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Rebel Group Claims Capture of Major Military HQ in Shan State

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@reader thanks for sharing this interesting Myanmar article with all of us.

For those of you who will be or are already in Pattaya, this Wednesday, 31 July 2024, the PCEC Pattaya City Expats Club will give a presentation led by Kevin Kirk, where the topic title is:  "The Myanmar Mess and Beyond".

The start time is at 10:30am at the Holiday Inn Executive Tower 4th floor conference room.

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Posted
23 hours ago, reader said:

In a Chinese-language statement published on its Facebook page yesterday, the Myanmar National Democratic Alliance Army (MNDAA) said that it had completely captured the military’s Northeastern Regional Command headquarters at 4 a.m. that morning, after 23 days of fighting. “The liberation of Lashio will mark a historic victory in our revolution,” the group declared.

The MNDAA also claimed to have established effective control over the city of Lashio, which lies 110 kilometers south of the Chinese border.

Again? They declared that 3 times already: at past summer, autumn, and spring.

The group was formed on 12 March 1989, after the local head of the local Communist Party of Burma, Pheung Kya-shin (also spelt Peng Jia Sheng or Phone Kyar Shin), dissatisfied with the communist government, broke away and formed the MNDAA. MNDAA has held multiple public executions. The European Union condemned the executions "in the strongest term", calling them "an inhuman and degrading punishment that represents an ultimate denial of human dignity". - WIKI

These are fighting for control over opium region Kokang.

Situation as of May 2024.

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The most predictable future of this conflict on the territory of the North of Shan state: all these parts of  "brotherhood of the Ring" will forget "liberation" and will start to fight each over for to control over opium fields and jade and ruby mines in region if they will have success in pushing Myanmar national army out of region.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Moses said:

The most predictable future of this conflict on the territory of the North of Shan state: all these parts of  "brotherhood of the Ring" will forget "liberation" and will start to fight each over for to control over opium fields and jade and ruby mines in region if they will have success in pushing Myanmar national army out of region.

I think it's way too soon to judge their motives when the forces who oppose them are supporting the most treacherous and corrupt junta in Asia. I prefer to judge the Myanmar Nation Army by its declared allies: China and Russia.

Posted
1 hour ago, reader said:

I think it's way too soon to judge their motives when the forces who oppose them are supporting the most treacherous and corrupt junta in Asia.

It is just western propaganda. Myanmar (Burma) got independence in 1948. And all these nationalistic elites from Burmese states started to fight for control of local resources just few months after. In each Burmese state exists at least two, but mostly 3 or 4 different "Liberation Armies" which over 80 years already fighting each other. 

And all these "liberation forces" existed 70 years before "the most treacherous and corrupt junta in Asia" appeared on the political scene of Myanmar... Each "army" has own sponsors - some sponsors are Chinese origin, some are CIA origin, some have links to Thailand and Vietnam. And each sponsor dreams to control ruby, jade, and even opium. 

It is just war for resources in Golden triangle for interests of different elites under cover of "liberation", "democratization" and other "-tions"...

In Thailand army successfully controls situation and keeps civil order. In Burma state army isn't that successful. That's all.

To support these "liberation" gangs is the same as to support radicals from Southern Thai provinces.

Posted
2 hours ago, Moses said:

In Burma state army isn't that successful. That's all.

I believe there's a bit more to the story than that.

2 hours ago, Moses said:

It is just western propaganda.

Certainly no propaganda for the junta and its supporters in Russia and China. 😄

Posted
2 hours ago, reader said:

Certainly no propaganda for the junta and its supporters in Russia and China.

Well, then you very easy may find who are sponsors of "liberation" gangs, because gangs can't fight without weapon, and they have weapon. Now you know source.

Posted

This is what makes the Myanmar conflict so difficult to comprehend for outsiders. The multitude of local armies with differing interests and ideologies makes it difficult to make a simple elevator pitch explaining it all. It is not simply a democratic struggle. This is what many western observers simplify the conflict to be, and while certainly a few armies fight for this, the majority of the conflict is about resources and race. We have reports about the majority Bamar people who comprise 70% of the population, being refused entry to some ethnic controlled areas in the north.

The junta is trying to balance out the influence of China, and it did that by relying on the West. Now that option is not on the table so they must rely on Russia, but Russia has not got strong interests in the area and is engaged elsewhere. The support is not substantial.

Posted

There is one thing crystal clear about this VERY complicated situation: 

The junta AND the bamar majority AND most of the other ethnicities support/ed the genocidal ethnic cleansing of the Rohingan. 

The whole country should b boycotted.

Posted
3 hours ago, 12is12 said:

The junta AND the bamar majority AND most of the other ethnicities support/ed the genocidal ethnic cleansing of the Rohingan [sic].

You would have gotten closer had you used your typical shorthand writing: Rohga. 😐

Posted
11 hours ago, 12is12 said:

The junta AND the bamar majority AND most of the other ethnicities support/ed the genocidal ethnic cleansing of the Rohingan.

You forgot to add that the Rohingya (Bengali) is an ethnic group whose leaders support separatist sentiments, which has 2 of its own armies, and within which several relatively large Islamic terrorist groups operate.

The situation with the Rohingya is distorted by Western media.

Let me remind you that Nobel Peace Laureate and leader of Myanmar opposition Aung San Suu Kyi was on the side of the junta on the Rohingya issue, recognizing that numerous terrorist groups and guerrilla actions by the Rohingya armies posed a threat to Myanmar's sovereignty.

Moreover, it was during the Rohingya crisis that she was the state counsellor.

Posted
13 hours ago, 12is12 said:

The whole country should b boycotted.

You don’t solve a problem with rats by burning the entire house… 

Posted
1 hour ago, Moses said:

You forgot to add that the Rohingya (Bengali) is an ethnic group whose leaders support separatist sentiments, which has 2 of its own armies, and within which several relatively large Islamic terrorist groups operate.

The situation with the Rohingya is distorted by Western media.

Let me remind you that Nobel Peace Laureate and leader of Myanmar opposition Aung San Suu Kyi was on the side of the junta on the Rohingya issue, recognizing that numerous terrorist groups and guerrilla actions by the Rohingya armies posed a threat to Myanmar's sovereignty.

Moreover, it was during the Rohingya crisis that she was the state counsellor.

This is why so few countries have supported a call to actually designate the Rohingya issue as a genocide in the legal sense. 

Posted

No, thats not the reason.

I'm a PhD in International Relations.

Coumtries dont designate "genocide", bcs it obliges them to act. Better to deny ignore fumble-mumble procrastinate.

Posted
3 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Coumtries dont designate "genocide", bcs it obliges them to act. Better to deny ignore fumble-mumble procrastinate.

If you say so

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