How assertive are you ?

[reader]

Admire your ability to forge relationships with a variety of Thai men. They obviously contribute to your enjoyment  of life in Pattaya and confirm your decision to retire there. Here's hoping that Vietnam and Philippines prove as rewarding. 

[10tazione]

One day, long before the pandemics, I was there and a guy asked me for my whatsapp and I carelessly gave it to him and then I got messages "I love you", pictures, videos, naked pictures, "why dont you love me?" etc. so pushy that i had to block him. Now when I am in Pattaya, which is rare, and he detects me on Grindr, I still get messages.

Since when does the Dongtan court have floodlight? I remember the guys all changing to the court in Jomtien Soi 8 when it got dark., but the court there is gone now.

[Keithambrose]

4 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

hmm, difficult question to respond to.

They are predominately gay, there are some bi, and there are also sometimes a few transgender - which I discovered when way back in March, as reported by @reader, when he posted the Filipino - and Thai transgender clash on Sukhumvit soi 11 in Bangkok.

because at one of the volleyball games, a Filipina transgender asked if she could join the volleyball guys one evening in March and she specifically referred to what had just happened in Bangkok on Soi Sukhumvit 11.  The guys all laughed and told her if she would be a "good girl" then no harm would come to her....  They loved her and she had a great time.  Kudos for Thai peace and good Philippine behavior. 

There are also some straight - and they tend to be from the Russian contingent that sometimes joins the Thai guys to play volleyball.  Some of the straight Russian guys are pretty cool about all of the slurs, cat-calling, and lusty eyes on them, etcetra.  

The ring leader of this "gay volleyball" - Ma Toey, a gay Thai guy, is very brazen with everyone.  In fact, one night after volleyball some of us went to the nearby Russian night market in Prathumnak to eat dinner and drink.  Well, Ma Toey, was obsessed with one of these straight Russian guys and made sure that he was well drunk by the end of the night and rumor says that Ma Toey was able to get into this straight Russian's hotel room at the nearby Pattaya Park Tower, and he gave him a blow job.

so, are they all available, if all goes well?

I would say that it is hit and miss for various reasons:

1.) Some of them are money boys - as they don't have day jobs and playing volleyball at night does not pay the bills.  This sub-set of volleyball guys tend to have their profiles in Hornet.  Supposedly, not everyone knows about each others ways on how they get money.  But if you are subtle with them in a discreet way you can become one of their customers for payment.  I have gone with about 4 of them.  One of these four, swore me to secrecy because he did not want the other volleyball guys to know that he was an escort - you cannot tell from his Hornet profile - but I pursued him because I got to know him at volleyball and when I discovered his Hornet profile I wrote to him.

2.) Some of them are NOT money boys and have daytime jobs and join volleyball in the evening after finishing work.  This sub-set is not as easy to have sex with because they have jobs and are more picky about who they will have sex with and might be offended at the idea of being paid for sex.  There is one guy in this sub-set that I had the hots for and I knew his former boyfriend and I asked his former boyfriend if it would be possible to get his ex in my bed - obviously for payment.  So, my volleyball friend  arranged that the 3 of us went to dinner one night so that I could get to know him outside of on the volleyball field - more discrete.  We exchanged our LINE contacts and in  the following days I solicited him for some fun in my bed.  All of the pricing details were worked out - but this guy had so many - "you cannot do these things to me:" 1.) not to suck his cock without a condom, 2.) not to touch his nipples - he is too ticklish, 3.) no kissing, 4.) does not like edging or to receive a handjob, 5.) do not touch or caress his balls, 6.) he did not want to reciprocate anything back to me.  So, I did not pursue him anymore but we are still cordial at volleyball and he knows that if he would loosen up his crazy restrictions that I am still game.  When my volleyball friend asked me if we had met - I told him about all of the above restrictions and said that it killed my interest.  I then asked my volleyball friend - why did you stay with him for 4 years?  He replied to me, He is an excellent top with a humongous dick and can fuck me all night long.  Since I am not a bottom and I am predominantly an edger - I could then understand why it would never work for me - even though I became obsessed to want to play with his humongous dick.

3.) People passing by on the Dongtan sidewalk at the volleyball field who stop to: 1.) watch, or 2.) play.  One of these guys (a tourist) who was watching I managed to get into my bed.  On another occasion, there were 3 Japanese tourists who stopped to play and I was goo-goo gaa-gaa for all of them and I made them know that I was interested.  They left during the volleyball game (as the Thai guys kicked their ass) to go eat and said that they would return and that we could discuss this more.  Unfortunately, they never returned and I remained on the volleyball field well after everyone else left - oh well - you cannot have everything.

4.) Random - I have witnessed random volleyball guys hooking up with other players and other spectators.  I was not close enough to them to understand how it happened - but it happened.  So, anything is possible.

If you do not get laid - you will still have fun, be entertained, and possibly make new friends.  Once you can get into the inner circle - options for sex become much more easier.

 

Thank very much for such a detailed  response. Much appreciated. 

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, a-447 said:

Only when I'm on holidays. 

Sometimes I can go a third time if I bottom, in which case I don't always cum.

Even more impressive!

[Keithambrose]

10 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Personally? Or over the app?

I mean it's a bit hard to ask a boy in a bar that with everyone listening 🎧 😂 

Especially if his English is not the best ,I guess you have to do body 👅 language 🍑😂😂

 

In UK, all by txt. 

 

I like the idea of making the enquiries by body language! Conjures up some interesting situations....

[Shonen]

On 9/21/2024 at 9:30 PM, vinapu said:

so likely you don't like going to Thailand as it's not  a country for shy types. But my suggestion is -brave yourself and go.

To answer another question , yes if bellboy would be attractive  I will be trying to cruise him and look for reactions. If positive or encouraging I'd ask him if he is interested in seeing my stamp collection. Or even better he may actually be one who suggests that.

This is how I landed guy I met on street by chance and coincidence few times during few consecutive  days. On the third meet I asked him how are you to which he answered 'one day we should have drink together". Then it was kind of easy- drink, than dinner, after dinner he suggested we buy some beer and drink in my room where in turn it was too hot to stay fully dressed. At end of session I asked if I can give him some money for taxi  to which he answered 'of course'.

Now whenever I'm in Bangkok I let him know and he tells me when he can come and see me. Things came to a point he calls himself " I'm your daytime boy, you have many night time boys" 

so bottom line - have eyes wide opened and look for encouraging signs

 

I’d be careful if I were you. Depending on how rare the stamps are:

1, if it’s too hot to stay fully dressed in your room, the glue on the back of the stamps might get sticky, damaging them and rendering them worthless.

2, drinks and stamps don’t mix! One knocked over drink can destroy your collection. I’ve spilled water on my rare 1912 “ War of 1812” commemorative series. It’s ruined.

I usually just leave my stamp collection home now. Some nerdy Asians loved them but it just wasn’t worth the hassle of protecting them. I do bring my one ounce silver Chinese pandas with me, as they are not as fragile as stamps and the boys absolutely love them.