If the election is about the economy, stupid, does Trump win?

[stevenkesslar]

I thought this was interesting and encouraging for Harris supporters:

Harris pushes economy as Trump’s advantage shrinks

That article links to another Politico article that states this:

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On Friday, the latest Marist poll found that among Pennsylvania independents — perhaps the whole ballgame — Harris had overtaken Trump on the economy, seeing a 19-point shift in which candidate they think is better fit to handle it, with Harris beating Trump 55 percent to 40 percent. In September, that same measure saw Trump edging Harris 49 percent to 45 percent.

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Other polls this week, too, show Trump’s lead shrinking on the economy, voters’ professed top issue. (A Washington Post poll had Trump still ahead on who can better handle the economy, but with the gap narrowing from a 9 percentage point advantage to a 5 point edge.

That later statement is in line with what David Plouffe says, based on supposedly better insider private polls.   Their efforts have paid off, in that the  gap on the economy has narrowed.  

That said, the overwhelming takeaway from almost every poll I have seen is that the economy and immigration hurt Harris, and abortion and concerns about democracy help her.

There's been a lot of debate about whether Harris is screwing up by talking too much about "Trump unhinged" versus talking about the economy.

While it is both/and rather than either/or, I fall in the camp that thinks the following.  If the election is about the economy, Trump wins.  If the election is about Trump, Trump loses.  Right now, today, the election is about the unhinged stuff Trump is saying.  The fact that he made such stupid unforced errors just as people who have been tuned out are tuning in reinforces just how unhinged he is.  I'd rather have undecided voters thinking about what Trump meant when he said something about somebody shooting Liz Cheney in the face.

That said, it pleased me that a recent poll asked voters what specific policy ideas would make you more likely to support a candidate. In that poll, Harris's expanded child tax credits were #2 on the list of most popular ideas that would make voters more likely to vote for a candidate.  With #1 being Trump's idea of drilling more oil and gas and making America more energy independent.  Some of her specific ideas seem to be getting through to the working class people, including Trump voters, those child tax credits helped when inflation was raging.

Clintonista strategist Doug Sosnik said earlier this year, when Biden was the apparent nominee, that if this election is about the economy, Trump probably wins.  He cited the huge percentage of voters (most of whom are Trump supporters) who say we're on the wrong track. He said if it is about whether people want more Trump crazy, Trump loses.  When asked by Bill Kristol which was more likely, Sosnik guessed the election would be about whether people want four more years of crazy.   I think it's turned out Sosnik was right.

If so, Harris wins.

[Suckrates]

13 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

I thought this was interesting and encouraging for Harris supporters:

Harris pushes economy as Trump’s advantage shrinks

That article links to another Politico article that states this:

That later statement is in line with what David Plouffe says, based on supposedly better insider private polls.   Their efforts have paid off, in that the  gap on the economy has narrowed.  

That said, the overwhelming takeaway from almost every poll I have seen is that the economy and immigration hurt Harris, and abortion and concerns about democracy help her.

There's been a lot of debate about whether Harris is screwing up by talking too much about "Trump unhinged" versus talking about the economy.

While it is both/and rather than either/or, I fall in the camp that thinks the following.  If the election is about the economy, Trump wins.  If the election is about Trump, Trump loses.  Right now, today, the election is about the unhinged stuff Trump is saying.  The fact that he made such stupid unforced errors just as people who have been tuned out are tuning in reinforces just how unhinged he is.  I'd rather have undecided voters thinking about what Trump meant when he said something about somebody shooting Liz Cheney in the face.

That said, it pleased me that a recent poll asked voters what specific policy ideas would make you more likely to support a candidate. In that poll, Harris's expanded child tax credits were #2 on the list of most popular ideas that would make voters more likely to vote for a candidate.  With #1 being Trump's idea of drilling more oil and gas and making America more energy independent.  Some of her specific ideas seem to be getting through to the working class people, including Trump voters, those child tax credits helped when inflation was raging.

Clintonista strategist Doug Sosnik said earlier this year, when Biden was the apparent nominee, that if this election is about the economy, Trump probably wins.  He cited the huge percentage of voters (most of whom are Trump supporters) who say we're on the wrong track. He said if it is about whether people want more Trump crazy, Trump loses.  When asked by Bill Kristol which was more likely, Sosnik guessed the election would be about whether people want four more years of crazy.   I think it's turned out Sosnik was right.

If so, Harris wins.

More IFs and skewed polls.   Polls depend on the interests of the pollsters and the message they want to circulate.   So I have stopped reading polls because if I went by the polls, Trump AND Harris have already won..... 4 days to go, and to know if our nightmare will be ending, OR just beginning. 

[stevenkesslar]

15 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

More IFs and skewed polls.   Polls depend on the interests of the pollsters and the message they want to circulate.   So I have stopped reading polls because if I went by the polls, Trump AND Harris have already won..... 4 days to go, and to know if our nightmare will be ending, OR just beginning. 

I mostly agree.   

First, this is something only political junkies care about.  Most people are not following polls.  At Thanksgiving last year we somehow got into a discussion about what website we scan first every morning.  I answered "Politico."  One of my relatives, who is a very smart professor who cares about politics, said, "Ugh!"  That said, when Biden resigned I was the person she texted to find out what it meant.   I said Harris will take his place, and it will be better.   She does not follow polls.  Most people don't want to ride the pollercoaster.

Second, I think what most pollsters say consistently is that the trend does matter.  So if this measures a trend where voters are generally improving their rating of how Harris would manage the economy, which is what seems to have happened gradually, that matters.

Third, I think Harris has won already, simply because Lichtman has already predicted it.  The most critical I can be of him is he was wrong in 2000, when it came down to a handful of votes in one state.  So if it comes down to a handful of votes in one state, like Pennsylvania, all bets are off. 

I will repost this chart I have been mostly using for the stock market all year.  The bullish stock market also seems to predict a Harris victory, as Politico just noted.  This chart looks exactly like what the market looks like in a year when the incumbent party wins.  In fact, the S & P has done even better than the average year when the incumbent party wins.  If the incumbent party were going to lose, the S& P should be limping along right now.   Like in an average year when the incumbent party loses, right now S & P returns should be negative.   Not +20 %.   

So if I had to pick some tool to predict who will win, I would NOT pick polls. I'd pick Lichtman, and the stock market.  But the trend does seem to be that Harris is looked on more favorably, and as a better manager of the economy, compared to when she jumped in the race.  All of these are good signs for Kamala.

 

[Moses]

Wealthy Americans run from US

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/01/wealthy-americans-plans-leaving-united-states.html

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A survey by Arton Capital, which advises the wealthy on immigration programs, found that 53% of American millionaires say they’re more likely to leave the U.S. after the election, no matter who wins.

Younger millionaires were the most likely to leave, with 64% of millionaires between 18 and 29 saying they were “very interested” in seeking so-called golden visas through a residency-by-investment program overseas.

 

[stevenkesslar]

1 hour ago, Moses said:

Wealthy Americans run from US

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/01/wealthy-americans-plans-leaving-united-states.html

 

I am shocked!

What really surprised me is that most wealthy Americans want to move to either Russia, or North Korea.  Who knew? 😲

Apparently there is some fear that if they move to Russia their money will be confiscated by Genocide Man, who will send them to the front to be processed into meat.  And while the wealthy don't give a shit about America, or democracy, they seem to have a hang up about being slaughtered.  So the #1 destination turns out to be North Korea. Apparently the food is better.  And it is easier to bribe Rocket Man so he does not send you to Genocide World to be processed into meat.  Apparently there is a growing shortage of Russians who want to be processed into meat by Genocide Man.  Who knew?

Mark Cuban will be the first to go.  He hates strong women who vote for Trump.   I bet he'll love living in Kim World.  Maybe with a visa to Genocide World for fun and kicks?  If you like strong men, it is double the fun.

Now, back to reality.

It sounds like these wealthy families have all sorts of nonpolitical reasons to move to the Caribbean, or someplace warm and friendly.   If there is a main "political" reason, the article says several times it is a trend that started with COVID.  Although part of it is "political unrest", which makes sense.

On the face of it, I would reach two conclusions, both of which are weak.

First, this is another indicator of a Harris victory.  It does not make sense to me that billionaires want to leave right before a massive tax cut hog feed that will blow up the deficit, just like Trump did in his first term.  Harris, on the other hand, will raise their taxes to help the working class, if she has the votes.  That said, it also makes sense that the ultra-rich have so much wealth that they just care more about political instability.  And they don't want four more years of crazy.

Second, it reinforces the idea that a lot of wealthy Americans are not particularly loyal to America.  Working class factory workers who vote for Trump don't have the option of buying a mansion in Antigua and investing a quarter million to get citizenship.  It's yet one more data point that if the Democratic Party wants to win, broadly, they need to dump "LatinX" and what are seen as extreme "culture war" positions and refocus on economic populism.  Tax the rich!  It is a wildly popular policy.   And they are more interested in moving to Antigua than staying around and fighting for the American values - LIBERAL DEMOCRACY AND CAPITALISM - they say they stand for.

Which is one of the very best things about Genocide World.  Rich people there can argue that we need democracy.  And we need Genocide Man to pay more taxes.   They don't have to worry about which country to move to.  Putin will simply choose a  prison cell or toxic poison for them.

[Moses]

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

confiscated by Genocide Man

For the blue lemmings who repeat unfamiliar words like parrots, here is a map of those who support the word "genocide", they are marked in blue...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

and to this day no court in the world has agreed with this word... even in these blue countries

 

[Moses]

Stevie, I feel for you: you can't deny the facts about the US that I bring here, and you have to distract from them by switching to Russia... This forum thread is about the US, and you keep knocking it off topic

[Moses]

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

this is another indicator of a Harris victory

what will you write here if trump wins? delete your account and start a new one?

[KeepItReal]

5 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

I thought this was interesting and encouraging for Harris supporters:

Harris pushes economy as Trump’s advantage shrinks

That article links to another Politico article that states this:

That later statement is in line with what David Plouffe says, based on supposedly better insider private polls.   Their efforts have paid off, in that the  gap on the economy has narrowed.  

That said, the overwhelming takeaway from almost every poll I have seen is that the economy and immigration hurt Harris, and abortion and concerns about democracy help her.

There's been a lot of debate about whether Harris is screwing up by talking too much about "Trump unhinged" versus talking about the economy.

While it is both/and rather than either/or, I fall in the camp that thinks the following.  If the election is about the economy, Trump wins.  If the election is about Trump, Trump loses.  Right now, today, the election is about the unhinged stuff Trump is saying.  The fact that he made such stupid unforced errors just as people who have been tuned out are tuning in reinforces just how unhinged he is.  I'd rather have undecided voters thinking about what Trump meant when he said something about somebody shooting Liz Cheney in the face.

That said, it pleased me that a recent poll asked voters what specific policy ideas would make you more likely to support a candidate. In that poll, Harris's expanded child tax credits were #2 on the list of most popular ideas that would make voters more likely to vote for a candidate.  With #1 being Trump's idea of drilling more oil and gas and making America more energy independent.  Some of her specific ideas seem to be getting through to the working class people, including Trump voters, those child tax credits helped when inflation was raging.

Clintonista strategist Doug Sosnik said earlier this year, when Biden was the apparent nominee, that if this election is about the economy, Trump probably wins.  He cited the huge percentage of voters (most of whom are Trump supporters) who say we're on the wrong track. He said if it is about whether people want more Trump crazy, Trump loses.  When asked by Bill Kristol which was more likely, Sosnik guessed the election would be about whether people want four more years of crazy.   I think it's turned out Sosnik was right.

If so, Harris wins.

I was watching MAGA supporters attempt to talk up support for former Pres Trump on CNBC this week.  They are making the case that a Trump presidency will be better for the economy.  Problem is, beyond "tax breaks for the rich" there is very little in terms of policies to talk about.  So they fall down under scrutiny. Not a good look.

[Suckrates]

1 hour ago, KeepItReal said:

I was watching MAGA supporters attempt to talk up support for former Pres Trump on CNBC this week.  They are making the case that a Trump presidency will be better for the economy.  Problem is, beyond "tax breaks for the rich" there is very little in terms of policies to talk about.  So they fall down under scrutiny. Not a good look.

I also listened to the MAGA Morons making excuses for Trump, some saying that "he is the Only one that will keep them safe"..... SAFE FROM WHAT  ????   And yet then they CANT explain how HE will do it ?    It seems they just latched onto to his rally talking points, where he never explains how he will do anything, just makes claims over and over again.   Guess that strategy worked ?  

[stevenkesslar]

7 hours ago, Moses said:

Stevie, I feel for you: you can't deny the facts about the US that I bring here, and you have to distract from them by switching to Russia... This forum thread is about the US, and you keep knocking it off topic

I'm not denying any facts whatsoever.  You are.

The problem with the US right now is that everybody wants to get IN.   The problem with Genocide World is that everyone wants to get OUT. Genocide World is a rotting murderous piece of shit country that is going to collapse.  You are a shit hole.  Sorry.  You don't have freedom.  You have a shit economy.  You turn your people into meat.  These are just facts.

Yes, too many poor people desperately want into the US because it means freedom and prosperity and hope.  Even first generation immigrants, Mexican Americans, are pissed off that it is just TOO MANY PEOPLE who want IN.  Meanwhile, anyone with talent in Russia wants OUT.  Because they don't want to be processed into meat by Genocide Man.  These are just facts.   Genocide Man has to get Crazy Kim to send his people over to be processed into meat.  And we know that Crazy Kim is not sending his best.  😉

So you can trash wealthy Americans all you want.  Because it is what undemocratic authoritarian Russia WILL NEVER HAVE.  Eat your heart out, you genocide freak. Your piece of shit country is going to collapse.  And you deserve it.  Because you are the land of genocide, rot, and death.

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The United States has a much larger GDP than Russia: 

 

• GDP

  In 2022, the US GDP was $25,744.11 billion, while Russia's GDP was $2,272.26 billion. 

   
• GDP growth rate

  In 2023, the US GDP growth rate was 2.54%, while Russia's GDP growth rate was -2.07% in 2022. 

The problem in the US is there are far too many rich Americans in states like where I live, California, who are fabulously wealthy because right now, as The Economist said, the US economy is the envy of the world.  So even liberal Democrats like Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom are timid about raising taxes to help the working class.  So some of the US White working class is having a nice little failing peasant's revolt with Trump. 

The Democrats could solve this problem by raising taxes on the rich to help the working class.  Trump won't do it because he is a lying selfish piece of shit. Harris is afraid to do it, too, because her donors are Silicon Valley fat cats.   So this is a problem.  And you are right. When she wins, and if she has the votes to raise taxes on billionaires,  some of these rich Americans who have little or no real loyalty to America will leave.  Boo hoo!  These are facts.

Meanwhile. you live in Genocide World.   You can't even think of having a peasant's revolt, because Putin would kill them all.  All he has to do is send them to the front to be processed into meat. These are facts.  Everyone knows it.  You have no democracy. You have no freedom.  Even your murderous sadist leader is afraid of having to force his own people into going to the front to be slaughtered.  And your economy, which is running out of wealth, now depends completely on the slaughter of Russians.  You have to kill or injure something like 700,000 Russians just to keep the piece of shit Russian economy from collapsing.

So eat your heart out, genocide freak.  Go ahead and try to convince me that it is a problem that some rich Americans, who are free to do what they want, want to go live in Antigua or San Miguel or wherever.  Because they sure as fuck don't even want to set foot in your worthless shit hole of a country, which is drenched in blood and going to collapse.  You deserve it, genocide freak.  Eat your heart out that you will never have our wealth, our power, our freedom, or our prestige. Because your sadistic leader is Genocide Man.

[Suckrates]

3 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

I'm not denying any facts whatsoever.  You are.

The problem with the US right now is that everybody wants to get IN.   The problem with Genocide World is that everyone wants to get OUT. Genocide World is a rotting murderous piece of shit country that is going to collapse.  You are a shit hole.  Sorry.  You don't have freedom.  You have a shit economy.  You turn your people into meat.  These are just facts.

Yes, too many poor people desperately want into the US because it means freedom and prosperity and hope.  Even first generation immigrants, Mexican Americans, are pissed off that it is just TOO MANY PEOPLE who want IN.  Meanwhile, anyone with talent in Russia wants OUT.  Because they don't want to be processed into meat by Genocide Man.  These are just facts.   Genocide Man has to get Crazy Kim to send his people over to be processed into meat.  And we know that Crazy Kim is not sending his best.  😉

So you can trash wealthy Americans all you want.  Because it is what undemocratic authoritarian Russia WILL NEVER HAVE.  Eat your heart out, you genocide freak. Your piece of shit country is going to collapse.  And you deserve it.  Because you are the land of genocide, rot, and death.

The problem in the US is there are far too many rich Americans in states like where I live, California, who are fabulously wealthy because right now, as The Economist said, the US economy is the envy of the world.  So even liberal Democrats like Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom are timid about raising taxes to help the working class.  So some of the US White working class is having a nice little failing peasant's revolt with Trump. 

The Democrats could solve this problem by raising taxes on the rich to help the working class.  Trump won't do it because he is a lying selfish piece of shit. Harris is afraid to do it, too, because her donors are Silicon Valley fat cats.   So this is a problem.  And you are right. When she wins, and if she has the votes to raise taxes on billionaires,  some of these rich Americans who have little or no real loyalty to America will leave.  Boo hoo!  These are facts.

Meanwhile. you live in Genocide World.   You can't even think of having a peasant's revolt, because Putin would kill them all.  All he has to do is send them to the front to be processed into meat. These are facts.  Everyone knows it.  You have no democracy. You have no freedom.  Even your murderous sadist leader is afraid of having to force his own people into going to the front to be slaughtered.  And your economy, which is running out of wealth, now depends completely on the slaughter of Russians.  You have to kill or injure something like 700,000 Russians just to keep the piece of shit Russian economy from collapsing.

So eat your heart out, genocide freak.  Go ahead and try to convince me that it is a problem that some rich Americans, who are free to do what they want, want to go live in Antigua or San Miguel or wherever.  Because they sure as fuck don't even want to set foot in your worthless shit hole of a country, which is drenched in blood and going to collapse.  You deserve it, genocide freak.  Eat your heart out that you will never have our wealth, our power, our freedom, or our prestige. Because your sadistic leader is Genocide Man.

 

Golly Gee Sis,  sounds like a rally @ Madison Sq Garden !     WOW..........😵

[Moses]

16 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

In 2022, the US GDP was $25,744.11 billion, while Russia's GDP was $2,272.26 billion. 

US exists 300+ years, Russia 30+

[Moses]

16 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

Genocide World

Here is map of countries where courts recognized genocide, they are marked RED:

[unicorn]

5 hours ago, Moses said:

US exists 300+ years, Russia 30+

The US has yet to celebrate its semiquincentennial (though it's coming soon). 

[unicorn]

On 11/2/2024 at 6:19 PM, Moses said:

...and to this day no court in the world has agreed with this word...

The ICJ case is ongoing, however, "On 16 March 2022, the court ruled 13–2 that Russia must "immediately suspend the military operations" it commenced on 24 February 2022 in Ukraine, with Vice-President Kirill Gevorgian of Russia and Judge Xue Hanqin of China dissenting."

[Moses]

1 hour ago, unicorn said:

The ICJ case is ongoing

Well, there are no word "genocide". And ICC has as much jurisdiction over Russia as he has over penguins in Antarctica.

[stevenkesslar]

On 11/3/2024 at 1:50 AM, stevenkesslar said:

In 2022, the US GDP was $25,744.11 billion, while Russia's GDP was $2,272.26 billion.

 

17 hours ago, Moses said:

US exists 300+ years, Russia 30+

 

That's my point.   Genocide freak. 

You just don't get it, do you?

For all our flaws, the United States is a democratic capitalist country that is resilient and strong.  In one day we will elect our first Black Asian American female President, a symbol of the strong and prosperous multi-racial liberal capitalist democracy we are becoming.

What was the Soviet Union? A failed state.  It collapsed of its own rot.

What are YOU becoming?  GENOCIDE WORLD.  A piece of shit country with an economy that processes its own people into meat and invades the neighbor you claim to love.  And slaughters the women and children you consider your own.  Genocide freak.   What do you have?  A sadistic mass murdering authoritarian leader nobody wants to be ruled by.  No freedom.   Oppose Genocide Man and you get prison or poison.

And you come here to deny genocide, and pretend it does not exist.  Genocide freak.

I'm grateful to your sadistic mass murdering awful piece of shit leader.  You are stuck with Putin.  You are stuck with how he is trashing your economy and destroying your wealth and prestige and processing his own people into meat.

He has been a big part of the noise and conflict in America.  A Republican, Bob Mueller, proved this and documented the interference of Russia in our elections. 

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.  So what happened?   More people vote than ever.  Democracy, while in conflict, is alive and well. We are having a free and passionate democratic fight about who we want to be, and what we stand for.  Putin, a sadistic corrupt piece of shit monster, has made America stronger.  And forced us to fight for what we want to be.  Sadly, he has created a genocide in Ukraine.  Monster!  That is who he is.  That is what he does.  You are stuck with your monster and rot and death..

We're winning, you're losing.   Because your leader is Genocide Man, and he is turning your country into Genocide World.  Nobody wants to be you. Nobody wants to live in your hell hole.

Seemingly everybody wants to live here.  In the United States of America.  Yes, it creates some problems.  But tomorrow we will elect the child of immigrants, a symbol of the multi-racial liberal democratic society we have fought for, and are becoming.  Eat your heart out, genocide freak.

 

[unicorn]

10 hours ago, Moses said:

Well, there are no word "genocide". And ICC has as much jurisdiction over Russia as he has over penguins in Antarctica.

Well, it does have jurisdiction, though obviously no enforcement powers of its own over a permanent member of the security council.

[Moses]

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

Genocide freak. 

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

Genocide freak.

poor Steeeeveeee... you repeat words... 

 

Steeeeeveeee... what you will do if Trump will win tomorrow?

[Moses]

1 hour ago, unicorn said:

Well, it does have jurisdiction

Nope. It has jurisdiction only in countries which signed and ratified Rome statute... 

[stevenkesslar]

45 minutes ago, Moses said:

Steeeeeveeee... what you will do if Trump will win tomorrow?

That's a no brainer.   Did you watch the video above?   What I will do, and what happens if Trump wins, is actually  the same reason Harris will win.

"STAND UP."

Oh!  So sorry!  I forgot.

You can't do that in Genocide World.  You have no idea what it means. You just come here to defend genocide.

Full List of Putin Critics Who Have Died in Mysterious Circumstances

In Ukraine, a city grieves for a family killed in a deadly Russian missile attack.

[Moses]

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

Ukraine, a city grieves for a family killed in a deadly Russian missile attack.

Steeveee, for one US nuclear strike on Japan, 16 times more civilians died in Japan than as a result of 2.5 years of conflict in Ukraine...

Nobody believes your fake moans, you'd better repent and apologize to the Japanese

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

 

Nobody believes your fake moans, 

The issue is nobody believes you.   And nobody supports your defense of genocide and Genocide Man.

I wonder whether you believe your own defense of genocide.  Or whether you are even a person.  Can I call you Genocide Bot?

Russian disinformation accelerates toward the election

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As with previous campaigns, and in keeping with decades of Russian propaganda efforts, the goal isn’t just to support one political party: It’s to destabilize the American process overall. “It is not per se getting Trump elected that is the end goal of the Russian state — but to increase partisan divides, anxiety and fear; all to make the U.S. elites more focused on domestic issues while paying less attention to aid to Ukraine,” Antibot4Navalny wrote POLITICO.

You do know you are failing, right?

The only reason you have not failed in Ukraine yet is you've had to reorient your shitty corrupt economy around turning  700,000 Russians into meat.  The wrecked economy and cost on Russian human life only accelerates all the internal forces in the Federation that will lead it to collapse.  You are a shit hole.  No one wants to be you.  Or to live in your shit hole.

Meanwhile, Americans are having a good old food fight.   We're voting more than ever.  So we may be divided.   But we are definitely democratic, and strong.  Check back with me tomorrow.

I was reading an old article by Stan Greenberg, the pollster, about how Democrats should deal with inflation and cost of living issues, And I ran across this:

 

 

Again, that article is from 2022, when higher food prices and gas prices were peaking.   So Greenberg was discussing ideas of what Democrats should do about it.  The article isn't about foreign policy.

For whatever reason, he includes NATO and Russia in his survey.  And it is telling.   What are Americans warmest to?  NATO.   What are Americans ice cold to?  Russia.   We  despise Genocide Man.  Go ahead and turn 1 million more Russians into meat, if you are committed to genocide and murder and killing Russians.  It is why the whole world thinks Russia is a shit hole.

Putin did this.  Genocide Man is why NATO is stronger than ever.  And why we despise Putin, and his genocide and failing attacks on democracy.  He is as stupid as he is genocidal.   What a miserable mess he has made.

Thank you for making the US tougher and stronger.   Please hurry up and disintegrate, as the Russian Federation is destined to do.  Just like the Soviet Union, which actually was a great nation compared to Putin's miserable and murderous Genocide World.

No one believes you.  No one respects you. No one wants to be you.  You are failing.

[unicorn]

9 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

..Full List of Putin Critics Who Have Died in Mysterious Circumstances...

That's an absurdly short list. The list of journalists alone is many times greater than that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

And it dwarfs the long list of other Putin critics he's murdered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_in_2022–2024