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This time bit different - trip to Thailand in August 2024

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Always nice to read such trip reports. I use it to warm up for my own trip to Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) in only 3 weeks. Can't wait to be back.

 

On 9/9/2024 at 1:57 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

When you take the bathbus (songthaew) from Pattaya City to Jomtien - the bahtbus goes over a hill that separates Pattaya City from Jomtien and the neighborhoods on that hill are Prathamnak and Cosy Beach - where Cosy Beach has the seaside cliff with amazing views.

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Looks great. Maybe I should check it out when I come to Pattaya in a few weeks. Prices are still oke there? I can imagine because of location and how it looks you pay more that it's actually worth...? 

 

On 9/10/2024 at 2:23 AM, vinapu said:

 My only goal for such short hop was Space Hair bar visit and I already reported on it in PP thread as below :   

   Happy to report I visited Phnom Penh recently to get a haircut and  visit Space Hair bar 2 nights in row. Both nights I was only customer between 9pm  and midnight, only then some customers arrived and sat till close at 2 pm. 

So not unpleasant task of entertaining all 7 bays present each evening fell on me. I did it with pleasure and expense was worth it. 

Best thing about Space Bar is absolute lack of pressure to buy drinks or/and dispense tips. 

knowing what question everybody wants to ask, answer is : no this time I did not get lucky, not for lack of trying. Thing is with no other customers it's hard to get that discrete moment when crucial questions can  be asked.

Still it was worth time and expense “

I also have good memories about Space Hair Bar. I totally agree what your opinion about this bar. They are so welcoming, not pushing for drinks or tips. But still making sure you get the attention you want from those nice boys. The later it gets, the boys will go topless and customers can toch the muscles. Some discrete groping might me possible also. Discrete is the important word here. The boys working there seem the like to flirt and tease. 

 

On 9/8/2024 at 4:49 AM, bkkmfj2648 said:

yes, slowly slowly Boyztown and even the Jomtien Supertown Complex are losing their peak performance.

The anchor of Boyztown, BoyzBoyzBoyz is no longer fun; A-Bomb without gogo dancers - now only a show; Sunee Plaza now practically a ghost town, and Supertown now having another difficult slow season and hanging on for the hoped for uptick, when many members in this forum will return for high-season from the end of October through March.

Hopefully it be me a bit more lively when I visit Pattaya in a few weeks. For sure we will find some nice places still!

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31 minutes ago, emiel1981 said:

Looks great. Maybe I should check it out when I come to Pattaya in a few weeks. Prices are still oke there? I can imagine because of location and how it looks you pay more that it's actually worth...? 

yes, you pay a premium because of the unique breathtaking location.  On this Cosy Beach cliff are several restaurants with similar view.

I believe that the most popular one is the 3 Mermaids https://www.facebook.com/3MermaidsPattaya

which requires an advance reservation if you want to eat in one of the many elevated bird nests - with amazing views.

when I need to go there I make a reservation 3 to 4 days in advance - and you need to pay a reservation fee for the physical bird nest of 2.000 baht - but that amount is deducted from you bill after your dinner and if you are a no-show then you forfeit the 2.000 baht.

31 minutes ago, emiel1981 said:

Hopefully it be me a bit more lively when I visit Pattaya in a few weeks. For sure we will find some nice places still!

Well, you wrote in a previous thread that we would need to go and check out the Legacy Big Tool bar on Walking Street

 

and then someone else - perhaps in an @Olddaddy thread requested that someone check out the NEW The Secret Club Pattaya - also off of Walking Street - I believe on Soi 12 - formerly a straight club now supposedly gay.

https://www.facebook.com/TheSecretClubPattaya/

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1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Well, you wrote in a previous thread that we would need to go and check out the Legacy Big Tool bar on Walking Street

and then someone else - perhaps in an @Olddaddy thread requested that someone check out the NEW The Secret Club Pattaya - also off of Walking Street - I believe on Soi 12 - formerly a straight club now supposedly gay.

https://www.facebook.com/TheSecretClubPattaya/

Still new places to explore!

I had a look at the facebook page of "The Secret Club" and I wonder if it's "gay" or just one of these "straight" host-bars with a lot of screaming Chinese girls... lol My gut feeling says it's probably the latter.

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1 hour ago, emiel1981 said:

I wonder if it's "gay" or just one of these "straight" host-bars with a lot of screaming Chinese girls... lol My gut feeling says it's probably the latter.

best way is to go and see oneself. Money speaks and even in "straight" bar with screaming girls one may get lucky as thre are no boys like straight boys

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On 9/12/2024 at 10:24 PM, vinapu said:

I was prepared to pay.

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It's overbearing feeling that  some of them don't value our custom at all and feel free to lie and deceive for the sake of lousy buck.

When I was looking for long time in 2012-2014, I had similar problems. But nowadays I sleep better alone and do long time only if the boys suggests or someone I had several good short times with and I suggest long time and specify details. Two years ago I had such case (I asked the boy for long time), and he had to leave at 6 am, so we woke up 5 am to have an hour together, but not worth the extra money, next time leave it at short time.

You can buy smiles, but you can't change their behavior with money.

I had such cases as well, where the boy would rather get a small amount of money by scamming me (e.g. advance payment for travel) instead of a repeated higher income by honest work.

I have learnt a lot over the years (2009 my first trip), and many disappointments and a lot of money wasted.

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1 hour ago, ChristianPFC said:

When I was looking for long time in 2012-2014, I had similar problems. But nowadays I sleep better alone and do long time only if the boys suggests or someone I had several good short times with and I suggest long time and specify details. Two years ago I had such case (I asked the boy for long time), and he had to leave at 6 am, so we woke up 5 am to have an hour together, but not worth the extra money, next time leave it at short time.

You can buy smiles, but you can't change their behavior with money.

I had such cases as well, where the boy would rather get a small amount of money by scamming me (e.g. advance payment for travel) instead of a repeated higher income by honest work.

I have learnt a lot over the years (2009 my first trip), and many disappointments and a lot of money wasted.

But your blogs are really useful!

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12 hours ago, ChristianPFC said:

You can buy smiles, but you can't change their behavior with money.

I had such cases as well, where the boy would rather get a small amount of money by scamming me (e.g. advance payment for travel) instead of a repeated higher income by honest work.

 

It looks that we need to be more assertive looking for what we want. I see three options:

- specifying clearly what we expect and being very clear that if expectancy won't be met , tip will be cut

- sticking to known quality guys only or at least mostly. Fortunately there is no shortage of those

- when adventurous , trying new guys, start with short time and expect nothing much and flatly abandon those too greedy , even if extremely attractive.

Fourth option is simple stay home and nurse good memories from the past, if desired

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