The whole month in Colombia

[Latbear4blk]

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

Or he likes open window sex and wants a bigger audience than you had??

Floridarob, you will forget any incidents involving other members having outdoors sex and being reported by the neighbors. You will celebrate Latbear4blk consistent discrete behavior. Bitch.

[macdaddi]

A few thoughts about Bogotá,

Per your research, there is both an economic and psychographic split between North and South. In fact, residents of Northern Bogotá will refer to themselves as "rolo-rola" while the South refers to themselves as "cachaco-cachaca". They both mean resident of Bogotá. You can do a small Rorschach test by asking locals where they are from as the answer for locals is generally telling.

I do think you are really overthinking location since the cruising hot spots change throughout the year.  Most guys that want to have sex with other men will generally head down to Chapigay for entertainment. You will see that every block in Chapigay has businesses that cater to gay men, although it sounds like things are in a decline currently.

As this is your first trip, either stay in Chapinero or within a 20 minute walk of that area. That gives you Chapigay,  Chapinero Alto, or potentially Palermo to the south.  Chapinero includes the financial district (along Carrera 7) so much of that zona is dead on weekends.

If you want to venture out to a less "touristy" neighbourhood, then look at rentals in El Chicó around Parque Virrey which is a very desirable address popular with young professionals and families. Lots of local shops, gyms (Rolos take great pride at staying in shape), cafes, and restaurants and you are a 10 minute cab ride from Chapigay. One plus here is because of the demographics, you will meet plenty of people who speak English and will be happy to chat.  If you move just 3 blocks to the north, you will also find options around Parque de la 93 which is a popular zona for the technology companies in the city, which means plenty of young professionals live and work in this neighbourhood.  This still puts you  within a 15 minute taxi ride from Chapigay.

Cheers!

 

[macdaddi]

16 hours ago, Birmingham boy said:

Cedritos is the most highly populated "wealthy" area in the north..

It is. And it is also highly regulated with police and surveillance.  In your planning process,  consider that getting around Bogotá is going to be a challenge as the city runs North South (mostly) and there is no metro-subway system. So everyone gets around on cars-motorbikes-buses while fighting for access to the limited two-lane streets. Traffic is a known challenge in Bogotá.

Just want to be certain that you are not limiting your options because staying north of Usaquén is going to require a 40 minute taxi ride to get down to Chapigay, and close to 1 hour to travel to the historic Centro in the south in good traffic. The Cedritos area of the city has limited its access to 2 main streets running north-south because of the very deliberate placement of the country club and golf course. It is not easy to access this part of the city for reason.  So please consider that in your decision making.

[Riobard]

And well Baño Turco Saint Moritz in Chapinero doubles as a non-pay bathhouse although the regular non-trade hook-up cabins leave a lot to be desired. But if you’re at ease with sleaze …

[Birmingham boy]

1 hour ago, macdaddi said:

The Cedritos area of the city has limited its access to 2 main streets running north-south because of the very deliberate placement of the country club and golf course. It is not easy to access this part of the city for reason.  So please consider that in your decision making.

That's all really insightful, many thanks. I think I might be fine there just for 1 week to have a break and you know.. work for a change;) But that's smth to consider, I'd be only relying on locals in close proximity to me. Second week is deffo around Chapinero for all the action! 

[Latbear4blk]

10 hours ago, macdaddi said:

A few thoughts about Bogotá,

Per your research, there is both an economic and psychographic split between North and South. In fact, residents of Northern Bogotá will refer to themselves as "rolo-rola" while the South refers to themselves as "cachaco-cachaca". They both mean resident of Bogotá. You can do a small Rorschach test by asking locals where they are from as the answer for locals is generally telling.

I do think you are really overthinking location since the cruising hot spots change throughout the year.  Most guys that want to have sex with other men will generally head down to Chapigay for entertainment. You will see that every block in Chapigay has businesses that cater to gay men, although it sounds like things are in a decline currently.

As this is your first trip, either stay in Chapinero or within a 20 minute walk of that area. That gives you Chapigay,  Chapinero Alto, or potentially Palermo to the south.  Chapinero includes the financial district (along Carrera 7) so much of that zona is dead on weekends.

If you want to venture out to a less "touristy" neighbourhood, then look at rentals in El Chicó around Parque Virrey which is a very desirable address popular with young professionals and families. Lots of local shops, gyms (Rolos take great pride at staying in shape), cafes, and restaurants and you are a 10 minute cab ride from Chapigay. One plus here is because of the demographics, you will meet plenty of people who speak English and will be happy to chat.  If you move just 3 blocks to the north, you will also find options around Parque de la 93 which is a popular zona for the technology companies in the city, which means plenty of young professionals live and work in this neighbourhood.  This still puts you  within a 15 minute taxi ride from Chapigay.

Cheers!

 

You never recommend Laureles, an area I like a lot. Close to Chapigay and everything, safe, walkable, a nice blend of local flavor and gentrification, and a quite good PPM.

What do you have against Laureles?

[Riobard]

There there, dear. You’ll find the way.

[Latbear4blk]

1 hour ago, Latbear4blk said:

You never recommend Laureles, an area I like a lot. Close to Chapigay and everything, safe, walkable, a nice blend of local flavor and gentrification, and a quite good PPM.

What do you have against Laureles?

Mi Dios. I cannot edit. I mixed Bogotá with Medal. This weed is good.

[Birmingham boy]

15 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

mixed Bogotá with Medal

I actually found Laureles in Bogota and was surprised by your choice but decided you were just much braver than me 🤡

[Riobard]

Actually, Bogotá’s small Laureles district is but a few kilometres west from Venecia, a vibrant commercial and residential area into its own, where Spa Sexto Sentido is located. I believe I wrote about it. 

[macdaddi]

11 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

Mi Dios. I cannot edit. I mixed Bogotá with Medal. This weed is good.

Eso es todo :)

[macdaddi]

12 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

What do you have against Laureles?

Nothing, although I prefer the quiet of Belén in Medallo.   But clearly I am not very cool, since Time Out designated Laureles the coolest neighbourhood in the world last year, a fact that the locals will proudly repeat.  https://www.timeout.com/news/its-official-this-is-the-worlds-coolest-neighbourhood-right-now-101723

I will add @Birmingham boy you may want to check out  Medellín Guru blog for insider tips. It's a collective of resources for ex-pats who have relocated/are considering Medellín. They are good about keeping the information up-to-date.

[Birmingham boy]

Had a bit of a reality check and regret going to Medellin😂😂😂

Chatted with a few guys from skokka and Cali guys and even Bogota boys were okay to negotiate to 50COP-100COP max, while average looking Medellin guys are demanding 150-200 COP as the lowest and even 100 USD! (one sincerely ugly guy with a big dick claimed he is a local star and that's what he is paid). Oh boy. I'm going to find lots of touristy stuff to do in Medellin as I'm clearly not getting any sex there 😂

[donJ]

On 7/30/2024 at 3:51 AM, Birmingham boy said:

No that's a fair point. I'm an average looking guy, but have no issues finding sex on Grindr here in the UK. But I wouldn't call myself skilled in getting guys into bed at all. I'm a shy average looking gringo with very basic Spanish. 

Unfortunately, my trip is already booked so I'd appreciate advice on Cali/Medellin/Bogota, especially if anyone can recommend a good Airbnb or area to stay in slightly outside touristy stuff. 

Of the 3 cities ive only been to Bogota & I know a lot of people from there so ill speak to that, but a lot of it probably applies to the others as well.

1. Chapinero is definitely in the heart of Bogota, like staying in Manhattan in NYC, it definitely has quieter residential streets, posh & hilly, east of Carrera 7, & the farther north you go the closer it is to other posh or more upper middle class barrios of Bogota. My impression was much more like NY too in that because its such a big city, theres so much mix of people & barrios, a lot less like Cartagena, or my city Boston, which sort by their smaller size have starker contrasts between touristy/central neighborhoods & the areas where normal everyday people actually live. But point is, in Chapinero if you open Grinder you're going to get flooded with sc0rts, this is also the heart of the homo community. If you wanted to be in less touristy neighborhoods youd have to stay in a place like Bosa, Kennedy, Ciudad Bolivar, etc.

2. Bogota is an enormous, cosmopolitan city, of course with a lot of issues with crime, gritty, but also full of different neighborhoods & people going about their business. You can do the same things you do in other big cities...go for a drink, to the club, see a movie, theres a ton of hiking ringining Bogota, its a big biking city, go to the gym, go to cafes and out for dinner, basically all the normal things youd like to do & traveling depends on time of day & the neighborhood. Pay attention & dont be a fool, but yes i was walking around at 2 am on the weekend nights in Chapinero, tons of people out, let your surroundings guide you. I always carried a separate phone for out in public, in anything it would make life easier even if you simply lost it.

3. Its your life but id always meet in public first lol

4. Havent used tinder since 2013 lol

 

[donJ]

On 7/30/2024 at 5:36 AM, Birmingham boy said:

Is it just me or the fact that someone desires you for who you are is more appealing than someone who wants you for money. I don't mind paying (if it's cheap of course), but the idea that someone has to fuck me just for the sake of meeting their ends is just putting me off. 

I tried to negotiate with some Colombians and they were willing to discount up to 50% when they saw my pics, maybe that's the way around it to find someone paid and just make it cheap knowing they would charge more if they were not attracted 😂

Sorry for jumping on your convo:) 

lol More appealing in an emotional way for sure but in a sexual way it depends, for some people its easier, i use these forums mostly for other reasons and am not big in to pay/being paid but its very popular in Colombia & sometimes it might be the way you go. But for whats it worth not everyone is doing it to make ends meet...just like we all have jobs, not every shift you work is to get your next meal...this is peoples living because they can make good money

[speedoo1]

15 hours ago, Birmingham boy said:

Had a bit of a reality check and regret going to Medellin😂😂😂

Chatted with a few guys from skokka and Cali guys and even Bogota boys were okay to negotiate to 50COP-100COP max, while average looking Medellin guys are demanding 150-200 COP as the lowest and even 100 USD!

I have stated this in several posts in other threads. You get much more for your money outside Medellin. 

[neyger]

Regarding prices: 

The guy who quoted you 100USD maybe asked for 100$ ? The dollar sign is sometimes used for pesos as well, in that case 100$ = 100 COP = 100 mil = 100.000 pesos.  This 'misunderstanding' only happened to me once though. 

Their asking price normally does not include transport costs. Always tell them to take a motorbike taxi, it's faster and cheaper. 

From my experience, paid sex for pollos (18-24y/o),  boy-next-door, not overweight or ugly:

Cheapest cities (40mil - 70mil): Cucuta, Ibague, Baranquilla, Villavicencio*
Cheap cities (50mil - 100mil): Pereira, Armenia*, Manizales, Bucaramanga
Average priced cities (100mil - 150mil): Bogota**, Medellin, Santa Marta*
Expensive cities (150mil+): Cartagena*, San Andres*

For webcam models / very fit & handsome guys, add +- 50% (although what webcam models ask can vary a lot). 

* I only met or contacted one or two guys there
** Only a couple guys that I liked in Bogota asked for less than 100 mil, but they were far away (Soacha, Bosa, ..)

- I've been told multiple times that Colombians pay maximum 50 mil for sex ..
- If I have to pay less than 100 mil and I had a great time, I give them 100 mil anyway.

I still haven't visited Cali.. it's high on my 'places to visit' list  

[Birmingham boy]

1 hour ago, neyger said:

00$ ? The dollar sign is sometimes used for pesos as well, in that case 100$ = 100 COP = 100 mil = 100.000 peso

No, I've checked as I thought he meant 100COP but he got really offended 😅

Can I order a motor taxi for them just like Uber? Do you know the apps for that?

[Latbear4blk]

I was in Medellín one year ago. Back then, I was paying $COP 100 K/130K for Mileroticos escorts. Although the fee is supposed top be hourly, they always overstayed for many hours sometimes. I paid U$S 100 once, to a Chaturbate model. We spent 5 hours together for that price. 

I am confident these prices are still current in Medayork. 

[speedoo1]

To get a Medellin prof guy to stay/have sex w/ you for more than 1 hour for 100/130 mil COP only, is not the norm and should be considered very cheap. 100 mil would normally not even get you medio hora with a mileroticos/ prof rent guy in Medellin. 

[speedoo1]

57 minutes ago, Birmingham boy said:

Can I order a motor taxi for them just like Uber? Do you know the apps for that?

This is not the way it works. Some guys (not all) will quote you a lump sum to cover transport and if you find it too high, you challenge it. You can check fare w/ inDrive which is the recommended (ride share) app for transport in most Colombian cities; Uber is more expensive. You shouldn’t order transportation for the guy; you can do it for the return from your place to his casa if you really want to do it. 

[speedoo1]

2 hours ago, neyger said:

i still haven't visited Cali.. it's high on my 'places to visit' list  

Based on my 3 visits to Cali, prices for rent guys are on par with Pereira, Manizales etc or slightly cheaper. Guys off Grindr are slightly cheaper than Mileroticos guys; 50-70 mil for the first, 70-100 mil for the latter (July 2024). However, guys from Grindr involve a higher risk that the guy who turns up at your doorstep is older, look different than his pics or do not have the large verga advertised in his profile etc; been there done that. 

[Birmingham boy]

3 minutes ago, speedoo1 said:

different or do not have the large verga than advertised in his profile; been there done that. 

Ugh that's not good, looking forward to hearing more details! 

[Latbear4blk]

3 hours ago, speedoo1 said:

To get a Medellin prof guy to stay/have sex w/ you for more than 1 hour for 100/130 mil COP only, is not the norm and should be considered very cheap. 100 mil would normally not even get you medio hora with a mileroticos/ prof rent guy in Medellin. 

Whether or not it is the norm, that was my experience in two visits so far. And they seemed to be very happy, and wanted to come back for more. 

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, Latbear4blk said:

Whether or not it is the norm, that was my experience in two visits so far. And they seemed to be very happy, and wanted to come back for more. 

I've always made it clear that I don't like sex express, so I tell them I'll pay their 100-150k for a session, like short time in Thailand. To drink, get something to eat, converse then fuck....

Most have agreed and if they were difficult, I figure if they're bitchy at this point, it won't be fun once they're here so pass.

I've had some message me later agreeing to my offer, but it's too late, I've moved on with no regrets, lol