Rio and São Paulo: past experiences

[Tantric]

When I stumbled across these forums, I was shocked that people openly and unashamedly recount their experiences and recommendations for the sinister practice of sex tourism. What a bunch of pervs you are!

I feel right at home 🤗

Since this is my first post, I’ll start with the country where I have the most (and most recent) experiences: Brazil.  Rather than repeating what everybody else has already said, I’ll just highlight some of the salient points.  Forgive any duplication with other threads.  I understand that I cannot yet see all threads (since I’m a newbie) so my post my contain ideas that are already discussed in those invisible threads.

In/out:  I always order in when playing from Grindr or meeting a GP from an ad.  When booking my AirBnB, I therefore avoid apartments that have rules along the lines of “Only persons registered at the time of booking are allowed in the apartment.”  I’ll only use a hotel in a country that I haven’t visited (and only if I’m concerned about safety there).  And when reserving that hotel, I’ll book it for two persons (to avoid a situation where the desk says that only one person is allowed in the room). In Rio I always stay in the Ipanema/Copacabana neighborhoods; in SP, always Consolação/Jardins.

Ads:  I use Grindr (for playing and for GPs), garotocomlocal and vivalocal.  I enjoy tantra massages but also like screwing.  I have hired two masseurs from vivalocal who advertise “massage only” to receive a tantra/naked massage… and ended up making out and having lots of foreplay with one and fucking the other one.  In fact, that is my ideal GP date.  Regarding the ad photos/videos, I’ve seen many ads over the last few years with the same old photos.   (I do the same thing with my Grindr pics, so:  pot, kettle). I also realized that many of the GPs do commercial photoshoots when they’re in peak condition (eg, after finishing a cycle of steroids).  The difference between their peak condition and their standard condition might be significant.  Of course, even in their non-peak condition they are usually gorgeous.  So do not be disappointed if the 8-pack abs are missing when you meet your online GP in person.

Online GP prices:  When establishing contact with GPs, I use WhatsApp with a local number (from a local SIM) and write in Portuguese in an effort to not receive an inflated tourist price.  Because I don’t want to give the GP a step-by-step play of everything that I want him to do, I usually just inform the GP that I enjoy massages and that I am top.  Many GPs have one price for massages, plus another price for bottoming (which, if I remember correctly, they refer to as the “full program”).  They usually also have a surcharge for Uber.  To avoid any issues, I now am always clear that I am paying one single price for their time and that there are no surcharges.  I usually get a lot of pushback regarding the Uber, but I prefer GPs who are flexible, so I stick with that filter.  As a result, all of the GPs who I do not filter out have been great and have always received generous tips (much more than what the Uber surcharge would have been).

Rejecting GPs:  Chemistry is extremely important to me.  If the GP has arrived in the last 120 seconds and no clothes have been removed, I will only give him the equivalent of what the Uber charge would have been but not the price of the massage/program.  Luckily that has only happened once in the last 18 years. 

Dance clubs:  I never finished mourning Le Boy (at the Ipanema/Copacabana intersection) and then had to start grieving the closure of The Week (Rio).  So I don’t even bother with dance clubs when I visit Rio these days.  São Paulo has many more options for nightlife, although frankly I haven’t tried any of the SP dance clubs because I’m always too busy enjoying the REAL reason for my trip.

Safety:  I use Uber instead of taxis.  I never use street trade.  The AirBnBs that I choose all have a doorman.  A couple of times I made GPs send me (via WhatsApp) a copy of the ID that they would be showing to the doorman.  I walk a lot while in Brazil but rare venture beyond Ipanema/Copacabana or Consolação/Jardins. While there, my clothes are never flashy; just basic shorts, tank top and sandals. No jewelry or watch.  No phone in hand.  No camera.  When going to the beach, instead of wearing speedos I wear a swimsuit with a pocket and only take sunscreen, a book and enough money to rent a lounge and umbrella (and to buy a couple of drinks), but leave my cards, cash and phone in the AirBnB.  Fortunately (knocking on wood as I type this) I personally haven’t had any physical safety issues (but do not know people who were not being cautious and were mugged or robbed at gunpoint). 

Gyms:  Relatively inexpensive day passes are available at most conventional gyms.  As you might imagine, the eye candy is there incredible.  I never hooked up directly from the gym but did hook up on Grindr with someone who went to my gym.

Rio vs SP:  When I’m more in the mood for the beach and relaxing (with sex as an added bonus), definitely Rio.  When I’m more in the mood for sex, definitely SP.  If you’re mostly a fan of online GPs, note that many of them do travel circuits throughout Brazil.  So don’t plan on going to a certain city just for one particular GP, since it is highly possible that he may have moved on to his next destination when you arrive. 

 

OK, I guess that’s (more than) enough for now.  Hopefully someone finds this helpful.

[buttercawan]

2 hours ago, Tantric said:

Dance clubs:  I never finished mourning Le Boy (at the Ipanema/Copacabana intersection) and then had to start grieving the closure of The Week (Rio).  So I don’t even bother with dance clubs when I visit Rio these days.  São Paulo has many more options for nightlife, although frankly I haven’t tried any of the SP dance clubs because I’m always too busy enjoying the REAL reason for my trip.

https://thehomeclub.com.br/

https://www.instagram.com/thehomerio

[Tantric]

1 hour ago, buttercawan said:

https://thehomeclub.com.br/

https://www.instagram.com/thehomerio

Thanks @buttercawan!

That’s great news.  I didn’t know about this.  (BTW, I was temporarily confused by the old event on their website.  It seems the better URL is https://tnwbrazil.com.br.)

I guess I’ll pack my earplugs 🙉

[12is12]

Apologize if I'm out of line, Tantric:

How old r u, or in which age group?

[Tantric]

7 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Apologize if I'm out of line, Tantric:

How old r u, or in which age group?

40-ish

(And of course nobody who is 39 says that they are 40-ish, so…) 😉

[12is12]

(-:     thx

Reading ur GREAT post I got the feeling that u were in a more advantageous age group than mine (67).....

[AsianExplorer]

On 8/26/2024 at 11:33 AM, Tantric said:

 Forgive any duplication with other threads. 

never tired of reading those! please share more. love,

[Tantric]

On 8/27/2024 at 6:24 AM, 12is12 said:

(-:     thx

Reading ur GREAT post I got the feeling that u were in a more advantageous age group than mine (67).....

Every age group has its advantages! The key is to recognize and leverage them before it’s too late.😉

[12is12]

In sexual matters I'd say that from a certain age advantages decrease. 

In any case, a hypothesis perhaps worthy of its own thread....

[snwbrdr015]

Fantastic post! Thanks. Any remarks on Salvador? That will be my next adventure....

[BlkSuperman]

On 8/26/2024 at 11:33 AM, Tantric said:

Rio vs SP:  When I’m more in the mood for the beach and relaxing (with sex as an added bonus), definitely Rio.  When I’m more in the mood for sex, definitely SP.  If you’re mostly a fan of online GPs, note that many of them do travel circuits throughout Brazil.  So don’t plan on going to a certain city just for one particular GP, since it is highly possible that he may have moved on to his next destination when you arrive. 

Wait! GREAT POST! So you're saying the sex is better in Sao Paulo? We've only been to Rio, but my husband is steadfast on going to Sao Paulo for PRIDE next year. Is the Lagoa sauna more active than the ones in Rio? Thanks again for the informative post.

[Tantric]

2 hours ago, BlkSuperman said:

Wait! GREAT POST! So you're saying the sex is better in Sao Paulo? We've only been to Rio, but my husband is steadfast on going to Sao Paulo for PRIDE next year. Is the Lagoa sauna more active than the ones in Rio? Thanks again for the informative post.

Thanks, Mr. Kent!

I haven’t been to any of the saunas in SP.  In fact, the only Brazilian sauna I’ve ever been to is G (in Ipanema), and I personally find it unsexy (although I’ve had fun there during various trips to Rio). Up until now I’ve gone to saunas with the sole intention of playing with other customers.  Now that I’m getting older evolving, I look forward to expanding my range of experiences at other saunas.  

Rio has other things that I enjoy (namely the beach and other outdoorsy stuff), so sex is an added bonus when I go there.  But friends of mine focused exclusively on sex when visiting Rio and they kept themselves busy (and happy).

[vtu27]

Thanks for the share! That's really helpful.

May I ask the exact price of the online massage? How much I should expect for 1 hr?

[Tantric]

17 hours ago, vtu27 said:

Thanks for the share! That's really helpful.

May I ask the exact price of the online massage? How much I should expect for 1 hr?

Here is an overview of the prices for online GPs/masseurs in Rio based on the ones that I contacted (using a Brazilian WhatsApp number and writing in Portuguese) while in Rio last month:  
150, 200, 200, 250, 250, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300, 350, 350, 350, 350, 350, 400, 450, 500, 600. 

Sources were GCL, Grindr, VL and Skokka.  I only met with a few of those GPs.