What do you do in Pattaya (and elsewhere)?

[Guest lvdkeyes]

I have a Brit friend who has been visiting Sri Lanka for many years and has lost 2 boyfriends due to their family pressures to get married. Very sad! I have a Sri Lankan friend who had to move 1/2 way around the world to hide his sexuality from his parents.

[Guest beachlover]

You do? Same. Same. But, I hate beer. How about wine?

LOL. Ok. Whiskey too. Actually she should just be mixing up martinis for us!

 

I have about 10 really good gay friends in the USA that I have had for over 20 years. 9 of them have kids and grandkids. This is not uncommon. I grew up in a very conservative area. If I had stayed there as opposed to moving to NYC, I would have been expected to get married and have children. All my friends did. When I go back to visit them, some are still married and spend time away in LA at the bathhouses when they can get away. Others are divorced and have a new life. Back then, it was hard to not be able to follow what was expected.

 

Holy crap... You think you might have ended up doing that?

 

It took me while to determine the best path to take. What made me decide on the gay thing is this... I can f*ck girls. They turn me on and it's fun and all, but it feels more mechanical. And it never lasts more than 30 or 45 minutes with a girl.

 

The difference with a boy I really like is I can make love for hours and hours and hours until sunrise sometimes. And it's very passionate. Totally different from a girl. I get a crush and fall in love with a boy a lot quicker too. And I can tell my biology makes me much more attracted to their smell than that of a girl. So for long-term happiness, I think this is the best path to choose.

 

I still think it's possible to have kids and start a family and all... But I first want to find the right boy to be my life partner.

 

Wholeheartedly endorsed. Much of my 20s were lost in a fug of darkness unsure how I should move forward with my personal life.

 

Well, for me it was a third of my twenties so we must be making progress!

[Guest fountainhall]

I can f*ck girls. They turn me on and it's fun and all, but it feels more mechanical. And it never lasts more than 30 or 45 minutes with a girl.

 

The difference with a boy I really like is I can make love for hours and hours and hours until sunrise sometimes. And it's very passionate. Totally different from a girl. I get a crush and fall in love with a boy a lot quicker too. And I can tell my biology makes me much more attracted to their smell than that of a girl. So for long-term happiness, I think this is the best path to choose.

I have often wondered what it must be like to swing both ways. Apart from a moment or two in my confused teens when it only happened in my imagination, I have never had the remotest inclination to have sex with a woman. Not that I am against women - far from it. I suppose like many gay guys, I have some wonderful women friends who are as loyal and fun to be with as my gay guy friends. But the thought of actually hunkering down for some hot passionate action makes me completely switch off.

 

I rather liked Julia Robert's line in Notting Hill. In bed with Hugh Grant, she says she cannot understand what men see in a woman's breasts. Neither can I!

[Guest beachlover]

Well, I came to the realisation, which way I truly swing when I hooked up with a girl I chatted up in Singapore one night... then the next night I met a very cute Thai boy in Bangkok. The difference in experience/performance/passion is all described in the post above. Having the two experiences side by side cemented it... The girl in Singapore was fun and certainly enjoyable, but a bit mechanical and all over in half an hour or so. The next night was the total opposite. Until then, I had really been tossing up between the two, wondering, which path to take...

[Guest YardenUK]

...... I had really been tossing up between the two...

 

tossing up or tossing off

 

 

(for those who speak another form of English....... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toss%20off )

[Guest GaySacGuy]

Back on the thread topic...What I do in Ubon is what I would do anywhere. I am retired, have a house, a car, two dogs, a yard, a garden, friends to socialize with and lots of time on the computer..and #1 I have a boyfriend to spend time with.

[Bob]

Back on the thread topic...What I do in Ubon is what I would do anywhere. I am retired, have a house, a car, two dogs, a yard, a garden, friends to socialize with and lots of time on the computer..and #1 I have a boyfriend to spend time with.

 

Yea, I was wondering why there was any difficulty with the topic in the first place. There's tons of things one does every day (take a shower or six, eat, do the laundry, play on the internet, read a book, watch television, listen to music, clean the floors, etc, etc.) and, strangely enough, I do them the same way in Chiangmai as I do them in rural Michigan. And, every now and then, I take in a gogo show, visit a temple, etc., that rural Michigan seems to oddly not offer....

[Guest Astrrro]

I like boys, girls, and ladyboys.

 

Guess that makes me trisexual.

[Guest]

Wholeheartedly endorsed. Much of my 20s were lost in a fug of darkness unsure how I should move forward with my personal life. Thank goodness I could lose myself in a job I really loved. Life really started for me when I moved to Asia and I got away from all those pressures. confusions and uncertainties. And when I realise I almost turned down the chance to work in Hong Kong in favour of a job offer in the USA! Glory! Hallelujah!

 

You made the right choice in Hong Kong.

 

Holy crap... You think you might have ended up doing that?

 

Most likely. I dated girls and I was even engaged at one point. I knew I liked guys better but the though of a family and kids was something I wanted back then.

 

I have often wondered what it must be like to swing both ways.

I have too. I have dated girls in the past. I still see girls from time to time but they have to be perfect. I love a lady that is intelligent, beautiful, witty, yada yada. In other words, almost perfect. For boys, I just like a cute guy. I don't care of they speak English, went to college, laugh at my jokes, etc. I guess that tells you I will have sex with a lady about 1 our of 200 times I do with guys.

 

 

Back on the thread topic...What I do in Ubon is what I would do anywhere. I am retired, have a house, a car, two dogs, a yard, a garden, friends to socialize with and lots of time on the computer..and #1 I have a boyfriend to spend time with.

 

What do I do. I play on the computer. I work out at the gym. I love to go to bars and gogo places. I like to get massages by real massage ladies and guys. I enjoy going to the mall for lunch. I love to play chess at sunset. I like to swim in my pool. I also spend a lot of time just people watching. No place better than Thailand for that.

 

 

Yea, I was wondering why there was any difficulty with the topic in the first place. There's tons of things one does every day (take a shower or six, eat, do the laundry, play on the internet, read a book, watch television, listen to music, clean the floors, etc, etc.) and, strangely enough, I do them the same way in Chiangmai as I do them in rural Michigan. And, every now and then, I take in a gogo show, visit a temple, etc., that rural Michigan seems to oddly not offer....

 

You shower every day?

 

 

I like boys, girls, and ladyboys.

 

Guess that makes me trisexual.

 

Well, you call it what you want. I call it a slut. jk

 

It just means that you have 3 times more people to choose from. Lucky you!

[Bob]

I like boys, girls, and ladyboys.

 

Guess that makes me trisexual.

 

I'm not in your camp but maybe I'm a bit jealous as obviously your buffet is a lot bigger than my buffet!

[Guest Astrrro]

 

 

It just means that you have 3 times more people to choose from. Lucky you!

 

Woody Allen said that being busexual doubles your chances of getting a date on Saturday night. Suppose "a date" is an euphemism.

 

Hey, this is Labor Day weekend, maybe I should go for a trifecta!

[Guest beachlover]

tossing up or tossing off

I knew someone would bring that up. Dirty minds the lot of you...

 

I take in a gogo show, visit a temple, etc., that rural Michigan seems to oddly not offer....

How do you know? Maybe if you got back now this little country town in the middle of no where will have gay gogo bars and a raving gay club filled with cute Thai boys having fun. Things change!

 

I dated girls and I was even engaged at one point.

 

Engaged? aaaaaaaAAAAAAHHHH!

 

I knew I liked guys better but the though of a family and kids was something I wanted back then.

 

I want that too. I think it will still be possible with the right boy though (no I'm not going to get him pregnant).

[Guest fountainhall]

I want that too. I think it will still be possible with the right boy though (no I'm not going to get him pregnant).

Aha! So you're the one who will get pregnant

[Jason1988]

I don't think I'll ever retire... Maybe wind back to working 4 days a week, consulting or overseeing a business. But to not have any productive purpose, even if it's just looking after kids/grandkids or running a charity, just seems terribly depressing.

 

 

I think everyone says that in their youth. But as you get older, wiser and more mature you realize that there is much more

to life than working. I always loved my job, enjoyed the travel, etc., but I now enjoy being retired more.

 

No one on their death bed said: I wish i worked more..or I wish i had taken fewer vacations. No, they say:

I wish I had retired earlier, taken more vacations and enjoyed life more.

 

One day you'll be singing the same song we do. You'll be surprised.

[Guest fountainhall]

One day you'll be singing the same song we do. You'll be surprised.

Although not retired (only doing less work than before), isn't one key to a happy retirement to ease into it gradually, rather than stop work one day and retire the next. I remember the headmaster at my school who had followed the same routine day-in-day-out seemingly for decades. He retired at 65 and dropped dead a few months later - of natural causes, the death notice announced. Of a total inability to cope with such a sudden and complete change in his life, more like.

[Guest lvdkeyes]

I retired October 1, 2004 and left on trip to Thailand to start my retirement on October 4 and have never regretted it for an instant.

[Guest Astrrro]

If you're passionate about your work and it is not stressful, then why not work?

 

But think many guys are stuck in jobs that they really hate. Then to compensate they spend lots of money to ease the pain which means they have to work even longer.

 

I said hasta la vista a couple of years ago without too much saved up. But i have very simple needs.

[Guest beachlover]

I think everyone says that in their youth. But as you get older, wiser and more mature you realize that there is much more

to life than working. I always loved my job, enjoyed the travel, etc., but I now enjoy being retired more.

 

No one on their death bed said: I wish i worked more..or I wish i had taken fewer vacations. No, they say:

I wish I had retired earlier, taken more vacations and enjoyed life more.

 

One day you'll be singing the same song we do. You'll be surprised.

 

That could all be true... I work pretty hard. But aafter a couple of years it's getting to a stage where I can take it easy at times if I want to, thank goodness.

 

In the future I want to have a much larger business, which would allow me to take a step back from day to day dog work and take on a more strategic role. I might oversee things, coach key managers or work on certain areas of the business for short periods of 2-3 months at a time. Nice, stimulating work, but not strenuous.

 

To me, doing something meaningful and productive whilst enjoying it would be much more fulfilling then sitting back and doing nothing but enjoying myself. But that's just me. I think it depends on what you do for a living.

 

Australia's ex-richest man, Kerry Packer was working right up until he died. He put together a massive TV deal with AFL (Australian Football League) just 3-4 days before he died (and I think he knew he was going to die)... it was all a big game to him.

 

If I was living in Pattaya I'd want to be doing something by phone/e-mail. That's what I do when I travel now.

[Guest fountainhall]

That could all be true... I work pretty hard. But aafter a couple of years it's getting to a stage where I can take it easy at times if I want to, thank goodness.

 

In the future I want to have a much larger business, which would allow me to take a step back from day to day dog work and take on a more strategic role. I might oversee things, coach key managers or work on certain areas of the business for short periods of 2-3 months at a time. Nice, stimulating work, but not strenuous.

 

To me, doing something meaningful and productive whilst enjoying it would be much more fulfilling then sitting back and doing nothing but enjoying myself. But that's just me. I think it depends on what you do for a living.

 

Australia's ex-richest man, Kerry Packer was working right up until he died. He put together a massive TV deal with AFL (Australian Football League) just 3-4 days before he died (and I think he knew he was going to die)... it was all a big game to him.

 

If I was living in Pattaya I'd want to be doing something by phone/e-mail. That's what I do when I travel now.

I'm sure we find all that very interesting and wish you luck. But it is largely off-thread, with respect.