Trump media stock now down 75%

[stevenkesslar]

On 9/6/2024 at 9:02 AM, RockyRoadTravel said:

And all of this had nothing to do with DJT stocks. Continuing to fall

Actually, I would argue it does.   Trump has always been an ass kisser and whore for Russian money.  Russian real estate investors.  Russian banks.  Russian anything.  Maybe Melania doesn't want to kiss Donald anymore because he knows Donald's lips have been all over Vlad and his genocide money.  It is simply disgusting.  Who would want to be near that repulsive shit? Other than Trump?

We know that in addition to Vlad's genocide money, Trump hungrily licked at the porn/crime/shady money of Russian scum investors to get his losing shell game started in the first place.  Some Caribbean island and some small bank and money for the porn industry. It all fits. Oh, and the genocide money and blood money all parade under the fake auspices of ES FamilyTrust. Yeah, Family values.  Right.

It's Russian scum.  It's Russian genocide money.  It's Russian blood money.  No question about it.

When Trump loses and ends up in jail his Russian genocide money/blood money/shell game stock will collapse and be worth less than pond scum.  He deserves it.

[Moses]

7 hours ago, unicorn said:

Trump, an experienced politician?

Why do you want to discuss Trump, quoting my opinion about Kamala's personal qualities? My opinion about Trump is known - he is a neo-Nazi.

Am I right in understanding that you cannot refute Kamala's weakness and unsuitability for the role of a national leader and the fact of Putin's support for Kamala, and therefore you switch to Trump?

Despite Biden's resignation, America still faces a "pick one of the two worst" choice: if you vote for Trump, you support a neo-Nazi; if you vote for Kamala, you are in the same boat as Putin.

[KeepItReal]

7 hours ago, Moses said:

 

Despite Biden's resignation, America still faces a "pick one of the two worst" choice: if you vote for Trump, you support a neo-Nazi; if you vote for Kamala, you are in the same boat as Putin.

So true! Choosing between politicians is always a choice between the worst society has to offer. That's not new.  But let's look at the silver lining - at least we get to choice. When it comes to some other countries (cough...Russia) there is no choice given. 

[Moses]

2 hours ago, KeepItReal said:

When it comes to some other countries (cough...Russia) there is no choice given. 

Yeah, esp. in some (cough) 15 countries where is the same king Charles III. And he is king "just because" has specific Family name. And to change him to another person is treason.

[Goober]

1 hour ago, Moses said:

Yeah, esp. in some (cough) 15 countries where is the same king Charles III. And he is king "just because" has specific Family name. And to change him to another person is treason.

Equating the authority given to King Charles III to that of Putin is a whole new level of stupidity.

[stevenkesslar]

18 hours ago, Moses said:

Despite Biden's resignation, America still faces a "pick one of the two worst" choice: if you vote for Trump, you support a neo-Nazi; if you vote for Kamala, you are in the same boat as Putin.

Can we just all be the tiniest bit realistic and face facts, guys?  I mean, really!

Genocide World is a failed state.  The Russian Federation is going to collapse.  It's not a question of whether that is true.  It's a question of when. 

Yeah, the Soviet Union was really something.  But guess what?  It collapsed.  Compared to that, Putin is a weak limp useless murderer. And he knows it.  He has spent his whole failed dictatorship (well, okay, he did win in rigged elections) whining like the nasty little murderous bitch he is. Those are just facts.

So Americans and Europeans have no sympathy for the whining nasty failing bitch, or the people he murders so he and his family and kleptocrats can get rich.  Yeah, the far right in Europe will get in bed with Genocide Man mostly because they don't war in their countries.  But that's a minority.

Oh, and did I mention most Ukrainians would happily slit @Moses throat and gut him in a heartbeat?  I'm not trying to be nasty or rude. Quite the opposite.  I feel sorry for you Russians. 

Ukrainians used to sympathize with you.  Now they hate you.  They would celebrate if America nuked Moscow tomorrow and turned it into a radioactive wasteland, never to rise again. These are just facts.  Read the polls.  They hate you.  Ukrainains and Poles in particular hate Russians.  Despite all of your failing nasty bitch's best efforts to divide them.  And I sympathize with Russians who have no power to do anything about it.

You can complain and be poisoned or shot in the head, like so many critics and Putin opponents. Or you can shut up and be sent off to Ukraine to be processed into fertilizer.  Or, you can just get the fuck out, like so many of Russia's best and brightest have.  We welcome them.  

So, yes.  It's just a fact that Murderous Vlad and Donald The Felon lick each other's asses.  And they will lie about it even when each other's shit is clearly smeared all over each other's faces. What's a lyin murderin autocrat and an autocrat-wannabe gonna do, for Pete's sake?

Why the Kremlin Loves Social Media

This week’s indictment of a social media content firm shows how it’s getting easier and easier for Russia to influence U.S. elections.

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They want to polarize and divide countries, especially the U.S., which has a two-party system. Whenever a country is focusing on domestic disputes and arguments, its foreign policy becomes much weaker. We saw that with the Ukraine aid that was delayed for months and months and months, and that’s basically their goal: to create these internal conflicts, so the foreign policy of various countries becomes much weaker and indecisive.

That's the game.   That's the Big Lie.  And Donald The Felon is the useful idiot playing right into Murderous Vlad's genocidal hands.

I hope you are a Russian bot, @Moses.  Because that is better than being a real Russian in your wretched genocidal country, that is failing both economically and politically.

Sure, go ahead and cite the bullshit Murderous Vlad shoves down your throats. You have no choice.  The US is growing ten times as fast as Russia, even on your best day. 

So you can stir up an economy by getting certain people rich by sending prisoners and ethnic minorities to Ukraine to be processed into grass that cows shit on.  But that's exactly why the Russian Federation is dooming itself.  Even as it thinks it is somehow dividing America or dividing Europe. You are doomed.  It is just that simple.

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But the famous thing about Russian disinformation is that it rarely even mentions Russia [because it is a failed piece of shit - my comments added]. So it’s usually talking about other issues, for example, the southern border of the U.S. or woke culture or losing traditional values. I think the main narrative that is pushed is that the U.S. shouldn’t send any more money to Ukraine, because there are so many domestic problems that should be fixed instead. [Meanwhile, Russia is a failed piece of shit country - my comments added.]

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The image that Russia tries to create of themselves, it’s not the same as reality. They just decide, OK, let’s not talk about Russia at all. Let’s talk about other countries and their problems. It’s very different from China. China likes talking about China and how great they are. 

I mean, let's face facts.  Murderous Vlad is a hated monster.  He is hated all over the world.  So what is there to brag about, anyway?

I mean, I get it.  China likes to brag about being the world leader when it comes to electric cars.  Woo hoo!  America likes to brag about being the leader at most cutting edge technologies. Including social media, which Genocide Man thinks he is cleverly using to divide us.

Meanwhile, Russians brag about their genocide in Ukraine, killing innocent women and children, and being the world leader in turning their own people into fertilizer to get crooked and criminal kleptocrats rich. Woo hoo! 

That's the point.  They don't brag about it.  How can they?  Money and blood and rot is not how you build a great country.

Vlad thinks he is winning the war.  He did win a battle in 2016, when he helped Trump win.  But he is clearly losing the war.

Poor Genocide Man!  I do feel for the Russian people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Moses]

What I like about this discussion is that not a single Democrat defends Kamala because she is indefensible - she is a weak politician, a bad speaker, has unclear positions on a significant range of issues, and at the same time takes a rather leftist position.

So the Democrats, realizing how weak a candidate and placeholder Kamala is, immediately steer the discussion to Trump, Russia, Putin. Gentlemen, you are fleeing from reality.

Let's face it: even after Biden's resignation, the selfishness of both major parties still forces Americans to choose between the two worst candidates in modern US history: neo-Nazi and PlaceHolder.

[Moses]

15 hours ago, Goober said:

given to King Charles III

"Given"? By whom?

Monarchies, despite their symbolic role and support for national identity, have a negative impact on modern society. They reinforce social inequality, political stagnation, and consume public resources, making them incompatible with the values of democracy, equality, and justice.

Monarchies create the idea in citizens that power and wealth are hereditary privileges, not the result of work or achievement. This has a demotivating effect on society, weakening the ideas of meritocracy. Monarchy supports the class system, preventing social equality.

[Goober]

3 hours ago, Moses said:

"Given"? By whom?

Monarchies, despite their symbolic role and support for national identity, have a negative impact on modern society. They reinforce social inequality, political stagnation, and consume public resources, making them incompatible with the values of democracy, equality, and justice.

Monarchies create the idea in citizens that power and wealth are hereditary privileges, not the result of work or achievement. This has a demotivating effect on society, weakening the ideas of meritocracy. Monarchy supports the class system, preventing social equality.

You forgot to include the fact that as the British monarch, King Charles III has the special privilege to drive in his country without having a driver's license. So, in the supposed opinion of a poser, that equates to Putin's unfettered ability to order the murder of his opponents.

[Moses]

26 minutes ago, Goober said:

So, in the supposed opinion of a poser

You missed the point, dear, that's the GPT chat's opinion on monarchies. So to speak: sums up the state of affairs:

 

And your habit of hanging labels reveals that you are a person of not very high culture and little experience in public debate.

[RockyRoadTravel]

4 hours ago, Moses said:

And your habit of hanging labels reveals that you are a person of not very high culture and little experience in public debate.

Like this nonsense "endorsement", do you blindly believe everything that Putin says? 

More important question, how are your DJT stocks doing? Or were you lucky enough not to be stupid enough to buy any of the scam artist's latest grift? 

[Moses]

1 hour ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

do you blindly believe everything that Putin says

Dear, I wrote here few month before Putin, what for Kremlin Biden's (now - Kamala's) victory is the best event. In such situation US will have very unstable, but still predictable political situation - House and Senate will have permanent fight and Senate will vandalize procedures and sabotage president's decision.

Do you remember what it took 8 months to make law about sending weapon to Ukraine? The same will be under the next Dem. president.

With Trump's victory situation will be unstable AND unpredictable, because he is too much impulsive. 

So Putin told truth - Kamala's victory is preferable for Russia: her political position is known, she is predictable and that allows to calculate future movements.

 

[Goober]

5 hours ago, Moses said:

You missed the point, dear, that's the GPT chat's opinion on monarchies. So to speak: sums up the state of affairs:

 

And your habit of hanging labels reveals that you are a person of not very high culture and little experience in public debate.

My apologies. Even though you failed to credit the source of your post (quite odd given your vast experience in public debate), I should have known it wasn't an original thought of yours.

Evidently, you failed to cite ChatGPT when you decided to compare King Charles III to Putin. Here's what ChatGPT states about the comparison:
Role and Power:

King Charles III: As the King of the United Kingdom, Charles III holds a ceremonial and symbolic position with limited political power. His role is largely to represent the nation, perform ceremonial duties, and support various charitable causes.

Vladimir Putin: As the President of Russia, Putin wields significant executive power. He has been a central figure in shaping Russian domestic and foreign policies and has been influential in global geopolitics.

Governance:

 

King Charles III: The UK is a constitutional monarchy, meaning Charles III's powers are largely symbolic, with real political power resting with elected officials in Parliament.

Vladimir Putin: Putin has been in power in various capacities since 1999, either as President or Prime Minister. His governance style has been characterized by strong central control, and he has been criticized for undermining democratic institutions and human rights.

Controversies:

 

King Charles III: His controversies have been more related to personal matters, such as past relationships or environmental advocacy. However, these have not involved major political or legal disputes.

Vladimir Putin: Putin has faced numerous allegations, including corruption, suppression of political opposition, censorship, and involvement in international conflicts, such as the annexation of Crimea and the conflict in Ukraine.

Public Perception:

 

King Charles III: Generally viewed as a figurehead with limited direct impact on policy. Public perception varies based on his personal actions and public engagements.

Vladimir Putin: Public perception is highly polarized. In Russia, he has significant support among certain segments of the population, while internationally, he is often criticized for his authoritarian practices and international policies.

In summary, King Charles III and Vladimir Putin operate in very different capacities with different levels of influence and types of controversies surrounding them.

[RockyRoadTravel]

58 minutes ago, Moses said:

Dear, I wrote here few month before Putin, what for Kremlin Biden's (now - Kamala's) victory is the best event. In such situation US will have very unstable, but still predictable political situation - House and Senate will have permanent fight and Senate will vandalize procedures and sabotage president's decision.

Do you remember what it took 8 months to make law about sending weapon to Ukraine? The same will be under the next Dem. president.

With Trump's victory situation will be unstable AND unpredictable, because he is too much impulsive. 

So Putin told truth - Kamala's victory is preferable for Russia: her political position is known, she is predictable and that allows to calculate future movements.

 

Again, old dear, do you naively believe everything Putin says?  And how are your Trump stocks doing?  Or were you luckily not stupid enough to invest in the grifters latest con?

[Moses]

48 minutes ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

do you naively believe everything Putin says

Why you continue to asking about "believing"? He is not a messiah "to believe". 

Simple analysis says - Dems in general and Kamala in particular are more preferable for Russia. I wrote that few month ago here on forum before Kremlin explained their point of view.

Their(Dem) position is clear, it not depends on leader of party, and by this reason is more stable. Love they Russia or hate - it isn't important: every step is predictable and all is going as chess party: "they will make this step, we will answer with that step, then they will make that step and we will answer with this step".

Like with sanctions: sanctions are implemented, but Russian GDP is growing every month, international trade is going well and one by one companies in world receive exemptions from sanction - titanium for Airbus, oil to Hungary and so on...  It was predictable, so Russia prepared in advance own payment system, made agreements about trade in national currencies and so on...

With Trump is more hard to predict - he in 6 month declared Kim (North Korea) the best friend, then the worst enemy, then again best friend. Orange clown is too much impulsive.

 

[RockyRoadTravel]

Just now, Moses said:

Why you continue to asking about "believing"? He is not a messiah "to believe". 

Simple analysis says - Dems in general and Kamala in particular are more preferable for Russia. Their position is clear, it not depends on leader of party, and by this reason is more stable. Love they Russia or hate - it isn't important: every step is predictable and all is going as chess party: "they will make this step, we will answer with that step, then they will make that step and we will answer with this step".

Like with sanctions: sanctions are implemented, but Russian GDP is growing every month, international trade is going well and one by one companies in world receive exemptions from sanction - titanium for Airbus, oil to Hungary and so on...  It was predictable, so Russia prepared in advance own payment system, made agreements about trade in national currencies and so on...

With Trump is more hard to predict - he in 6 month made Kim (North Korea) the best friend, then the worst enemy, then again best friend. Orange clown is too much impulsive.

 

You naively believe that Putin endorses Harris simply because Putin "said so", ignoring all of the history and evidence that his lap dog Trump is who Putin has always actively supported. 

Buy even more Trump stock Moses. buy. buy. buy. You appear to be the perfect Trump target. 

[Moses]

1 minute ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

You naively believe that Putin endorses Harris simply because Putin "said so", ignoring all of the history and evidence that his lap dog Trump is who Putin has always actively supported. 

Buy even more Trump stock Moses. buy. buy. buy. You appear to be the perfect Trump target. 

You know what I like most about your answers? You don't deny anything I say. The reasons are clear - you have nothing to object to - the facts confirm everything I wrote. Instead, you continue to insist on my "faith".

Whatever you like, you can think of me as believing in "Saint Putin". And what I like most about what he said is that I said it several months before he did.

[RockyRoadTravel]

2 minutes ago, Moses said:

You know what I like most about your answers? You don't deny anything I say. The reasons are clear - you have nothing to object to - the facts confirm everything I wrote. Instead, you continue to insist on my "faith".

Whatever you like, you can think of me as believing in "Saint Putin". And what I like most about what he said is that I said it several months before he did.

You keep on believing everything Putin says because he "said so".  And buy up all the Trump stock you can.  

[unicorn]

On 9/8/2024 at 1:11 PM, Moses said:

Yeah, esp. in some (cough) 15 countries where is the same king Charles III. And he is king "just because" has specific Family name. And to change him to another person is treason.

Yes, everyone knows that King Charles III of Jamaica is a despotic absolute monarch! 😄

I pity poor Canadians and Aussies to live under the thumb of this absolute ruler.

Anyone who speaks ill of the King of New Zealand will be taken to the Tower of London to be beheaded!!

[unicorn]

16 hours ago, Moses said:

"Given"? By whom?... Monarchy supports the class system, preventing social equality.

Well, I will be the first to admit that I don't understand why the people of England, much less those of Belize and Papua New Guinea want to continue to have do-nothing rulers. However, for reasons not quite clear to me, they do, and that is their choice to make. At least in England, they can correctly claim that the monarch brings in more tourism dollars than the English spend on the monarch (or so they say). I really don't understand why the Canadians spend all of their own money supporting their figurehead eskimo viceroy. I don't think they cost as much, though as Putin, who spent almost US$1 billion building himself a palace/Дворец Путина on the Black Sea coast. At least the people under Charles III can give him to boot if they want to. 

https://www.proekt.media/en/guide-en/putin-palace-gelendzhik/

[stevenkesslar]

14 hours ago, Moses said:

You know what I like most about your answers? You don't deny anything I say.

And you don't deny anything I say.  Because it is true.

Genocide Man wants his pal Donald J. Genocide to win. Putin is good at disinformation, murder, killing democracy, and killing economies.  So he doesn't want to talk about Genocide World and how fucked up it is.  I don't blame Genocide Man.  He runs a failed federation that will collapse after he dies.

Putin's best hope is to try to use democracy against itself with his disinformation and lies.   I mean, really?   Who the fuck wants to be a Russian right now?  Nobody!  Not the Chinese.  Not Americans.  Not Europeans.  Not even Indians, who will buy your weapons.  Everybody hates Putin and his genocide.

So instead of showing off what a miserable deadly mess Russia is, Putin is counting on the help of Donald J. Genocide.

 

Donald J. Genocide is a threat to America's national security that will help Putin and his genocide.

That is just a fact.

I mean, if some left wing Democrat said it, you could say they are just biased and partisan.

Donald Trump's Vice President is saying Donald J. Genocide is a threat to national security and a pal of Putin.

Donald Trump's Defense Secretary is saying Donald J. Genocide is a threat to our national security and a pal of Putin.

Donald Trump's National Security Adviser is saying Donald J. Genocide is a threat to our national security and a pal of Putin.

Donald Trump's Joint Chiefs of Staff is saying Donald J. Genocide is a threat to our national security and a pal of Putin.

Of course Putin does not want to brag about his genocide.  Of course Putin wants to deny his slaughter of innocent Ukrainian women and children.  Of course Genocide Man wants to use disinformation to try to divide and conquer and get his pal Donald J. Genocide elected.

If Donald J. Genocide wants the help of Genocide Man's pals to start his crappy and failing social media farce in a skanky but legal manner, that is his business.  But we're not going to let Genocide Man elect Donald J. Genocide so he can have his way with Ukraine, and try to undermine global democracy.

This is why the Russian Federation is doomed.  Name one time - ever - in all of human history, that a Genocide Man won.  When did Hitler win?  When did Stalin win?  When did Pol Pot win? 

Putin will be remembered for all time as the genocidal monster he is.  That's just a fact.

[Moses]

3 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

And you don't deny anything I say.  Because it is true.

Because I have golden rule "never have dispute with believers". 

People who are ready to dispute, discuss facts. You bring here your "Saint Biden" and then "Saint Kamala". Both are weakest candidates to presidents. Then you continue to say I'm for Trump. While it is clearly I'm not.

Then you bring here this nonsense about Putin and Trump from Western medias. And nonstop chanting about "Genocide" while no one court besides puppet-curt in Ukraine acknowledged Russian action in Ukraine as genocide.

You are just 100% believer. What should I do? Again and again explain to you facts? You don't read them - they are against your belief, so you just ignore and decline them, as all believers do.

[stevenkesslar]

4 hours ago, Moses said:

Then you bring here this nonsense about Putin and Trump from Western medias. And nonstop chanting about "Genocide" while no one court besides puppet-curt in Ukraine acknowledged Russian action in Ukraine as genocide.

I was right.  You haven't denied a thing I said.

Russia is rotten.  Opponents of Genocide Man are not sent to trials in courts.  They are shot in the head.

Russia is rotten.  Putin and his kleptocrats invade Ukraine and slaughter women and children.  It is genocide.

Russia is rotten.   There is no democracy, and no just legal system.

Russia is rotten.  Since your system sucks, and you can't brag about it, all Putin can do is cynically try to use Western democracy to divide and conquer.  You don't have a just legal system, and Putin will kill anyone who demands it.

So your argument is that genocide doesn't even exist unless some court Putin doesn't believe in anyway says it exists.  And when some court Putin doesn't believe in says it exists, well Putin doesn't believe in them anyway.

It's what happens in genocidal authoritarian countries like Russia.  If you don't do what Putin wants, you die.  Ask any Ukrainian man, woman, or child.  But your argument is that there is no truth if Putin says so.  There is no genocide, unless Putin proclaims himself to be the genocidal monster he is.

Russia is a rotten, failing, weak nation that knows nothing about democracy and a just legal system.  You can't say one good thing about this rotten failing place. Other than that people who don't want to be sent to Ukraine to die by Genocide Man and who do want to have freedom leave.

[Moses]

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

I was right.

You are right only in your dreams.

[stevenkesslar]

1 minute ago, Moses said:

You are right only in your dreams.

I wish.

I wish I was only dreaming that Genocide Man has viciously slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people, including many innocent women and kids.  That would be a nightmare, not a dream.  But I wish it was not real.

You are a one note wonder.  You back Putin, and his monstrous genocide.  You can not deny his murderous slaughter is real. So you play bullshit games, as if there was really a just legal system in rotten Russia.  You say, "Oh, name the court where Genocide Man has been proven to commit genocide. 

7 hours ago, Moses said:

And nonstop chanting about "Genocide" while no one court besides puppet-curt in Ukraine acknowledged Russian action in Ukraine as genocide.

And then in the next sentence YOU name the court, and then dismiss it.  Proving that Ukrainians don't count to you.  You don't give a shit.  You back Genocide Man, and his mass murder.  To you, Ukrainians are just people Russia's prisoners and ethnic minorities are paid to slaughter, until they are turned into fertilizer themselves.

These are just facts.  You can not deny them.  You just try to bullshit your way through them or try to change the subject by attacking Harris or democracy.  You make weak, failed arguments to support a weak, failed genocidal monster.