New gay bar opens on Patpong 2

[reader]

Stopped by the new bar shortly after 9p.m. I chose a table (Semicircular banquet type that can sit four comfortably).

the waiter (one of three) gave me a menu that offered a good selection of beers and I selected an Asahi (150, same as local brew prices). When he  put by bill in cup he also deliver small bowl of chips.

There were two customers at bar and four young Asian guys at another table.

it wasn’t long before waiter started conversation with usual questions. Then asked me if he could sit with me, confirming suspicion that this was indeed a host bar. I declined tbh because I knew I wasn’t interested and was there on an information gathering mission. 

The other waiters also stopped by but I was busy on my phone.

There was local pop music on sound system, not at an obnoxious level that would inhibit conversation but still a bit annoying to old man like myself. 

The manager who was teaching bartenders to use register is a farang. And on the subject of bartenders, there are two and I believe that’s where the talent is. That’s where I’d sit on any future  visit.

 

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, a-447 said:

Sometimes, depending on where the guy comes from, the word he uses for 'cock' sounds exactly like 'koi', rather than 'ku-way' (kuay)

I noticed that as well , it's why I suspect ( and strongly hope ) bar's  name "Dragon Koi"  has nice play of words included

[vinapu]

12 minutes ago, reader said:

it wasn’t long before waiter started conversation with usual questions. Then asked me if he could sit with me, confirming suspicion that this was indeed a host bar. I declined tbh because I knew I wasn’t interested and was there on an information gathering mission. 

The other waiters also stopped by but I was busy on my phone.

There was local pop music on sound system, not at an obnoxious level that would inhibit conversation but still a bit annoying to old man like myself. 

The manager who was teaching bartenders to use register is a farang. And on the subject of bartenders, there are two and I believe that’s where the talent is. That’s where I’d sit on any future  visit.

 

very encouraging report  , this is what I , and I suspect many others,  wanted to hear

[zoomomancs]

Pics taken today. Any thoughts on what pegae and besh mean?

[reader]

Posters confirm drag show (😔). But I’m sure others will see it differently. 

[Keithambrose]

4 hours ago, reader said:

Posters confirm drag show (😔). But I’m sure others will see it differently. 

Surely we don't need yet another drag show?

[silverwolf76]

is there cute boys or not

[reader]

58 minutes ago, silverwolf76 said:

is there cute boys or not

“Cute” is in the eye of the beholder. Did not find any of them unattractive. 

As a noted authority on the matter I believe would say: go and see for yourself; It only takes one.

[vinapu]

15 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Surely we don't need yet another drag show?

we don't but Asians seem to love them so if that takes to keep bar running I'd hummm along

[vinapu]

14 hours ago, reader said:

 

As a noted authority on the matter I believe would say: go and see for yourself; It only takes one.

 # me too

[reader]

I stopped by bar at 12:40 a.m. Boy who I met first night bar opened sat with me and I brought him at beer.).

He filled me in on some details.

- all boys who work there from Myanmar

- boss is from US

- Four boys dance on bar (shirtless) at following times:

   9 to 9:30

   10 to 10:30

   11 to 11:30

   1 to 1:30

I watched few minutes of dancing and tipped boy who had sat with me who was now dancing.

His English is very good. He studied physics in uni. Other guys also spoke good English.

 

 

[jason1975]

Does he play chess? I would love to spent the night playing chess with him!

[reader]

2 hours ago, jason1975 said:

Does he play chess? I would love to spent the night playing chess with him!

Oddly, conversation never turned to board games. That said, I think he could take your king if you let him.

[Keithambrose]

On 11/11/2024 at 7:08 PM, reader said:

I stopped by bar at 12:40 a.m. Boy who I met first night bar opened sat with me and I brought him at beer.).

He filled me in on some details.

- all boys who work there from Myanmar

- boss is from US

- Four boys dance on bar (shirtless) at following times:

   9 to 9:30

   10 to 10:30

   11 to 11:30

   1 to 1:30

I watched few minutes of dancing and tipped boy who had sat with me who was now dancing.

His English is very good. He studied physics in uni. Other guys also spoke good English.

 

 

Glad to hear about English. The guy Vinapu and I chatted to, so to say, spoke no English.

[reader]

Dragon and Koi is showing signs of resilience with steadily increasing customer flow.

Made my fourth visit last night and counted six hosts (who also double as dancers) on hand. They’re all attractive, friendly and eager to keep you company. All but one speaks English.

The customer drinks are reasonably priced and boy drinks about half of what show bars charge.

Although they can’t be offed, they seem open to meeting customers after shop closes at 2.

[Raposa]

Two other forum members and me tested out the bar again today. The vibe is definitely more upbeat, and the dancing more choreographed. Several new hosts had started recently too. The hosts seem to enjoy working together. 

All in all a much better experience than last weekend.

 

[Keithambrose]

3 hours ago, Raposa said:

Two other forum members and me tested out the bar again today. The vibe is definitely more upbeat, and the dancing more choreographed. Several new hosts had started recently too. The hosts seem to enjoy working together. 

All in all a much better experience than last weekend.

 

That's encouraging,  but how will they make enough money to survive?

[Raposa]

31 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

That's encouraging,  but how will they make enough money to survive?

They have more customers!

[vinapu]

I gather still no offs from bar and guys , if can be engaged it must be done after or before hours ?

If true it would mirror Space Hair bar in Phnom Penh format, too bad their boys are not of SH frame but who knows in future ?

[reader]

4 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

That's encouraging,  but how will they make enough money to survive?

Tips given to them during dance routines. Don’t be surprised if they physically invite you to do impromptu dance with them!

Tips from socializing with customer at table.

commission on drinks customer buys for them.

personally I spent about 2K in tips over three hour period last night and another 2K for drinks and my share of bottle. Evivalent to drinks, off fee and tips at many bars but I had a much better experience. Can’t afford to do that every night but the atmosphere worked for me and two other forum members. We all left with terrific memories of those sweaty bodies clinging to us.

But you don’t have to be active participant. You can chose just to buy reasonably priced drink on observe the action. 

[spoon]

6 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

That's encouraging,  but how will they make enough money to survive?

Like reader's mentioned, and im pretty sure if the guys are happy with just dancing and drinks for tips, they will be content with the tips they made. I do hope the bars do pay them a fixed income, at least minimum wages. 

[reader]

13 minutes ago, spoon said:

Like reader's mentioned, and im pretty sure if the guys are happy with just dancing and drinks for tips, they will be content with the tips they made. I do hope the bars do pay them a fixed income, at least minimum wages. 

Don’t know for fact but since they can’t be offed during working hours I, too, would like to think that they get compensated for their well choreographed and energetic dance routines. 

[bkkmfj2648]

2 hours ago, spoon said:

do hope the bars do pay them a fixed income, at least minimum wages. 

 

2 hours ago, reader said:

I , too, would like to think that they get compensated for their well choreographed and energetic dance routines. 

The key operative 2 words being = "minimum wages". 

Many of the guys here in Jomtien have repeatedly told me that the bar pays them a sub minimum wage of 100 baht per day --> when the real wage should be 363 baht per day.

Perhaps, the management at the Dragon and Koi is paying them fairly? 🤔

[Keithambrose]

5 hours ago, reader said:

Tips given to them during dance routines. Don’t be surprised if they physically invite you to do impromptu dance with them!

Tips from socializing with customer at table.

commission on drinks customer buys for them.

personally I spent about 2K in tips over three hour period last night and another 2K for drinks and my share of bottle. Evivalent to drinks, off fee and tips at many bars but I had a much better experience. Can’t afford to do that every night but the atmosphere worked for me and two other forum members. We all left with terrific memories of those sweaty bodies clinging to us.

But you don’t have to be active participant. You can chose just to buy reasonably priced drink on observe the action. 

'Sweaty bodies'? Clothes off? 

[reader]

When they put t-shirts back on after dancing, they soak up the perspiration. Adds a certain intimacy.