reader Posted Wednesday at 11:57 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:57 AM From Bangkok Post Security personnel cuff demonstrators outside the Tak Bai police station in Narathiwat to prepare them for transport to an army camp on Oct 25, 2004. Seventy-eight of them died during the journey. (Bangkok Post file photo: Thawatchai Kemgumnerd) Please credit and share this article with others using this link: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2867881/eight-more-charged-in-2004-tak-bai-massacre. View our policies at http://goo.gl/9HgTd and http://goo.gl/ou6Ip. © Bangkok Post PCL. All rights reserved. Thai authorities will prosecute eight more former security personnel over their roles in the Tak Bai crackdown two decades ago, when 78 protesters suffocated or were crushed to death when crammed into army trucks, the Office of the Attorney General (OAG) said on Wednesday. All eight — six soldiers and two civilians — are charged with premeditated murder with foreseeable consequences. The use of overcrowded trucks to detain protesters was inappropriate, though there was no intent to cause death, OAG spokesperson Prayut Phetcharakhun told a press conference. “The suspects could have foreseen that their actions would have led to the suffocation and deaths of the 78 people under their responsibility,” he said. Mr Prayut said that Attorney-General Amnat Jedcharoenruk had decided to ask the police to bring the eight suspects to court for arraignment. If police are unable to do so by Oct 25, the statute of limitations will expire, he added. The Criminal Court in the southern province of Narathiwat last month accepted a related complaint filed by the victims’ families against security personnel after a years-long legal struggle. The seven defendants in the latter case were due to appear in court for witness questioning and evidence examination on Sept 12 but none showed up. Arrest warrants were issued for six of them. A summons was issued for the seventh defendant, former Army Region 4 commander Gen Pisal Wattanawongkiri. He is currently protected under parliamentary immunity as a list-MP of the governing Pheu Thai Party. The seven defendants implicated in the first case are accused of murder and unlawful detention for mishandling the demonstration and its aftermath. The eight suspects in the second case are: Gen Chaloemchai Wirulpetch, Sub Lt Nathawut Lueamsai, Wisanu Lertsongkhram, Lt JG Wisanukorn Chaisarn, Piti Yankaeo, CPO3 Pitak Srisuwan, Lt Col Prasert Matmil and Lt Rithirong Promrit. Continues at https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2867881/eight-more-charged-in-2004-tak-bai-massacre TMax, tm_nyc and vinapu 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted Wednesday at 05:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:57 PM I wonder how many of the deaths were due to positional asphyxia given the way they have them on their abdomens and somewhat stacked on each other. vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM 5 hours ago, Travelingguy said: I wonder how many of the deaths were due to positional asphyxia given the way they have them on their abdomens and somewhat stacked on each other. The article refers to many people being suffocated. Quite appalling incident. I remember it at the time. No one much cared then. vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted Thursday at 12:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:53 AM 1 hour ago, Keithambrose said: The article refers to many people being suffocated. Quite appalling incident. I remember it at the time. No one much cared then. because Thailand is consider country on our side. If that would happen in Iran , Cuba or Venezuela then Security Counsel will be called and all saints be condemning it 7/24. World is neither just not fair place Ruthrieston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmfj2648 Posted Thursday at 06:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:13 AM 6 hours ago, Keithambrose said: No one much cared then. and perhaps now even. Years back when I went to visit the famous railway bridge over the River Kwai up in Kanchanaburi - and then where this same railway line passes into Burma at the 3 Pagodas pass - I was quite perplexed with my 2 tour guides (one a Shan State guy from Myanmar and the other a Thai guy from Isaan) that they did not understand or know about the Death Railway and how Thailand was forced to yield way to its temporary ally, Japan, to build it within the Thailand territory. These 2 guys did not even know that Japan had technically invaded Thailand for a short period of time and then Thailand decided to yield to this invasion and to become a Japanese ally to avoid a war with Japan. When I made my 2 tour guides see and learn about the atrocities that were committed by the Japanese to build this death railway - they were quite shocked. Perhaps this part of their history is overlooked ? vinapu and Ruthrieston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM 6 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said: and perhaps now even. Perhaps this part of their history is overlooked ? for sure it is. Every country has it's moments it rather forget , even less to teach about them at schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted Thursday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:38 PM 5 hours ago, vinapu said: for sure it is. Every country has it's moments it rather forget , even less to teach about them at schools. Yea, indeed. I believe that the USA teaches that all men are equal, (unless black)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted Thursday at 05:56 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:56 PM 14 minutes ago, Keithambrose said: Yea, indeed. I believe that the USA teaches that all men are equal, (unless black)! Harsh considering that we fought a civil war over that issue that took the lives of 750,000 of our own citizens. And went on to elect a black man as president and currently considering a black woman for same office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted Thursday at 08:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:09 PM 2 hours ago, reader said: ....... we fought a civil war over that issue that took the lives of 750,000 of our own citizens. And went on to elect a black man as president and currently considering a black woman for same office. correct but 100 years after civil war was won by abolitionists USA still had bloody problem of desegregation of schools and buses. And to this day it's better to be white while taking shortcut though deserted parking lot in front of mall or condo. Hope is that consideration of Ms. Harris will prove successful , time for girl to take charge. Ruthrieston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM 42 minutes ago, vinapu said: it's better to be white... Yes, but you could say the same about an increasing number of European and Asian countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM 4 hours ago, reader said: Harsh considering that we fought a civil war over that issue that took the lives of 750,000 of our own citizens. And went on to elect a black man as president and currently considering a black woman for same office. And had segregation between blacks and whites well into the fifties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM 25 minutes ago, Keithambrose said: And had segregation between blacks and whites well into the fifties. Thanks for the reminder, Keith. Btw, who came to your country's rescue in two world wars. That's right, those fuckin' Americans. I know, the army was segregated but didn't hear you complaining then, did I? And how are you enjoying Vegas? Any segregation in the casinos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted Thursday at 11:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:45 PM 33 minutes ago, reader said: Thanks for the reminder, Keith. Btw, who came to your country's rescue in two world wars. That's right, those fuckin' Americans. I know, the army was segregated but didn't hear you complaining then, did I? And how are you enjoying Vegas? Any segregation in the casinos? What's that got to do with the topic? Incidentally, we, the UK, did refuse to allow segregation of the US Army in the UK. The US wished to continue segregation, the UK refused. Ruthrieston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM 12 minutes ago, Keithambrose said: What's that got to do with the topic? Absolutely nothing, as did your post that ignited this exchange: Yea, indeed. I believe that the USA teaches that all men are equal, (unless black)! That's false and you know it. It was simply a cheap shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM 3 minutes ago, reader said: Absolutely nothing, as did your post that ignited this exchange: Yea, indeed. I believe that the USA teaches that all men are equal, (unless black)! That's false and you know it. It was simply a cheap shot. Seems pretty accurate to me. Ruthrieston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM 1 minute ago, Keithambrose said: Seems pretty accurate to me. Show me where the US teaches that. Where is that taught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM 4 hours ago, vinapu said: correct but 100 years after civil war was won by abolitionists USA still had bloody problem of desegregation of schools and buses. And to this day it's better to be white while taking shortcut though deserted parking lot in front of mall or condo. Hope is that consideration of Ms. Harris will prove successful , time for girl to take charge. I have put reader on ignore, solves the problem of his messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM 5 minutes ago, Keithambrose said: I have put reader on ignore, solves the problem of his messages. In other words, you acknowledge that you made a false statement that started this exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 hours ago, reader said: Yes, but you could say the same about an increasing number of European and Asian countries. unfortunately I need to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, Keithambrose said: I have put reader on ignore, solves the problem of his messages. And not good to be black, and stopped by police for traffic offences, too many shot dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted 13 hours ago Author Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, Keithambrose said: And not good to be black, and stopped by police for traffic offences, too many shot dead! Don't disagree but you never said "...and stopped by police for traffic offences, too many shot dead!" in the post you cite here. If you had, perhaps we would have had a very different discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...