed the social dynamics within the bar and why I chose to buy garlands for the boy at Moonlight? 

I agree with reasoning of what all three of you expressed above,  but considering,  at end of day,  transactional  nature of our dealings with boys I sympathise with jason's reasoning more and I do the same.

We are not there to raise boy's status in the bar although it's nice if that happens as additional  result our our actions. We are there  to raise boys earnings in exchange for what they do (or don't do) for us.

Raising boys status by buying drinks to him and his 4 friends may be nice but is costs 2500 , out of that boys get 500 and bar 2000. That is not good use of our money , either hard earned or stolen from bank IMNSHO. 

Buying 1000 garland out of which boy gets 700 is show off and helps to rise his status but again it's not good use  or our money IMEMNSHO.

I get value of status and jai dee in boys eyes but when comes to money  I prefer to be paternalistic and I rather see boy, not bar ,  getting cash from me . Then he can do whatever he wants to raise his status.

Of course other members may look at it differently so hope Raposa  is not taking my comment as uninvited criticism for him buying garland at Moonlight but it that was me I would perform patented vinapu tuck on boy stuffing  1000 baht note in his undies in a way that all could see denomination sticking out. 

It reminds me scene from last trip in one of bars I visited with other member. He paid for our drinks and got 100 baht change , most  in coins. Shrewd move by the bar because of course he left them all that change - he did not want all that metal. As reward he got scolded by me and I'm not being apologetic here .

I told him such lavish tips should be awarded to boys who are parading in skimpy briefs for our enjoyment, not to waiter for just a bringing a drink or two for which 20 baht is sufficient IMNSHO  considering we tip 100 boy whose cock we can feel in our hand when they are parading after the show     

 

[vinapu]

6 minutes ago, colom-bien said:

I just want to say thank you for such a detailed and enjoyable trip report. I'm learning so much and often feel like I'm right there with you. I will explore much of what you've written about on my next visit - the saunas, various bars, neighborhoods, etc. And the Crete Party was super interesting to experience through your eyes (and hands, haha). You are making me want to buy a ticket back to Thailand SOON! 

+1

[jason1975]

For the past 10 days, almost every night at Foodland, there's been two gentlemen playing chess at table 8 (in middle of restaurant) from 7plus to 8.30pm while having dinner. Sometimes, other gentlemen would join in and they would play some games against these two gentlemen.

The two gentlemen are Yours Truly here and my regular guy. I had brought the chess set from Singapore because I have recently been reacquainted with the game due to the interest in chess in Singapore. Singapore is currently hosting the World Chess Championship between Gukesh (India) and Ding Liren (China) over two weeks.

I had read in forum about a Myanmar waiter at new Dragon and Koi bar holding a degree in physics so I thought I might bring a chess set on my trip and play against this waiter. Unfortunately, I found out after meeting him that he doesn't know how to play chess.

Fortunately, my regular guy spotted my chess set in my Airbnb condo when he came over for long-time session.

"After sex we play chess?" he asked.

I said sure and we played 3 games while on the bed (after showering of course) before dozing off.

Subsequently, we met at Foodland every evening at 7.30pm for dinner and chess. The staff at Foodland were surprised at first when they saw us doing this every evening but they got used to us and even remembered my food order which was wanton soup with pork and chicken cashew nuts without rice for me. My regular guy would try a different dish but with the same drink order of watermelon juice.

At 8.30pm, he would leave to report for work at Freshboys. I then kept the chess set into my bag and wandered off into night adventures.

Eventually, I discovered some other Vietnamese guys who can play chess as well. I believe they were introduced to the game back in school in Vietnam. There's a guy in Good Boys who's pretty good. Then, there are two other guys in Freshboys who can play. None of them is as good as my regular guy. He has beaten me several times. After 7 years of knowing him, we only discover our shared interest now. Better late than never!