Guest aot87 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Im sorry but i cant find the item about long term off tips, How much would guys consider the going rate for a long term off 2-3 weeks, I know its a boring subject, but thats why im saying sorry in advance Quote
Guest Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 It is not boring to me. When I first came to Thailand, the first boy I met I assumed he would need the amount he would make for each day if he was off. So, I paid him 2k a day for a 4 city tour. I have since learned that this was way overboard. I do not think 1,000 - 1,500 baht per day is unreasonable but that depends on what you want him for. Is there sex involved every day? Will he loose his job if he goes off? Will you pay the bar a fee to keep them happy? Are you going to do other things for him? Are you very needy? Are you going to want a BF experience and then not see him again? My main suggestion is to talk to the guy and see what the two of you can come up with. If you are going to keep him for a few weeks and then he goes back to work, I think the range I gave above is good for both parties. If there is more involved there may need to be more or less money depending on your situation. If you were taking him to be a lover and he was not ever going to work again, I would say 15,000 - 30,000 per month is in the right range. Quote
Guest aot87 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Hes a free lancer , who i met on a trip 2 yrs ago, i want him to move in to my condo for my holiday , and yes sex will be on the list , hes really into it Quote
firecat69 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Hes a free lancer , who i met on a trip 2 yrs ago, i want him to move in to my condo for my holiday , and yes sex will be on the list , hes really into it He should be happy with 1000 per day and a bonus at the end if you feel he deserves it. Naturally you alsp pay for all his meals etc and give him some free time every day to be with is friends etc. Quote
Bob Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Rather than have falang suggest what is or isn't an appropriate rate for a long-term stay, why not ask him? I can't imagine taking somebody off for a long time period without having had that discussion upfront. And, rather than asking him "would 'x' amount per day be okay?", I'd just make sure he knows how long you intend to have him stay with you (and, of course, make sure first he's okay with that) and then ask him what he thinks is an approprite daily (or, perhaps, just a lump sum) fee. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Once again, Bob comes up with the voice of reason. Excellent advice! Quote
Gaybutton Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I agree with firecat69. 1000 baht per day plus expenses is certainly plenty. Three weeks, with some free time to do his own thing, plus even more of a tip at the end is what these boys pray for. I would not ask, "Is this ok for you?" I already know that it is. In my opinion, as soon as you start asking instead of offering, now you've just given him leeway to try to get more. I would limit it to a take it or leave it offer, making sure he understands what you are offering, your expectations, what will take place during those three weeks, where you'll be going if you plan any trips, whether he'll be getting to eat his Thai food, etc. Somehow I doubt he would expect to get a better offer that day. He'll be delighted with it and he won't be pretending to be delighted with it. He really will be. I would, however, make sure you have some sort of understanding that permits you to have an amicable "escape" method, in case things don't work out as you are hoping. Three weeks can be a very long time if what you expect and what you get turn out to be two different things. The same goes for him, by the way. I would make it clear to him that if at any time he wants out, it will not be a problem and he will still get the per-day amount you had promised. Quote
Guest tdperhs Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I disagree with Bob on this. If you go into negotiations without a reasonable ball park figure in mind, you could get taken. GT's generosity is legend. GB is reflective of those of us who live on a fixed income and are heavily impacted by currency fluctuations. The boys, however, are not. Their expenses + a 2 1/2% inflation rate remain the same. I am a bit more conservative than those I mentioned. My recommendation: 15K for 3 weeks. A K in the hand is worth ...etc. Not many boys will make that much in two months. Of course, if he is really popular and gets a lot of offs, the price goes up. Think competitive market. Quote
Bob Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I wasn't suggesting that you just agree on whatever the kid says. And I already know in the back of my head that I'd pay about 1000 baht per day (plus expenses). If, for 21 days, he was thinking, let's say, 10k or 15k, then I'd say sure, no problem, and likely pay him more. If he said 40k and stood on that figure, that's another reason I'd want the discussion up front (cause he wouldn't be going with me). Presuming we make a deal, I'd likely ask him if he wanted all the money at the end or if he wanted some of it as time elapsed. The bottom-line is I would want him to have fun....and to not be worrying about whether this "old falang" is going to be a cheap charlie or whatever. To get that out of the way, make the deal up front. Then have fun. Quote
Guest aot87 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Since the above items were sent , i have spoken to the boy on the phone and agreed a sum of 1000 per day plus I would pay the rent for his room for the period hes with me Quote
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Since the above items were sent , i have spoken to the boy on the phone and agreed a sum of 1000 per day plus I would pay the rent for his room for the period hes with me A very good deal for him and I hope that he shows he appreciation to you by making your trip fantastic! Quote
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Why not 1000 a day, with a few thousand extra at the end if he's good? Then there's some incentive to behave well. As for paying his rent, doesn't he share a room with you, so that's not an issue? Regarding his existing room, it probably costs very little & there's no point in volunteering to pay that, especially if he might put a mark up on the price you pay. I guess you will be buying his meals during the stay, so he will gain there too. You can hardly ask him to wait outside the restaurant if you are on long time. Quote