spoon Posted November 13 Posted November 13 Previously, when trump won the presidential race but lose the popular vote, everyone questioned the electoral vote system. This time around, he won both. Cant blame the system now for Harris' lost. Its clear that majority of Americans who voted, didnt vote for her. Instead, democracy system itself becomes the target. If majority of the citizens/voters, are criminal, they will vote the most evil to the top, and vice versa. And not to forget, the options the americans are left with, to choose lesser between two evils one might say. For some, who already made their mind, the choice might be obvious, but if you are on the fence, its a sophie's choice at its greatest. All im saying is, when the results are out, its better to look forward and analysed what really happened. For me, its clear that the republicans, with trump as the lead, are more successful in convincing those who are on the fence, to vote for them. Democrats played their women card one too many, and lived in their own bubble too, failing to even see the possibilities of a huge losses in several key states, convinced that no voters in their right mind will vote for trump. But well, they did. Another group that one might want to analyze are the new voters, those who were below 21 during last elections. These are the young ones, mostly university students, who are seen protesting the current government on their frivolous defence spending in middle east tension. While republican might still do the same, as we have seen in the past, both sides has been quite consistent who they ally with, the fact that the worst yet war there happened during Democrats watch definitely affects their vote. vinapu and Shonen 2 Quote
Popular Post Travellover Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 3 hours ago, Shonen said: I voted for trump, but I knew it was a waste of time as we have an electoral college system, meaning my state was voting for Harris guaranteed. And it did. Everyone is pissed at me but so what. I’ve found my democratic friends to be more biased an uneducated from this election. We have huge inflation now, and the Dems refused to acknowledge this. The people cannot afford homes. I understand their anger. Plus Biden has dementia or something, and this was hidden. Not good. Don’t forget Clinton had sex with an intern, so we’re used to this. Just for your information, inflation has been a big problem in Europe and in other parts of the world during the last years after Covid. It has not been an American problem only but a global issue. I believe that in the US, people do not really look what is happening around the world but are only caring about what is happening at home. vinapu, llz, floridarob and 3 others 6 Quote
khaolakguy Posted November 13 Posted November 13 2 hours ago, Moses said: I know of one country that elected a cocaine-addicted comedian who plays the piano with his penis as its president. But in general you are 100% right. Putin can play the piano?! Is there no end to his abilities...... floridarob, Ruthrieston and vinapu 1 2 Quote
Moses Posted November 13 Posted November 13 17 minutes ago, khaolakguy said: Putin can play the piano?! Putin can play piano, there are some of his vids on youtube, but I meant Zelenskiy and his famous concert: Quote
floridarob Posted November 13 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, Travellover said: I believe that in the US, people do not really look what is happening around the world What % even have a passport....they have no clue.... sad. Last time Republicans won electoral and popular vote, was Bush Jr....how'd that turn out? Again Trump is being handed a great economy, let's see him fuck it up again. Actually, Democrats are the ones that seem to get economies in order only for a Republican to come and mess it up...time and time again. Ruthrieston, sydneyboy1, Patanawet and 1 other 4 Quote
kram987 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 8 hours ago, Moses said: I know of one country that elected a cocaine-addicted comedian who plays the piano with his penis as its president. But in general you are 100% right. i want to watch this Quote
caeron Posted November 14 Posted November 14 21 hours ago, reader said: Sounds like you’re suggesting a literacy test for right to vote? I wish we could force people to take a civics exam before counting their vote. Too corruptible a thing, but I wish people had to show they have some idea about how things work instead of the moronic, "I like him. I'd have a beer with him." Quote
caeron Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Presidents have little power over inflation or the economy. Trump won't change much unless he really does go full tariff and our economy tanks in a trade war. Fortunately for me, the republicans solution to all problems is tax cuts for the rich and businesses. I'll do great. Those who think he's going to save them, not so much. People want change. They may decide the status quo wasn't so bad when the house burns to ground. Pedophile for Attorney General. Dog killer for Homeland Security. A Fox news reporter for Defense Secretary. Quote
Popular Post spoon Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, caeron said: Fortunately for me, the republicans solution to all problems is tax cuts for the rich and businesses. I'll do great. Those who think he's going to save them, not so much. Thats why trump is a genius in his own twisted world. He managed to convince the poor that by making the rich richer, theyll be better. Hard to do that with a str8 face. vinapu, khaolakguy, Ruthrieston and 2 others 5 Quote
reader Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Have very good leftie friend who voted for Biden for very same reason (down to earth guy I could have beers with). Being moronic is equal opportunity decision. I wholeheartedly share your frustration with outcome but it’s in rear view mirror now. I have much more important things I want to do in my life than brood on it. As Floridarob and others pointed out, Dems took high road and fell off cliff. They were simply outplayed and outmaneuvered. As for Trump’s appointments, would not be shocked to see some pushback from Senate republicans on some confirmation votes, Gaetz in particular. Quote
vinapu Posted November 14 Posted November 14 11 minutes ago, caeron said: Pedophile for Attorney General. Dog killer for Homeland Security. A Fox news reporter for Defense Secretary. That is certainly part of plan to make America great again Ruthrieston and t0oL1 2 Quote
caeron Posted November 14 Posted November 14 I thought the Dems should have gone for the jugular when Biden got voted in, but he lacked the balls to match republican tactics. Londoner 1 Quote
AsianExplorer Posted November 14 Posted November 14 21 hours ago, Shonen said: We have huge inflation now, and the Dems refused to acknowledge this. The inflation is global due to the pandemic and as far as I know, Biden did some bill called the inflation reduction bill and it worked. US inflation was low among G7 countries. I don't know how is that called Biden refused to acknowledge this. Patanawet 1 Quote
AsianExplorer Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Another thing I heard a lot among Trump voters is the tariff. It seems that they don't understand how tariffs work. Many interviewees said foreign countries pay the tariff. I was like???? and they believe the tariff will benefit the economy and help the inflation??????? Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted November 14 Posted November 14 21 hours ago, reader said: Literacy tests were used in the south to deny blacks the right to vote. Once we start hating and denigrating those who voted differently than ourselves, we become like them in every way imaginable. I seem to recall that blacks were show a script in Japanese, or similar, to make sure they failed. A southern chain of stores, Piggly Wiggly, is currently being sued for refusing to hire black workers. Quote
Shonen Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Many pointing to global inflation. The border and foreign policy were also big factors. Probably the biggest mistake by Harris was not going on Joe Rogans podcast. Quote
floridarob Posted November 14 Posted November 14 6 hours ago, Shonen said: The border They (right wing media) kept saying 12 million came in under Biden/Harris..... that's the total, supposedly in the US. After SEVERAL administrations. Average is about 2 million a year.... but, people believe the fear/hate over facts 🤷♂️ Quote
Keithambrose Posted November 14 Posted November 14 24 minutes ago, floridarob said: They (right wing media) kept saying 12 million came in under Biden/Harris..... that's the total, supposedly in the US. After SEVERAL administrations. Average is about 2 million a year.... but, people believe the fear/hate over facts 🤷♂️ Negative news is always easier to sell. And as Dr Goebbels said, if you say something often enough, people will believe it. Especially on issues like immigration, where a lot of people want to believe it. Same over here in UK, during Brexit debate. Britain for the British, take back control etc. Relentless negative campaigning works! floridarob, AsianExplorer and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
Londoner Posted November 15 Posted November 15 It didn't help that Biden was embarrassingly timid in dealing with the deranged and psychopathic Netanyahu. The genocide and US support for it may not have been decisive but the world's super-power being treated with such contempt by a country that it has funded, excused and cossetted for decades was not a good look. vinapu, Ruthrieston and floridarob 3 Quote
Members sydneyboy1 Posted November 15 Members Posted November 15 On 11/14/2024 at 6:36 AM, Moses said: Putin can play piano, there are some of his vids on youtube, but I meant Zelenskiy and his famous concert: As an aside I think Zelenskyy is rather cute. vinapu and reader 2 Quote
Popular Post reader Posted November 15 Popular Post Posted November 15 36 minutes ago, sydneyboy1 said: As an aside I think Zelenskyy is rather cute. Perhaps Moses is a bit jealous. His president can’t play the piano with any of his extremities and is definitely not cute. vinapu, floridarob, khaolakguy and 2 others 3 2 Quote
Members sydneyboy1 Posted November 15 Members Posted November 15 10 minutes ago, reader said: Perhaps Moses is a bit jealous. His president can’t play the piano with any of his extremities is definitely not cute. There is a very nice photo on line of Zelenskyy with his shirt off having his first Covid shot. Quote
Moses Posted November 15 Posted November 15 4 hours ago, reader said: Perhaps Moses is a bit jealous. His president can’t play the piano with any of his extremities and is definitely not cute. jealous of a cocaine addict? no thanks Quote
a-447 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 7 hours ago, sydneyboy1 said: As an aside I think Zelenskyy is rather cute. Me, too. Unfortunately, he's standing too close to the piano, if you get my drift! Quote
