Members stevenkesslar Posted September 14 Members Share Posted September 14 Russia’s Medvedev threatens to turn Kyiv into ‘giant melted spot’ Quote Medvedev, who likes to rattle nuclear sabers, said the Kremlin already has "formal" grounds to use nuclear weapons after Ukraine's cross-border incursion into Russia's Kursk region, but could instead utilize newer technologies to create a "giant melted spot" on the site of the Ukrainian capital. I'll give our dumb fuck mass murdering autocrat Vlad credit for one thing. He is at least smart enough to have a surrogate make his direct genocidal threats for him. I think the problem with being a dumb fuck who can wipe out opposition with a bullet or poison is that he really has a dumb fuck's understanding of democracy. I think he thinks he can say he is rooting for Kamala, while his henchmen say, "Oh, we'll just do mass murder in Ukraine." What he's doing is driving even people like Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney to Harris. And the dumb fuck genocidal monster doesn't even understand it. People in Russia would love to fire their dumb fuck leader if they had a real democracy. But all the dumb fuck can do is hope to screw up our democracy instead. And before genocide cheerleader @Moses pipes up to defend mass murder, the US nuked Japan almost a century ago. It ended a war that Japan started by attacking the US, just like Genocide Man attacked Ukraine. In order to show how much he loves them, of course. That's just how much of a mass murdering dumb fuck Genocide Man is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 For dumb idiots like this @stevenkesslar, it is not clear that it is Medvedev's job to warn that if the US and the UK join the war between Russia and Ukraine, passing on intelligence and aiming missiles at targets on Russian territory, then there will be no one to protect? But hysterical squirrels will not understand this, apparently, and they will post kilometer-long posts here with giant font, virtually wringing their hands and sowing panic... It's interesting that the post above is dedicated to the author's fears that Russia will act like the US... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, Moses said: For dumb idiots like this @stevenkesslar, it is not clear that it is Medvedev's job to warn that if the US and the UK join the war between Russia and Ukraine, passing on intelligence and aiming missiles at targets on Russian territory, then there will be no one to protect? But hysterical squirrels will not understand this, apparently, and they will post kilometer-long posts here with giant font, virtually wringing their hands and sowing panic... It's interesting that the post above is dedicated to the author's fears that Russia will act like the US... Well, no. I will let @stevenkesslar speak for himself, but I think Russia fears that the Ukraine will start to act like Russia. It is okay for Russia to accept military aid and support from its friends (China and North Korea), but it is unacceptable for Ukraine to receive the same from its friends? Why the double standard? Would it be okay for Ukraine's leadership to threaten to turn Moscow into a "giant melted spot"? stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stevenkesslar Posted September 15 Author Members Share Posted September 15 8 hours ago, Moses said: it is not clear that it is Medvedev's job to warn that if the US and the UK join the war between Russia and Ukraine, passing on intelligence and aiming missiles at targets on Russian territory, then there will be no one to protect? It is not clear that it is Putin's job and right to commit genocide in Ukraine. But that is what he is doing. He is engaging in mass slaughter of women and children. He is killing hundreds of thousands of his own people. Your weak and failing wannabe economy and wannabe democracy is even weaker than before. Anyone who tries to fire Genocide Man ends up with a bullet in their head. People all over the world despise Russia and want it to fail for all these reasons. Weak. Failed. Loser. So if Putin wants to start a war with NATO for defending Ukraine from Putin's genocide and attack on sovereignty, he is even more of a suicidal dumb fuck than we thought. 8 hours ago, Moses said: It's interesting that the post above is dedicated to the author's fears that Russia will act like the US... Actually, I am far more afraid of the US acting like the US. The US invasion of Iraq was a predictable disaster. The US fucked it up in Viet Nam. Even Afghanistan ended badly. I put that in a different category because Afghanistan was self defense after 9/11. Didn't make a difference. If there is a lesson from Afghanistan it's that we should have had far more limited aims: take out the bad guys that attacked us, leave, and run counterterrorism operations. All of the above suggests Russia is doomed in Ukraine. It's pretty simple. Ukrainians hate Putin, hate Russians, and will happily kill every Russian they can from now to forever. They will fight you forever. Even if there is some kind of fragile peace they will hate you and fight you forever. That is what dumb fuck Putin did. You, @Moses, have written many words defending your dumb fuck leader's genocide. You've claimed that Ukrainians like what Genocide Man is doing. You have claimed that stealing their children and killing their women is what Ukraine wants. So now Putin's surrogates are being very open about their genocidal intentions. If Putin is allowed to take what he want, he will engage in mass murder. If Ukraine resists he is clearly stating he will kill them all. Genocide Man is for one thing: genocide. That is why the world hates Russia and can't wait for Russia to fail. We know what happened when the Soviet Union failed. Your weak dumb fuck leader hates it, and has done every dumb fuck thing he could think of to reverse the failure of the Soviet Union - to no avail. All he does is build hate for Russia, and resistance. The dumb fuck's genocide is exactly what is laying the groundwork for the collapse of the Russian Federation. When that happens, say goodbye to all the Ukrainians who hate you for this genocide. Say goodbye to Chechnya, too, which is small enough and close enough that Vlad's genocide and terror did work. For now. Putin's legacy will be genocide and failure. Couldn't happen to a nicer monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 9/15/2024 at 1:42 PM, stevenkesslar said: It is not clear that it is Putin's job and right to commit genocide in Ukraine. But that is what he is doing. He is engaging in mass slaughter of women and children. He is killing hundreds of thousands of his own people. Your weak and failing wannabe economy and wannabe democracy is even weaker than before. Anyone who tries to fire Genocide Man ends up with a bullet in their head. People all over the world despise Russia and want it to fail for all these reasons. Weak. Failed. Loser. So if Putin wants to start a war with NATO for defending Ukraine from Putin's genocide and attack on sovereignty, he is even more of a suicidal dumb fuck than we thought. Actually, I am far more afraid of the US acting like the US. The US invasion of Iraq was a predictable disaster. The US fucked it up in Viet Nam. Even Afghanistan ended badly. I put that in a different category because Afghanistan was self defense after 9/11. Didn't make a difference. If there is a lesson from Afghanistan it's that we should have had far more limited aims: take out the bad guys that attacked us, leave, and run counterterrorism operations. All of the above suggests Russia is doomed in Ukraine. It's pretty simple. Ukrainians hate Putin, hate Russians, and will happily kill every Russian they can from now to forever. They will fight you forever. Even if there is some kind of fragile peace they will hate you and fight you forever. That is what dumb fuck Putin did. You, @Moses, have written many words defending your dumb fuck leader's genocide. You've claimed that Ukrainians like what Genocide Man is doing. You have claimed that stealing their children and killing their women is what Ukraine wants. So now Putin's surrogates are being very open about their genocidal intentions. If Putin is allowed to take what he want, he will engage in mass murder. If Ukraine resists he is clearly stating he will kill them all. Genocide Man is for one thing: genocide. That is why the world hates Russia and can't wait for Russia to fail. We know what happened when the Soviet Union failed. Your weak dumb fuck leader hates it, and has done every dumb fuck thing he could think of to reverse the failure of the Soviet Union - to no avail. All he does is build hate for Russia, and resistance. The dumb fuck's genocide is exactly what is laying the groundwork for the collapse of the Russian Federation. When that happens, say goodbye to all the Ukrainians who hate you for this genocide. Say goodbye to Chechnya, too, which is small enough and close enough that Vlad's genocide and terror did work. For now. Putin's legacy will be genocide and failure. Couldn't happen to a nicer monster. I actually think the clock on his regime's downfall has started already... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/22/putin-regime-will-collapse-without-warning-says-freed-gulag-dissident stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 dreams... dreams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo T Dog Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 3 hours ago, Moses said: dreams... dreams... How can you sleep with bombs falling on Russia? Hope you have a bomb shelter. Putin sleeps in one. Sweet dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 13 minutes ago, Bingo T Dog said: How can you sleep with bombs falling on Russia? Bombs? On Russia? Where? Ukrainian air forces are died 2 years ago. KeepItReal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted September 30 Members Share Posted September 30 Poor Zelensky, he looked "pained and revolted" at the same time having to stand next to Trump at their televised press conference while Trump spewed loies and bullshit about the war and his admiration of Putin, while never once being able to say HE wants Ukraine to win the war...(because he doesnt)..... Zelensky looked at if he was praying for the floor to open so he could drop down into it to escape the horribly revolting Trump. But he had to make "nice-nice" with Trump in the event there is, GOD FORBID, a Trump win..... IMO, no matter how nice Zelensky is to Trump, if Trump win, aid to Ukraine STOPS pronto , allowing him to help his buddy Putin conquer Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moses Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 18 hours ago, Suckrates said: while never once being able to say HE wants Ukraine to win the war...(because he doesnt No one "on the top" wants Ukraine win. Because if Ukraine will win, next step will be demands to join NATO and EU then. Politico: Does America Want Ukraine to Defeat Russia? It Doesn’t Look That Way. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/18/america-ukraine-russia-biden-00179657 Wall Street Journal: Does Biden Want Ukraine to Win? https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-biden-want-ukraine-to-win-deal-russia-war-crimea-military-aid-630dbe60 The Hill: Why Biden can’t and won’t support a winning strategy for Ukraine and Israel https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4635968-why-biden-cant-and-wont-support-a-winning-strategy-for-ukraine-and-israel/ The Times: Does Joe Biden actually want Ukraine to win? https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/nc14lawson-0f2ptrcc0 Wall Street Journal: No One Wants Ukraine to Win https://www.wsj.com/articles/neither-trump-nor-biden-want-ukraine-to-win-russia-war-military-aid-a2c77c02 The Hill: Biden inexplicably urges Ukraine not to be so effective fighting against Russia https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4557384-biden-inexplicably-urges-ukraine-to-be-less-effective-fighting-against-russia/ Foreign Policy: What Does America Want in Ukraine? https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/09/america-ukraine-forever-war-congress-aid/ Newsweek: Does the US Actually Want Ukraine to Defeat Russia? https://www.newsweek.com/us-want-ukraine-defeat-russia-putin-biden-zelensky-peace-talks-1846772 KeepItReal and stevenkesslar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unicorn Posted October 2 Members Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2024 at 8:44 AM, reader said: Well, at least some Russians have courage. We should have put a booby trap in the head of the prisoner we exchanged for Kara-Murza. If Kara-Murza gets assassinated while in asylum in the US, we detonate the explosive in our former prisoner's head. That's the only way Putin can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unicorn Posted October 2 Members Share Posted October 2 17 hours ago, Moses said: No one "on the top" wants Ukraine win. Because if Ukraine will win, next step will be demands to join NATO and EU then... Now, wouldn't that be just awful. 😄 (well, maybe for Putin) stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stevenkesslar Posted October 6 Author Members Share Posted October 6 On 10/1/2024 at 1:07 AM, Moses said: No one "on the top" wants Ukraine win. Because if Ukraine will win, next step will be demands to join NATO and EU then. Politico: Does America Want Ukraine to Defeat Russia? It Doesn’t Look That Way. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/18/america-ukraine-russia-biden-00179657 Wall Street Journal: Does Biden Want Ukraine to Win? https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-biden-want-ukraine-to-win-deal-russia-war-crimea-military-aid-630dbe60 The Hill: Why Biden can’t and won’t support a winning strategy for Ukraine and Israel https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4635968-why-biden-cant-and-wont-support-a-winning-strategy-for-ukraine-and-israel/ The Times: Does Joe Biden actually want Ukraine to win? https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/nc14lawson-0f2ptrcc0 Wall Street Journal: No One Wants Ukraine to Win https://www.wsj.com/articles/neither-trump-nor-biden-want-ukraine-to-win-russia-war-military-aid-a2c77c02 The Hill: Biden inexplicably urges Ukraine not to be so effective fighting against Russia https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4557384-biden-inexplicably-urges-ukraine-to-be-less-effective-fighting-against-russia/ Foreign Policy: What Does America Want in Ukraine? https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/09/america-ukraine-forever-war-congress-aid/ Newsweek: Does the US Actually Want Ukraine to Defeat Russia? https://www.newsweek.com/us-want-ukraine-defeat-russia-putin-biden-zelensky-peace-talks-1846772 Oh, my genocide defending and lying friend Let's face facts, not Genocide Man's lies and propaganda: Putin issues nuclear warning to the West over strikes on Russia from Ukraine Putin could of course "win" the war with Ukraine by nuking it. But that would just hasten the collapse of the rotten and failing Russian Federation, and Putin knows it. Not to mention turn Moscow into a pile of radioactive waste. So all those article you cited are about the restraint practiced by the US, the EU, NATO, and leaders around the world who despise Genocide Man but resist the war and genocide Putin started. Putin's economy is weak, and fueled by turning hundreds of thousands of Russians into meat. It's an unsustainable Genocide Economy and Putin knows it. What must sicken Genocide Man to death is that his every attempt to weaken democracy only makes it stronger. People in the US are voting in record numbers. And the vast majority are on the side of defending Ukraine from Putin's genocide. All Putin's lies and propaganda and murder can't change that. Once Trump loses - again - Murderous Vlad's best chance for subverting democracy dies. Poor sick weak old Genocide Man! What will happen when poor sick weak old Genocide Man does? Dunno. But I sure hope poor sick weak old Genocide Man lives for a long time. Murderous Vlad excels at killing Russians and turning the Russian economy into a stagnant mess that requires killing Russians. The world can just sit back and let Genocide Man further destabilize and destroy his own rotten nation. I pray for the Russians who want something better than death or stagnation! Genocide Man's Russian-devouring and Ukrainian-killing economy doesn't even match up to one US state. Instead of producing energy, Russia thrives on the killing of Russians and the global distribution of disgust about Putin. Woo hoo! Poor losers! All you can do is lose and whine and delude yourselves that your collapsing Genocide Economy is actually strong. You have organized the whole world against you. Even Master Xi will cut his murderous pit bull loose when the time comes. Ever wonder why the world will rejoice when the Russian Federation collapses? (Granted, India will have to find a new arms supplier, and Master Xi will find cheap gas elsewhere.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted October 6 Members Share Posted October 6 On 10/1/2024 at 4:07 AM, Moses said: No one "on the top" wants Ukraine win. Because if Ukraine will win, next step will be demands to join NATO and EU then. And kindly tell me WHAT the problem with that would be ? Alliances are good things, except for the people that want to destroy its members DEAR ! stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 hours ago, Suckrates said: And kindly tell me WHAT the problem with that would be ? There is a character in Russian folklore called Zmey Gorynych, he looks like a dragon, only with more necks and heads. And there is a joke about him, in which in the morning all the heads except one swear at her: when it's time to drink, you drink alone, but everyone has a severe hangover in the morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 3 hours ago, stevenkesslar said: Oh, my genocide defending and lying friend Stevie, dear, are you alive? Great, otherwise you've been silent for 7 days and I have no one left to tease. That's not right, don't do that again or I'll scold you! What happened to you? Is everything okay? I'm worried about you: bringing information from two weeks ago here as "news" looks ridiculous. These two weeks have seen a sharp turn in the trends, because Putin's warning worked: Zelensky's "victory plan" that he brought to the UN General Assembly was rejected with skepticism by grown-ups. Scholz said that Ukraine would wait 30 years for NATO membership, and Biden, Harris and Trump all tried not to promise little Zelensky anything. And today's FT has a big article analyzing the situation and telling us that Zelensky returned hysterical, blamed the entire military leadership for his defeat and in the coming days will replace the Minister of Defense, the Chief of Staff and the Chief of Intelligence. And this is because at the meeting with adults he could not show a single success of the Ukrainian army over the past 2 years. Therefore, Zelensky was sent home to study his lessons and was ordered to return for the exam on October 12 at the Ramstein base with realistic plans. The FT calls the main realistic European plan Ukraine's refusal of the territories already occupied by Russia, fixing the borders and further negotiations through diplomatic channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unicorn Posted October 6 Members Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Moses said: There is a character in Russian folklore called Zmey Gorynych, he looks like a dragon, only with more necks and heads. And there is a joke about him, in which in the morning all the heads except one swear at her: when it's time to drink, you drink alone, but everyone has a severe hangover in the morning! Maybe you only have one head, but it seems to me that you're the one who's drinking too much, with your irrelevant stories. All of these heads are drinking on the job... https://www.the-sun.com/news/7777506/russian-soldiers-drunk-ukraine-fight/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 9 hours ago, unicorn said: Maybe you only have one head, but it seems to me that you're the one who's drinking too much, with your irrelevant stories. Dear, you know that going on to the opponent's personality means that you have no arguments on the merits of the dispute? And, besides, it shows a low level of discussion culture. unicorn and stevenkesslar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 17 hours ago, Moses said: Stevie, dear, are you alive? Great, otherwise you've been silent for 7 days and I have no one left to tease. That's not right, don't do that again or I'll scold you! What happened to you? Is everything okay? I'm worried about you: bringing information from two weeks ago here as "news" looks ridiculous. These two weeks have seen a sharp turn in the trends, because Putin's warning worked: Zelensky's "victory plan" that he brought to the UN General Assembly was rejected with skepticism by grown-ups. Scholz said that Ukraine would wait 30 years for NATO membership, and Biden, Harris and Trump all tried not to promise little Zelensky anything. And today's FT has a big article analyzing the situation and telling us that Zelensky returned hysterical, blamed the entire military leadership for his defeat and in the coming days will replace the Minister of Defense, the Chief of Staff and the Chief of Intelligence. And this is because at the meeting with adults he could not show a single success of the Ukrainian army over the past 2 years. Therefore, Zelensky was sent home to study his lessons and was ordered to return for the exam on October 12 at the Ramstein base with realistic plans. The FT calls the main realistic European plan Ukraine's refusal of the territories already occupied by Russia, fixing the borders and further negotiations through diplomatic channels. You and I read the FT article very differently. Maybe I need a few drinks and then try reading it again. 😋 stevenkesslar, unicorn and Pete1111 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unicorn Posted October 7 Members Share Posted October 7 8 hours ago, Moses said: Dear, you know that going on to the opponent's personality means that you have no arguments on the merits of the dispute? And, besides, it shows a low level of discussion culture. Dear, you know that going onto irrelevant drunken stories means that you have no arguments on the merits of the dispute... 😁 stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
