reader Posted October 24 Posted October 24 From The Nation Thailand’s highly controversial “landing fee” has been renamed “travelling tax” and is expected to come into effect around mid-2025, starting with arrivals by air, the Tourism and Sports Ministry has announced. Minister Sorawong Thienthong said on Wednesday that the new tax will be submitted to the Cabinet for approval within the first quarter of next year. After being approved, it will become effective in six months, or around mid-2025, he said, adding that the tax will be levied on those arriving by air in the first phase. “Kha Yeap Pan Din” (fee for stepping on Thai soil), also known as a “landing fee”, was approved in principle by the Cabinet in February last year. It aims to levy 300 baht ($8.88) on foreigners arriving by air and 150 baht ($4.44) for those arriving by land or sea. The minister said the money earned would be used to buy insurance for foreigners and the remainder added to the tourism development fund. The fund will support the improvement of tourist attractions, including the building of facilities for the disabled and toilets for tourists. Sorawong said the ministry is working on an application to be used to collect the tax, which will be linked to the system of the Krungthai Bank. The current insurance coverage amount will remain the same, which is no more than 60 baht from the 300 baht per person travelling tax. Insurance payout in case of death is set at 1 million baht, and a maximum of 500,000 baht for injuries. This amount is on top of the insurance that foreign tourists buy themselves. The insurance under the new travel tax will cover a stay in Thailand for no more than 30 days, which is applicable to around 87% of foreign arrivals, he said. Sorawong added that after the first phase, the Cabinet may consider adjusting the tax for arrivals via land and sea channels to the same rate as for air travellers to avoid accusations of unequal treatment. He added that the travelling tax will not be levied on cross-border merchants, who will need to show a border pass when crossing to and from neighbouring countries. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/policy/40042628 vinapu 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 26 Posted October 26 5 hours ago, Mavica said: I'm okay with that. The question is how it will be levied, without causing big delays. I can't see that the Government has worked that out yet. Quote
reader Posted October 26 Author Posted October 26 Sounds like it’s going to included in airfare ancillary items. Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 26 Posted October 26 1 hour ago, reader said: Sounds like it’s going to included in airfare ancillary items. I saw that was one of the suggestions, but how will the airline know whether the tax is payable, ie. a tourist, payable, or a Thai national, or other exempt category, not payable. Quote
reader Posted October 26 Author Posted October 26 With AI, I’d imagine a smart programmer could pull it off. Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 26 Posted October 26 26 minutes ago, reader said: With AI, I’d imagine a smart programmer could pull it off. I assume there would have to be additional questions when you apply for a ticket. How many different airlines serve Bangkok? How would the Thai authorities check that the necessary people had paid, etc? Also, how would Thailand collect the money off the airlines. I suppose that if there was a brown envelope opportunity, things might go more smoothly! Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 26 Posted October 26 A simpler way would be a daily small tax on hotel rooms. This is common in Europe. Easy to operate and collect. Most hotel guests will be 'travellers'. Quote
floridarob Posted October 27 Posted October 27 15 hours ago, Keithambrose said: I saw that was one of the suggestions, but how will the airline know whether the tax is payable, ie. a tourist, payable, or a Thai national, or other exempt category, not payable. Mexico has a tourism tax that citizens and residents don't pay that is collected by the airline. Where it asks for passport and nationality and residency , that is how it's determined. If I use a US credit card, I change the country to Mexico and the zip code, I use my US one...the credit card system looks for name, Credit Card number, CVV2 and zip code to approve or use a Mexican card. Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 27 Posted October 27 7 hours ago, floridarob said: Mexico has a tourism tax that citizens and residents don't pay that is collected by the airline. Where it asks for passport and nationality and residency , that is how it's determined. If I use a US credit card, I change the country to Mexico and the zip code, I use my US one...the credit card system looks for name, Credit Card number, CVV2 and zip code to approve or use a Mexican card. Fair enough, but I can't see Thailand getting their act together to deal with all the airlines that fly to Bangkok, collecting the money, which I assume is in different currencies, depending on the airline, onverting it into exactly Baht300, etc. How will the airline, in say, Pakistan, charge Baht300, in local currency? I suppose that where there's a will there's a way, but it seems odd to add in an expensive layer of bureaucracy to collect a small amount of money. Quote
Mavica Posted October 27 Posted October 27 It's not rocket science. Thailand will figure it out, as other countries have. floridarob 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted October 27 Posted October 27 6 hours ago, Mavica said: It's not rocket science. Thailand will figure it out, as other countries have. Possibly, but Thailand doesn't have the best record in this area! As I said, surely a nightly hotel tax would be simpler? Quote
Members daydreamer Posted October 28 Members Posted October 28 12 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Fair enough, but I can't see Thailand getting their act together to deal with all the airlines that fly to Bangkok, collecting the money, which I assume is in different currencies, depending on the airline, onverting it into exactly Baht300, etc. How will the airline, in say, Pakistan, charge Baht300, in local currency? I suppose that where there's a will there's a way, but it seems odd to add in an expensive layer of bureaucracy to collect a small amount of money. Thailand has already included a departure tax into the price of international airline tickets for about 20 years, so they should not have any problem with collecting this new revenue stream from the airlines. Before the departure tax was included in the ticket price (about 20 years ago), every departing international passenger was required to buy a paper tax receipt for 500 baht in cash after check-in, and then immigration officers collected the tax receipt when the traveler passed through immigration, upon departure. I remember machines in the airport departure terminal that sold those paper tax receipts. Tourists used to be reminded to keep 500 baht cash when leaving the country, to pay the tax. Over the years, and after the tax was integrated into the ticket price, the international departure tax increased from 500 baht to 600, then to 700 baht, and recently it was increased to the present 730 Baht. This fee is invisible, as it is now built into the international airline ticket prices. Domestic passengers currently pay a tax of 130 baht on flights. This newest tax is being called a "tourism arrival fee or tax", and will be 300 baht (in the beginning). So once the new tourist arrival fee is implemented, between the two taxes, a round-trip international air traveler will pay 300 baht arrival tax, and 730 baht departure tax, for a total of 1,030 baht. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/2866607/minister-aims-to-levy-300-baht-tourism-tax pong2 and floridarob 2 Quote
