Hector Posted July 25 Posted July 25 I am a mature cis Canadian gay guy who recently moved to Bangkok. I am curious about the gay scene, but a bit shy to venture out alone in Silom reading so many comments about mamasans and MBs who pressure you to drink and spend. I drink alcohol but I am not a big drinker. I am seeking friends over 50 like me to experience the Silom scene, and maybe chill out once in a while (I am not seeking a s*x partner as I like younger guys). I did put a similar post in Facebook and received a lot of nasty comments for being gay, so not trying that again. But I found this forum and hope to have better luck here. I live in central Bangkok. vaughn, vinapu and 10tazione 3 Quote
floridarob Posted July 25 Posted July 25 11 hours ago, Hector said: I am a mature cis Canadian gay guy who recently moved to Bangkok. For work, to hide or retire? Quote
vinapu Posted July 26 Posted July 26 14 hours ago, Hector said: I am a mature cis Canadian gay guy who recently moved to Bangkok. I am curious about the gay scene, but a bit shy to venture out alone in Silom reading so many comments about mamasans and MBs who pressure you to drink and spend. I drink alcohol but I am not a big drinker. I am seeking friends over 50 like me to experience the Silom scene, and maybe chill out once in a while (I am not seeking a s*x partner as I like younger guys). I did put a similar post in Facebook and received a lot of nasty comments for being gay, so not trying that again. But I found this forum and hope to have better luck here. I live in central Bangkok. Welcome to the forum. No need to be shy and no need to get drunk. Mamasans will pressure you, mainly to off a boy or buy next drink indeed but it's not like strangulation and can be easily shaken off. Drink your drink slowly and it doesn't need to be alcohol, they have water , soft drinks some bars even hot tea or coffee. All drinks in bar cost the same 400-500 depending of venue. Best way to prevent from overspending is to take only that much money. I'm sure somebody will find you there to be your guide even if it's relatively low season there. Mamasans at Jupiter , Moonlight, Dreamboys and Hot Male are relatively tame so you mat start with one of those bars. But first step should be Hot Male beer bar on street level on Patpong 2. No mamasans, drinks are cheap and no pressure to off the boy as they are mostly for drinking company. Don't confuse with Hot Male go-go bar which is on 2nd floor right above. 10tazione 1 Quote
vaughn Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I get the feeling about being hesitant with the pressure, I'm also not a big drinker most of the time and I'm fairly introverted so I dislike having someone hovering trying to get me to make decisions. The first time I went a few years ago I was alone and very nervous, but after that first time it's easy. Sometimes I think we give the impression it's going to be relentless and confrontational, but it really isn't 99% of the time. It's just them trying to keep you there buying (any) drinks and hopefully getting you to take someone off. The mamasans don't care what you drink as long as you're not sitting on empty forever, most of the time I'm just drinking soda and lime (Schweppes Manao Soda). If the mamasan is asking you to pick a guy from stage and you either don't want to or haven't made a decision, just say "I will watch and chose later". Most of the time they get the hint and leave you alone for a bit while you decide to pick someone or pay your bill. The MBs are usually the least pressure in the bars i've found, it's after the ST or LT they'll send messages and try to get you back. You can avoid it by just not giving them your Line or Social Media. I still get a bit uncomfortable if the gogo is empty and I have a stage full of hopeful eyes looking at me, so maybe do a lap of the bars and look for one that isn't empty for the first time. If you go just before the show or during the show times it's more likely to have a crowd to sit and observe for a while. I'm under 50 and not there atm to intro, but i wish you well. 10tazione, vinapu and reader 3 Quote
Hector Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 Thanks. That’s very helpful. What does “after ST or LT mean” ? Are you in Bangkok ? Quote
vaughn Posted July 26 Posted July 26 ST = Short Time - the guy goes back to your room and you do the deed then he leaves. LT = Long time - usually overnight and sometimes the morning LLT = Long long time - multi-day/night arrangements, i would say do this only when you know him and you have good chemistry. When in the bar and you have picked the guy you like and you're having your drink with him, ask if him 'you want to go short/long time with me', then he will usually respond with yes and price paid to him directly in the room after the time. The bar also charges a fee 'off fee' to take him from the bar and it will be added to your bill in the bar. I'm not in BKK atm, I can only travel to and from when work permits unfortunately. Vessey and vinapu 2 Quote
Hector Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 6 hours ago, vinapu said: Welcome to the forum. No need to be shy and no need to get drunk. Mamasans will pressure you, mainly to off a boy or buy next drink indeed but it's not like strangulation and can be easily shaken off. Drink your drink slowly and it doesn't need to be alcohol, they have water , soft drinks some bars even hot tea or coffee. All drinks in bar cost the same 400-500 depending of venue. Best way to prevent from overspending is to take only that much money. I'm sure somebody will find you there to be your guide even if it's relatively low season there. Mamasans at Jupiter , Moonlight, Dreamboys and Hot Male are relatively tame so you mat start with one of those bars. But first step should be Hot Male beer bar on street level on Patpong 2. No mamasans, drinks are cheap and no pressure to off the boy as they are mostly for drinking company. Don't confuse with Hot Male go-go bar which is on 2nd floor right above. Quote
Hector Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 Thanks. What goes on on the second floor ? How much on average does a bar charge for offing a boy ? Quote
vinapu Posted July 26 Posted July 26 7 hours ago, Hector said: Thanks. What goes on on the second floor ? How much on average does a bar charge for offing a boy ? at Hot Male on 2nd floor that have go-go bar. Like in every go-go bar in Thailand this is where you will see boys presenting themselves on the stage , usually bare chested , sometimes in jeans , sometimes in just briefs with number pinned somewhere. That indicates he is available to be taken out . Around 10.30 they will have a show with finale most likely being big cock show after which boys will circulate audience for tip in exchange for a feel of their rigid thingy. T you not obligated to tip but in such case don't touch guy either as it will be bad form, just look is for free. I usually tip 50 or 100 , some others just 20 drink is likely 500 and it's in reality admission ticket to a bar with 1 drink included. As you enter you will be seated and asked what do you want to drink. With your order invoice will be brought and placed in bin in front of you , you will pay when you will be leaving but feel free to pay right away if you wish so -I usually do. You can invite boy to seat with you, then either ask mamasan (waiter) to call him over or , like I do , motion him yourself. You should offer him a drink which , depending on bar will be the same , slightly cheaper or slightly dearer than your drink, we are talking 50-100 baht deviation either way, in Hot Male if I recall it's the same. If you subsequently decide to off (take with you ) that guy , you will get another invoice in your bin. In such a case no need to tip guy you are taking. If you decide to send hi back after a while you should tip him 100-300 may be even more depending on length of time you were holding him and how things went under the table. A we all know , hand holding and cock holding are not exactly the same. Try to be discreet though , just follow boy's lead. Keep in mind if you not planning to take boy with you by holding him you are depriving him chance of getting business so either compensate for that with higher tip or sent him back with his tip after he is done with his drink. Off fee for taking boy is almost universal 500, only exception I know in Bangkok is offing models from Moonlight which is 1000, floor boys there, often as attractive as models are still at 500 Waiter at Hot Male beer bar on ground floor can be taken home too for the same 500 but sometimes you may need to wait till end of their shift. More questions-ask reader, tm_nyc and vaughn 3 Quote
Lucasgi Posted July 27 Posted July 27 I will be going to Bangkok in early January. don't mind meet up to show you around the gay scene. Quote
Hector Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 My Line ID is “Gilles300”. Let me know when you are in Bangkok. Happy to meet. Quote
Keithambrose Posted July 27 Posted July 27 3 hours ago, Hector said: My Line ID is “Gilles300”. Let me know when you are in Bangkok. Happy to meet. Me also, early January. Quote
