Bangkok & Pattaya October / November 2024

[Olddaddy]

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

you can also use bus Your Royal Highness 

Quicker and not much price difference in car 

[emiel1981]

TRIP REPORT SUNDAY IN PATTAYA

No rain this afternoon. Yesterday it was raining almost all day and I was getting so bored. But today it looks fine! So after lunch it was time to relax at the beach. Off course in the "gay area", just after the public toilets. 

The good thing about being in holiday: not having to do anything. Before I knew it, it was time already to head back to the Agate hotel for shower and get ready for evening-program. First dinner at Dick's Cafe and after some drinks at Meeting Point bar. From there you can easily check out the massage boys sitting in front of Foxy Smile, Pattaya #1 Massage and even Soda Massage. And decide on your favorite boy whike enjoying a drink and the friendliness of the bar staff and the white cat "Latte".

The staff of Meeting Point are in close contact with the massage boys at Foxy and Pattaya #1, so if there is any boy there you like the bar staff is happy to go to your boy of choice and invite him to sit with you for a drink before you decide on a massage. 

I decided to go check out the show at M2M, which was very entertaining. The cabaret boys are eyecandy, the ladyboys know how to put on a show. And lipsyncing is in most of the act good and much better than most places in Thailand. 

The show starts at 22h30 and lasts till after midnight. I did had my eyes on one of the massage guys at Foxy Smile, but that place was already closed when I passed it after the M2M show. So I went to the app. Found a hot Cambodian guy with the exact amount of musle I like, working at Toyboy but living in Jomtien complex. He was off and sitting in a bar drinking. Was was willing to join me in my hotel room for 1500baht, saving me the off fee of when I would have picked him up from Toyboy. So my night did have a happy end after all... 

 

[reader]

1 hour ago, abidismaili said:

But do they pay ? Or get it for free ?

They pay like the rest of us.

[jason1975]

1 hour ago, emiel1981 said:

So I went to the app. Found a hot Cambodian guy with the exact amount of musle I like, working at Toyboy but living in Jomtien complex. He was off and sitting in a bar drinking. Was was willing to join me in my hotel room for 1500baht, saving me the off fee of when I would have picked him up from Toyboy. So my night did have a happy end after all... 

 

Those abs!

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

 

He was a very friendly "straight" boy, 

2000baht for massage, touching, mutual sucking. 3000baht if he needs to bottom. This straight boy told me he loves anal stimulation. Because he's straight he doesn't like kissing with a guy... But... There a price on everybody and everything. So when you pay 4000baht kissing is possible according to his "price list".His sucking was nice and his dick also nice to suck. Somehow it was a big turn on to make a straight buy hard... Lol

I have my serious doubts how straight that 'straight' guy is but let him have it

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Quicker and not much price difference in car 

nice to know somebody who calls 143 vs 1200 'not much price difference".

You rich people have it all, sigh.

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

I have my serious doubts how straight that 'straight' guy is but let him have it

Straight and narrow?

[reader]

Rekindles memories of West Side Story, one of my favorite Broadway hits.

[bkkmfj2648]

19 hours ago, vinapu said:

I have my serious doubts how straight that 'straight' guy is but let him have it

at the suggestion of @emiel1981 I also had him.  He is a fun young guy from Tampa, Florida.

as I already posted in the other thread = 

This "straight" guy fits into one of Dr. Joe Kort's categories for straight guys who like anal stimulation and I would also add for who are "cashsexual".

He has a great 6-pack and an average cut cock - which I tried to make orgasm - but no way - as he got hard for a while and then it petered (pun intended) out and became soft.  So, then I let him finish me off with an ok edging - not the best but not the worst.  As Emiel wrote, his massage was average. 

What is amazing is that his price is very reasonable for 2.000 baht because normally in Pattaya the foreigners usually start with prices that are minimum of 3.000 baht and up to 5.000 baht.  The "straight" Russians that I play with require 3.000 and some of the hot BIG dick African's that pass through cost around 4.000 baht - but they are usually all pure muscle with humungous cut cocks.

 

[bkkmfj2648]

On 10/20/2024 at 3:58 AM, emiel1981 said:

Before the 1am 'extra show" started, there were around 6 boys all over us.

of which 1 of them I have a crush on - as he is from Myanmar and ever so sexy.  Here in Pattaya it is very rare to have the privilege to encounter Myanmar guys whereas in BKK it is much easier to encounter them.

Emiel and I, we nicknamed him, Mr. Tuesday, as he was supposed to be in my condo room today for my weekly gay volleyball organized 4 hands massage.  One of the ex stars of X-Boys is personal friends of him (he plays volleyball), and he put my volleyball friend in contact with Mr. Tuesday.  But, unfortunately, Mr. Tuesday had to cancel due to this awful fever + nasty cough that is going around here because of the recent inclement weather.

So, once I can get Mr. Tuesday in my bed I will report back here.....

Today I was provided with a sexy masculine substitute guy from Khon Kaen (Isaan) who was visiting Pattaya for 3 days and my volleyball massage organizer grabbed him at the last minute for my massage today.  He was hot and fun - but in another day he flies back to Khon Kaen - so no repeat looks possible.

[bkkmfj2648]

On 10/21/2024 at 5:55 PM, emiel1981 said:

I decided to go check out the show at M2M, which was very entertaining. The cabaret boys are eyecandy, the ladyboys know how to put on a show. And lipsyncing is in most of the act good and much better than most places in Thailand. 

I fully agree - in my opinion, the M2M show is the BEST cabaret show in the Jomtien Supertown Complex.  But the BEST in all of Pattaya, in my opinion, is the one at Tiffany's as I reported here:

 

[vinapu]

13 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

What is amazing is that his price is very reasonable for 2.000 baht because normally in Pattaya the foreigners usually start with prices that are minimum of 3.000 baht ....

 

likely one of those backpackers who are financing their travels that way ?

[emiel1981]

TRIP REPORT: MORE DAYS IN PATTAYA

The days in Pattaya have been very relaxed. Just what I need before I go on a solo sightseeing trip in China. During daytime at the beach. Reading, listening podcasts, maybe take a short nap. Late afternoon hours are for chilling in hotelroom. Sometimes enjoying a massage. Out for dinner and after some drinks. 

One of the dinners was in 3Mermaids restaurant on top of the Pattaya cliffs. Beautifully views and very nice of you can sit in one of the "birdsnests" overlooking the restaurant and sea. Pre-booking these seats is recommended, but we were lucky there was still a nest available when we turned up unannounced. Thanks to @bkkmfj2648 and his "local friend" for taking me there. Depending on what you choose, food can be a bit pricey. But you also pay for "the experience".

The restaurant is located in Phra Tamnak and there are a few popular restaurants with also great views next to each other. Below picture of Forest restaurant.

 

If you're staying in pattaya I do recommend using the Hornet app besides Grindr. Spent a few bucks on 1 month paid membership and much more twinks show up on Hornet than in Grindr. Worth it.

 

At foxy massage there was a new boy. Arrived in Pattaya 5 days ago but already got recommendations about him. So off course needed to try the new boy out. The 500baht fee for massage place was fixed. But the "tip" for the boy himself was according to him completely up to me. I made sure and gave him reasonable rate of 2000baht but probably new boy needs to learn he has to come up with a minimum tip amount himself during chatting. Before he falls in the hands of a cheap basterd who will maybe only give him 1000baht after his services... 

Very friendly and sweet guy. But English skills very bad. Even simple sentences needed the translation app before he could understand. His massage was nice. Relaxing, sensual. Not hard. And for extra service he really likes to look for what you enjoy to make sure you like what he is doing. When he took a shower afterwards I already thought he was taking long time in bathroom. But found out he made some new pictures for his grindr profile in my bathroom... See one of these pics below. By the way this guy likes making pictures of himself. He is changing his profile pics more often than @vinapu is switching boys when visiting Thailand... 😜🤣

Massageboy smelled familiar when he came out of the bathroom. He had put on some of my perfume, which I didn't mind. 

 

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, emiel1981 said:

One of the dinners was in 3Mermaids restaurant on top of the Pattaya cliffs. Beautifully views and very nice of you can sit in one of the "birdsnests" overlooking the restaurant and sea. Pre-booking these seats is recommended, but we were lucky there was still a nest available when we turned up unannounced. Thanks to @bkkmfj2648 and his "local friend" for taking me there. Depending on what you choose, food can be a bit pricey. But you also pay for "the experience".

I am very happy that you liked our Pattaya cliff sightseeing restaurant tour.  So many of our forum members who come to visit Pattaya tend to only stay in the gay ghetto areas and do not venture out to see the BEST of Pattaya, like:

• These many cliff restaurants (Sky Gallery, Chocolate Factory, The Forest, 3 Mermaids, Oxygen) that sit directly above Cosy Beach in Prathamnak hill with stunning sunset views of the sunset behind nearby Koh Larn island,
• 
• Koh Larn island,
•  
• Na Jomtien - with the wonderful restaurants (Bacco Beach, Cave Beach Club) that literally sit on the beach sand.  More info here  https://guides.traveldailymedia.com/najomtien 
• 
• Big Buddha hill which includes the Phra Tamnak Mountain Viewpoint with a stunning view of Pattaya harbor from above https://www.tourismthailand.org/Attraction/phra-tamnak-mountain-viewpoint
• The nearby City Coffee Pattaya with amazing views of the Pattaya harbor with the nearby declining steps onto the giant Pattaya sign that adorns the harbor.  I tease my local Thai friends that this giant sign is like the Hollywood sign back in the USA.  https://www.facebook.com/p/City-Coffee-Pattaya-100070351723813/
• https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/280636152/pattaya-city-sign-viewpoint/
• 

1 hour ago, emiel1981 said:

If you're staying in pattaya I do recommend using the Hornet app besides Grindr. Spent a few bucks on 1 month paid membership and much more twinks show up on Hornet than in Grindr. Worth it.

Yes @emiel1981, you have been illuminated by this fact.  Grindr in Pattaya only shows a smaller limited number of the available guys where I estimate that Hornet has double the number of available guy profiles in Pattaya than Grindr does.  Furthermore, the Grindr feed is cluttered with all of the ladyboy profiles.

1 hour ago, emiel1981 said:

At foxy massage there was a new boy. Arrived in Pattaya 5 days ago but already got recommendations about him. So off course needed to try the new boy out.

and after @emiel1981 told me that he had a pleasant experience with this new guy (name is Joy), then I had to have him on the next day and I can only reiterate what our Emiel already wrote in his review about Joy.  Joy is so new, he just arrived 5 days prior to Pattaya directly from the Isaan town = Si Sa Ket and when he came to my condo he rode his motorbike and was lost and I had to guide him to my condo.  Very fresh and still wet behind the years....

 

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Before he falls in the hands of a cheap basterd who will maybe only give him 1000baht after his services... 

Keep in mind you're in Pattaya not BKK....setting a new guys expectations too high isn't healthy either, no?

[Foolish]

6 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Keep in mind you're in Pattaya not BKK....setting a new guys expectations too high isn't healthy either, no?

Just curious why boys in pattaya get less than in BKK? I would have tot that since it is a major resort, the prices should be the same?

[Olddaddy]

4 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Before he falls in the hands of a cheap basterd who will maybe only give him 1000baht after his services... 

1000b?

I just offer 700 😁🫢some take it ...some don't 

[floridarob]

Just now, Foolish said:

Just curious why boys in pattaya get less than in BKK? I would have tot that since it is a major resort, the prices should be the same?

Everything in Pattaya is less expensive...cost of living, rent, hotels, drinks, etc... why is Indonesia cheaper than BKK why is NYC more expensive?

[Tantric]

7 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

One of the dinners was in 3Mermaids restaurant on top of the Pattaya cliffs. Beautifully views and very nice of you can sit in one of the "birdsnests" overlooking the restaurant and sea. Pre-booking these seats is recommended. Thanks to @bkkmfj2648 and his "local friend" for taking me there. Depending on what you choose, food can be a bit pricey. But you also pay for "the experience".

The restaurant is located in Phra Tamnak and there are a few popular restaurants with also great views next to each other. Below picture of Forest restaurant.

If you're staying in pattaya I do recommend using the Hornet app besides Grindr. Spent a few bucks on 1 month paid membership and much more twinks show up on Hornet than in Grindr. Worth it.

Thanks for those tips, @emiel1981 and @bkkmfj2648. I‘m taking notes!

[vinapu]

15 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

 I made sure and gave him reasonable rate of 2000baht but probably new boy needs to learn he has to come up with a minimum tip amount himself during chatting. Before he falls in the hands of a cheap bastard who will maybe only give him 1000baht after his services... 

 

floridarob already commented on it. Nothing wrong in being on generous side, I'm of the same religion but 1000 baht for 1 hr massage session is acceptable not only in Pattaya but also in most shops and by most boys in Saphan Kwai area of Bangkok.

In May I had Grindr guy Long Time  and all he wanted was 1500 , he even asked "is 1500 too much for you ? "

Example of cheap,  although not necessarily bastard , is Olddaddy who confessed above to offering 700.

[vinapu]

15 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

He is changing his profile pics more often than @vinapu is switching boys when visiting Thailand... 😜🤣

 

but at least I stay in the same underwear throughout

[vinapu]

12 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 So many of our forum members who come to visit Pattaya tend to only stay in the gay ghetto areas and do not venture out to see the BEST of Pattaya, like:

• These many cliff restaurants (Sky Gallery, Chocolate Factory, The Forest, 3 Mermaids, Oxygen) that sit directly above Cosy Beach in Prathamnak hill with stunning sunset views of the sunset behind nearby Koh Larn island,
  
•  
• Koh Larn island,
•  
• Na Jomtien - with the wonderful restaurants (Bacco Beach, Cave Beach Club) that literally sit on the beach sand.  More info here  https://guides.traveldailymedia.com/najomtien 
  
• Big Buddha hill which includes the Phra Tamnak Mountain Viewpoint with a stunning view of Pattaya harbor from above https://www.tourismthailand.org/Attraction/phra-tamnak-mountain-viewpoint
•  

great suggestions, specially Big Buddha Hill and Koh Larn but many  can't care less about food while in Pattaya while more meaty type of spending time is available in Pattaya

[emiel1981]

TRIP REPORT: LAST DAY IN PATTAYA

While all bars in Jomtien Supertown Complex had every night just a few customers sitting on the terraces, it was different on Wednesday night in @home bar. Every week there's a free bingo from 8pm till 10pm. The terrace and inside area of the bar were full of farangs, some with their boys. I had no luck. Last round I only needed one more number to get full card bingo and wining a bottle of alcohol or jackpot money. But somebody was having bingo just before me.

In earlier trip report I mentioned I had a massage moneyboy from USA. Some of you commented on Russians and other nationalities available for paid sex (oh sorry, massage off course I mean). 

On grindr I did find the well known (top) guys from Madagascar. But there was also a guy Morocco (long curly hair) and a western looking guy that I don't know nationality of on the app promoting their services. See pics below.

Another western guy from France caught my eye. First he asked 4k. But without too much effort his price dropped to a more reasonable 2500baht. Invited him to my room for a very satisfying massage (sensual, medium pressure) where he was a good bottom for me. He stays one more month in Pattaya, for who is looking on Grindr for him. One of his pics is below.

I'm writing this trip report while I'm at Suvarnabhumi Airport for my flight to China. The friendly driver of The Limo Pattaya was on time this morning at my hotel and dropped me at the airport about 90 minutes later, after a smooth drive in a confortable car.

After round trip in China, Hong Kong and Vietnam I will be back in Bangkok 4 more nights before heading home. Probably will write something about these Bangkok nights also next month. 

[bkkmfj2648]

12 minutes ago, emiel1981 said:

The terrace and inside area of the bar were full of farangs, some with their boys. I had no luck.

Hahaha because you were stuck with me and I am definitely not a boy.

Sorry that you did not win anything.  Even my luck changed as my prior 2 Bingo attendances awarded me bottles of whiskey that I gladly donated to my "beautiful racoon eyes" honey 😍

[emiel1981]

On 10/22/2024 at 5:53 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

What is amazing is that his price is very reasonable for 2.000 baht because normally in Pattaya the foreigners usually start with prices that are minimum of 3.000 baht and up to 5.000 baht.  The "straight" Russians that I play with require 3.000 and some of the hot BIG dick African's that pass through cost around 4.000 baht - but they are usually all pure muscle with humungous cut cocks.

I think it is normal the western and African guys ask a bit more than Asian guys. Just because scarcity leads to higher prices. 

15 hours ago, floridarob said:

Keep in mind you're in Pattaya not BKK....setting a new guys expectations too high isn't healthy either, no?

I think for Pattaya 1500 or 2000 for massage session and some fun (st) is acceptabel. I like to be generous and offer 2000 if the boy is goodlooking (for me than means hunk instead of twink) and services are provided as wished for. 

15 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

1000b?

I just offer 700 😁🫢some take it ...some don't 

 

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

floridarob already commented on it. Nothing wrong in being on generous side, I'm of the same religion but 1000 baht for 1 hr massage session is acceptable not only in Pattaya but also in most shops and by most boys in Saphan Kwai area of Bangkok.

In May I had Grindr guy Long Time  and all he wanted was 1500 , he even asked "is 1500 too much for you ? "

Example of cheap,  although not necessarily bastard , is Olddaddy who confessed above to offering 700.

Funny to see boy prices almost always lead to (small) discussions. I think for everybody the idea of what are acceptable fees are different. Same that if a boy is "good" in the opinion of one customer, somebody else can maybe not like, because the massage is too soft or too hard for their personal liking. 

I might offend some with this, but:

Years ago when I first came to Thailand (2012) it was said 1500 baht was generally spoken the normal fee for boys in Pattaya and in Bangkok that was 2000. Isn't it normal that these prices go up a bit during the years? In general prices went up, also for local life (rent, food) in Thailand. How can you expect still to pay the same as more than 10yrs ago? 

Also: offering a boy 700baht and him accepting this, is that just making a good deal or is it maybe using the boy because he is desperate for some money? 

Food for thought. (and maybe angry replies) 🤣