floridarob Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 hours ago, reader said: every four years and payback’s a bitch. Except the Democrats always play nice, except when they fucked Bernie over TWICE, Michelle with her they go low, we go high BS was ridiculous..... we needed Bernie Sanders, he says what he thinks and doesn't change with the wind. vinapu, Londoner and Shonen 3 Quote
12is12 Posted November 12 Posted November 12 But majority of voters repudiate Bernie's progressive agenda. Harris couldnt shake off her similar previous views, which is why - on the whole - down ticket Dems faired better than she did. Quote
reader Posted November 12 Posted November 12 15 minutes ago, floridarob said: Except the Democrats always play nice Agree, And they have no one to blame but themselves. They had their shot and blew it. Shonen 1 Quote
floridarob Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 hour ago, 12is12 said: But majority of voters repudiate Bernie's progressive agenda. Harris couldnt shake off her similar previous views, which is why - on the whole - down ticket Dems faired better than she did. Health care for everyone in a country that has an obscene defense budget is brainwashing at it's best by the Pharmaceuticals and Insurance companies.... Quote
Londoner Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Turkeys voting for an early Christmas. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted November 12 Posted November 12 11 hours ago, sydneyboy1 said: Let’s not forget in an earlier saner moment JD Vance called Trump a fascist and another Hitler. So he speaks some sense! sydneyboy1, Patanawet, floridarob and 1 other 4 Quote
Keithambrose Posted November 12 Posted November 12 8 hours ago, vinapu said: Every law or treaty is only good as the will to upheld it so I wouldn't be too attached to statutes. See abortion rights in USA. No revolution ot coup d'etat was legal yet plenty of them were successfull. Dismantling of USSR was illegal too and here we are. Good point. vinapu 1 Quote
Shonen Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Trump won because of the border, economy, and foreign policy. Hard to overcome that with a very weak candidate who was unable to answer basic questions. Quote
caeron Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Look at Hillary. I think the election says more about misogyny and racism than it does about policy. She couldn't rally people because she lacked the right colored penis. Ruthrieston and floridarob 2 Quote
Popular Post AsianExplorer Posted November 12 Popular Post Posted November 12 As a foreigner, I have too many questions. 1st, how can a criminal be allowed to run for president? It is so unimaginable to me. 2nd, how people vote for a criminal, rather than Kamala, a well-qualified politician. I am just so mind-blown. t0oL1, sydneyboy1, a-447 and 3 others 6 Quote
Popular Post a-447 Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 1 hour ago, AsianExplorer said: 1st, how can a criminal be allowed to run for president? It is so unimaginable to me. Me, too. I'm wondering if there is another example of a candidate convicted of rape and fraud being allowed to stand for office in a democratic country. If you apply for a government job in the U.S. don't you have to declare your criminal record? If so, does Trump's election mean that this is no longer a requirement? How can a president who is a convicted criminal run the justice system? And how can the Supreme Court be biased in favour of a political party? How can someone who has been bankrupt at least 6 times run the economy? How can the military brass salute a commander in chief who is a criminal and who has never served in the armed forces? How can any self-respecting woman vote for a man who boasts about grabbing women by the pussy? That woman could well be their own daughter. Would they be willing to allow her to be alone in a room with Trump? The list goes on. All I can say is, my image of the U.S. as a beacon of democracy has changed completely. It is no longer the country I knew and respected as I was growing up. vinapu, floridarob, Ruthrieston and 3 others 5 1 Quote
floridarob Posted November 13 Posted November 13 8 hours ago, Shonen said: a very weak candidate who was unable to answer basic questions. Did you ever hear his answers to questions, they were just insults to the interviewer or pure gibberish. He and his own fake news kept saying 12 million came in under Biden, it's 12 million illegals in the US that have come in under several administrations, including his own. Americans have short memories, they forgot the shambles he left the country, if not almost the world his last go around. The last time a Republican won the popular vote was for Bush Jr, how did that work out. Trump is inheriting yet again a great economy....he'll destroy it, put the US in way more debt, and then leave it a mess and say he did a great job, Everyone I've run into while in Asia, can't believe we elected him again....neither can I. vinapu, Ruthrieston, BjornAgain and 1 other 4 Quote
reader Posted November 13 Posted November 13 4 hours ago, AsianExplorer said: 2nd, how people vote for a criminal, rather than Kamala, a well-qualified politician. There’s an oft-quoted biblical reference that helps explain this. “Give us Barabbas.” vinapu 1 Quote
Popular Post caeron Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 To our foreign friends, I think most of us are trying to understand it too. The only explanation is that most americans are selfish idiots with no understanding of economics who somehow believe when an orange idiot tells him he will save them from a failing economy (the economy is great actually), they believe him. It is the fatal flaw of democracy. If you let every idiot vote, they will. But fear not, they won't need to bother voting soon enough... As a rich white guy, I'm going to be fine, but I weep for the shithole my country has become. Those morons think America is great. They are wrong. Ruthrieston, t0oL1, floridarob and 2 others 5 Quote
reader Posted November 13 Posted November 13 13 minutes ago, caeron said: If you let every idiot vote, they will. But fear not, they won't need to bother voting soon enough... As a rich white guy, I'm going to be fine, but I weep for the shithole my country has become. Those morons think America is great. They are wrong. Sounds like you’re suggesting a literacy test for right to vote? Quote
a-447 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 I'd like to think that those who voted from him are simply deluded - or just plain simple. They believe that Trump actually cares about them but it reality he couldn't give a shit about those who voted for him - most of whom he considers losers. And they obviously believe that Trump would hang out with them in real life. Just wait until another pandemic comes and they are denied access to vaccines. Or until tariffs are applied to foreign goods and prices rise, along with inflation. The most frightening thing is all is watching him choose his administration from a motely bunch of characters whose only qualification for the job is their loyalty to Trump, rather than to the constitution. I mean, what other country would appoint a TV presenter as Secretary of Defence and put him in charge of a trillion dollar budget? The guy hasn't run anything in his life. floridarob, Moses, Ruthrieston and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Patanawet Posted November 13 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, reader said: Sounds like you’re suggesting a literacy test for right to vote? Trump loves the uneducated. If your result of the suggested literacy test show you to be educated and literate, then you can be barred from voting. Quote
vinapu Posted November 13 Posted November 13 4 hours ago, caeron said: Those morons think America is great. They are wrong. Compared to Haiti or Afghanistan, certainly Quote
vinapu Posted November 13 Posted November 13 4 hours ago, reader said: Sounds like you’re suggesting a literacy test for right to vote? Likely no, as there are zillions od very literate idiots world over Quote
Keithambrose Posted November 13 Posted November 13 Just now, vinapu said: Likely no, as there are zillions od very literate idiots world over Indeed, it's not sensible to write off Trump supporters as morons, some of them, regrettably, are highly intelligent. Patanawet and floridarob 2 Quote
caeron Posted November 13 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, vinapu said: Compared to Haiti or Afghanistan, certainly damned by faint praise. Quote
Shonen Posted November 13 Posted November 13 I voted for trump, but I knew it was a waste of time as we have an electoral college system, meaning my state was voting for Harris guaranteed. And it did. Everyone is pissed at me but so what. I’ve found my democratic friends to be more biased an uneducated from this election. We have huge inflation now, and the Dems refused to acknowledge this. The people cannot afford homes. I understand their anger. Plus Biden has dementia or something, and this was hidden. Not good. Don’t forget Clinton had sex with an intern, so we’re used to this. Quote
Popular Post Keithambrose Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 8 minutes ago, Shonen said: I voted for trump, but I knew it was a waste of time as we have an electoral college system, meaning my state was voting for Harris guaranteed. And it did. Everyone is pissed at me but so what. I’ve found my democratic friends to be more biased an uneducated from this election. We have huge inflation now, and the Dems refused to acknowledge this. The people cannot afford homes. I understand their anger. Plus Biden has dementia or something, and this was hidden. Not good. Don’t forget Clinton had sex with an intern, so we’re used to this. Er, inflation is down, it was never huge, jobs are up, and Trump will make sure that only the rich can afford homes. Good luck with your serial adulterer and felon. I assume that you are one of the wealthy, who will profit, God help you if you are poor. After all, per Trump, if you're poor its your fault. Ruthrieston, vinapu, khaolakguy and 2 others 5 Quote
reader Posted November 13 Posted November 13 Literacy tests were used in the south to deny blacks the right to vote. Once we start hating and denigrating those who voted differently than ourselves, we become like them in every way imaginable. Shonen 1 Quote
Moses Posted November 13 Posted November 13 7 hours ago, a-447 said: I mean, what other country would appoint a TV presenter as Secretary of Defence and put him in charge of a trillion dollar budget? The guy hasn't run anything in his life. I know of one country that elected a cocaine-addicted comedian who plays the piano with his penis as its president. But in general you are 100% right. Quote