reader Posted July 21 Posted July 21 WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden dropped out of the 2024 race for the White House on Sunday, ending his bid for reelection following a disastrous debate with Donald Trump that raised doubts about his fitness for office just four months before the election. The decision comes after escalating pressure from Biden’s Democratic allies to step aside following the June 27 debate, in which the 81-year-old president trailed off, often gave nonsensical answers and failed to call out the former president’s many falsehoods. Biden plans to serve out the remainder of his term in office, which ends at noon on Jan. 20, 2025. Quote
Olddaddy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Whoever gets in I hope they continue to let all those poor refugees cross the border . I hope they increase it actually,those poor people from Mexico and South America. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 57 minutes ago, Olddaddy said: Whoever gets in I hope they continue to let all those poor refugees cross the border . I hope they increase it actually,those poor people from Mexico and South America. I'll take that as a serious comment and post this excellent piece by a moderate about working class voters and immigration. A Masterclass on Not Treating the Working Class as Second Class The whole essay is excellent. I'll add a few facts that surprised me. Lower-income working class voters (meaning without college degrees, as is the norm to define "working class" now) split almost evenly between Trump and Biden in 2020. So the idea that non-college working class voters are now overwhelming Republican is NOT true. The working class voters (meaning ones with no college degree) who are most for Trump are three things: White, and evangelicals, and relatively affluent. And it is the extreme culture war stuff that plays particularly well among White working class evangelicals. As that essay argues, most working class people - especially those who are not evangelicals - do NOT like the extreme culture war stuff. But they also don't like "open borders" immigration policies they associate with Biden and Harris. Quote So, bringing this back to the Ungar-Sargon working-class middle formulation, if a third-party candidate emerges who is strong on health care; tolerant on social issues; in favor of higher taxes on corporations and billionaires; talks tough on people cheating government welfare programs; supports union efforts and minimum wage laws in support of working class wages; and is demonstrably tougher on immigration than the current White House occupant, there is clearly a significant opportunity to drain votes from Biden. That was written two months ago. In theory, that was a path for RFK, Jr. But his campaign has basically dried up, and Biden has dropped out. I think a way to think about that now is it is great political advice for Kamala Harris. This is probably the best argument for bringing Mark Kelly into this race. He is a moderate. He went after Biden on immigration. He is seen as one of those people who genuinely wants to reach out to Republicans and find middle ground. The perfect symbol of that is an immigration bill crafted by Kyrsten Sinema and one of the most respected and conservative Republicans around. That bill failed, thanks to Trump being more interested in political attacks and his own power than in actual compromise. Regardless, Biden took executive actions that have slowed down border crossings. A Harris/Kelly ticket is a new chance to talk about immigration and sensible middle ground reforms that support the working class that lives in America already and that both sides can agree to. Guess how much border crossing numbers plummeted after Biden put in a new policy Quote The number of migrants illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border has plummeted 40 percent since President Joe Biden clamped down on asylum earlier this month, administration officials said Wednesday. Trump is in it for himself, and his own power. He does not want compromise. He does not want change, other than to put his own lying ass back in power. Trump has no record to run on. He killed manufacturing jobs in America. The lying raping sack of shit is one of the few US Presidents who left office after a record of division and lies with fewer factory workers than when he started. What a lying sack of shit. All Trump does is lie to the voters who want him to step aside. Biden brought back almost 1 million manufacturing jobs. The factories that will build all these chips under Biden's bipartisan CHIPS law are being built in Arizona, like crazy. So Mark Kelly is the guy who can talk about working class factory jobs in Arizona, and a bipartisan and moderate approach to immigration. Quote
EmmetK Posted July 21 Posted July 21 BRING HER ON!!!!! Trump will crush her in a debate. Vegas is already taking bets on how many times that Cackles will break out in uncontrolled laughter during the Trump/Cackles debate https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826639924748087 TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 6 minutes ago, EmmetK said: BRING HER ON!!!!! Trump will crush her in a debate. Vegas is already taking bets on how many times that Cackles will break out in uncontrolled laughter during the Trump/Cackles debate https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826639924748087 TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA When are you calling for your lying raping felon to get out of America's way? 57 % of Americans want Trump to step aside. 2 in 3 Americans are appalled at all the criminal acts that make Trump a crook. The porn star hush money conviction was only a start. Biden has listened to America. He has stepped aside. Trump is next. When will Trump stop lying to America, and start listening to America? And what do you personally have against Black women who exude joy, intelligence, truth, hope, and adherence to the law? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, EmmetK said: BRING HER ON!!!!! Trump will crush her in a debate. Vegas is already taking bets on how many times that Cackles will break out in uncontrolled laughter during the Trump/Cackles debate https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826639924748087 TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA Do you mean in between her telling the TRUTH ? She will fact check his fat ass on EVERY lie he will be telling. You better order your Xanax now, because you gonna be in a deep depression when they announce Black, FEMALE Cackles as the winner...... Trump and his team are shaking in their boots over having to face Harris, and rethinking their entire campaign....He better add Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan to his campaign team. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted July 21 Posted July 21 19 minutes ago, EmmetK said: BRING HER ON!!!!! Trump will crush her in a debate. Vegas is already taking bets on how many times that Cackles will break out in uncontrolled laughter during the Trump/Cackles debate https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826639924748087 TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA Tell Grandpa Trump to take his Geritol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, Suckrates said: Do you mean in between her telling the TRUTH ? She will fact check his fat ass on EVERY lie he will be telling. You better order your Xanax now, because you gonna be in a deep depression when they announce Black, FEMALE Cackles as the winner...... Trump and his team are shaking in their boots over having to face Harris, and rethinking their entire campaign....He better add Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan to his campaign team. Even for a lying losing low IQ felon like Trump, you would think they could do better than this. Trump Campaign: "Kamala Was In On It, She Covered Up Joe's Obvious Mental Decline" First off, where is Joe's dementia diagnosis? There is none. What we do know is that Trump was judged by a jury of his peers to be a crook. Several times. He is the kind of raping felon Kamala Harris has thrown behind bars many times. Joe Biden is a patriot who loves his nation and put love of country above his political ambition. He listened. 57 % of Americans want Donald Trump to step aside, too. Will Trump listen? Or is this always about his lies and his own ambition? (Dumb question, I know.) Kamala Harrfis has not covered up the fact that Joe Biden is old. America figured that out just fine on her own. Kamala Harris will not cover up the fact that Donald Trump is an old rapist lying felon. She will not cover up his rape. She will not cover up the fact that he is a crook. She will not cover up his lies. She will not cover up his desire to kill Obamacare. She will not cover up his billionaire tax cuts. She will not cover up his 30 % murder spike. She will not cover up that he killed factory jobs in America. She will not cover up that he killed a compromise immigration bill, after which Biden took unilateral action and border crossing went down 40 %. When will Republicans stop covering up for old gross lying rapist felon Donald Trump? When well they address the Trump rapes? When will they address the Trump attacks on democracy and free elections? When will they address the Trump crimes? When will they apologize for his mob beating cops viciously? When will they for once tell the fucking truth to Americans about the crook they nominated for President? Quote
EmmetK Posted July 21 Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: When are you calling for your lying raping felon to resign? 57 % of Americans want Trump to step aside. 2 in 3 Americans are appalled at all the criminal acts that make Trump a crook. The porn star hush money conviction was only a start. Biden has listened to America. He has stepped aside. Trump is next. When will Trump stop lying to America, and start listening to America? And what do you personally have against Black women who exude joy, intelligence, truth, and hope? Given the recent Supreme Court ruling on Presidential immunity, those phony charges will be thrown out. No reason for DJT to drop out when he is leading the race. As for your race-baiting, we all know that comes directly from the DNC/MSNBC playbook. When you got nothing else, play the race/sex card. And FWIW, I love REAL black women that exude joy, intelligence, truth, and hope. But Kamala is only half black. These are real black women who exude hope and joy whom I admire: TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA RockyRoadTravel and stevenkesslar 2 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Given the recent Supreme Court ruling on Presidential immunity, those phony charges will be thrown out. No reason for DJT to drop out when he is leading the race. In other words, you want to pump up racism and ignore 57 % of Americans who see Trump for the crook that he is and want him to drop out. I guess at least Trump is honest about wanting to be a dictator. Good luck with that, clown! Rick Wilson: Quote [Kamala Harris] is in her 50s, is fast, is agile, is mentally sharper than Donald Trump has ever been on his best day, who knows how to take men like Donald Trump and put them away. When she put them away before, they were rapists. And frauds. And con men. And scum bags. And criminals. Sound familiar, Donald? Because that's you, buddy! Quote
RockyRoadTravel Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: In other words, you want to pump up racism and ignore 57 % of Americans who see Trump for the crook that he is and want him to drop out. I guess at least Trump is honest about wanting to be a dictator. Good luck with that, clown! Rick Wilson: Have you ever seen the play Shirley Valentine? About a middle-aged English woman who sneaks off to Greece to find herself. Opening of the 1st Act she's talking to a wall in her kitchen saying "hello wall". The 2nd Act, in Greece, opens with her saying "hello rock". You're Shirley and Emmett's the brainless rock. Good for bouncing sound off of, and little else. He can't even acknowledge Trump is a rapist, he's as fragile as his Dear Leader. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
EmmetK Posted July 21 Posted July 21 6 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: In other words, you want to pump up racism and ignore 57 % of Americans who see Trump for the crook that he is and want him to drop out. I guess at least Trump is honest about wanting to be a dictator. Good luck with that, clown! You and the MSNBC audience may care what Rick Wilson has to say. 99% of America, including me, have ZERO interest. Cackling Kamala covered up Biden's mental decline, and Dementia Joe covered up Cackling Kamala's complete ineptitude and irresponsibility. Cackling Kamala has been lying and covering up Dementia Joe's senility for years. This new ad, which will be flooding the battleground states, is already out: "I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he does either"... The best line of any debate... But I can't wait to see just HOW BAD Cackles does... I already ordered my popcorn... Hey Cackles, go purchase a HUGE bucket cuz President Trump is gonna mop the floor with you... IF YOU MAKE IT.. TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA RockyRoadTravel and stevenkesslar 2 Quote
RockyRoadTravel Posted July 21 Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, EmmetK said: You and the MSNBC audience may care what Rick Wilson has to say. 99% of America, including me, have ZERO interest. Cackling Kamala covered up Biden's mental decline, and Dementia Joe covered up Cackling Kamala's complete ineptitude and irresponsibility. Cackling Kamala has been lying and covering up Dementia Joe's senility for years. This new ad, which will be flooding the battleground states, is already out: "I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he does either"... The best line of any debate... But I can't wait to see just HOW BAD Cackles does... I already ordered my popcorn... Hey Cackles, go purchase a HUGE bucket cuz President Trump is gonna mop the floor with you... IF YOU MAKE IT.. TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA You do believe anything the Dear Leader has to say. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 25 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: Even for a lying losing low IQ felon like Trump, you would think they could do better than this. Trump Campaign: "Kamala Was In On It, She Covered Up Joe's Obvious Mental Decline" First off, where is Joe's dementia diagnosis? There is none. What we do know is that Trump was judged by a jury of his peers to be a crook. Several times. He is the kind of raping felon Kamala Harris has thrown behind bars many times. Joe Biden is a patriot who loves his nation and put love of country above his political ambition. He listened. 57 % of Americans want Donald Trump to step aside, too. Will Trump listen? Or is this always about his lies and his own ambition? (Dumb question, I know.) Kamala Harrfis has not covered up the fact that Joe Biden is old. America figured that out just fine on her own. Kamala Harris will not cover up the fact that Donald Trump is an old rapist lying felon. She will not cover up his rape. She will not cover up the fact that he is a crook. She will not cover up his lies. She will not cover up his desire to kill Obamacare. She will not cover up his billionaire tax cuts. She will not cover up his 30 % murder spike. She will not cover up that he killed factory jobs in America. She will not cover up that he killed a compromise immigration bill, after which Biden took unilateral action and border crossing went down 40 %. When will Republicans stop covering up for old gross lying rapist felon Donald Trump? When well they address the Trump rapes? When will they address the Trump attacks on democracy and free elections? When will they address the Trump crimes? When will they apologize for his mob beating cops viciously? When will they for once tell the fucking truth to Americans about the crook they nominated for President? Well the bottom line now is that the only Old and mentally in decline person running IS Donnie, and thats an argument he will have a very hard time disputing. She is not the official nominee yet, but we already see the vicious attacks of her from the Trump Team.... Tick, tick, tick till they start on her race. Donnies Crazy will be on full display, and Cackles will be attacking him at every turn... ITS ON and the "bandages" are off.....The Prosecutor vs The Felon. And the money has already started rolling in for Dems.....(someone please check on EmmetK, he may be pre-suicidal ?) stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Trump will get so concerned about running against Kamala he will have a heart attack. Old, obese people like Plump need to be concerned about stress. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 33 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Given the recent Supreme Court ruling on Presidential immunity, those phony charges will be thrown out. No reason for DJT to drop out when he is leading the race. As for your race-baiting, we all know that comes directly from the DNC/MSNBC playbook. When you got nothing else, play the race/sex card. And FWIW, I love REAL black women that exude joy, intelligence, truth, and hope. But Kamala is only half black. These are real black women who exude hope and joy whom I admire: TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 24 minutes ago, EmmetK said: You and the MSNBC audience may care what Rick Wilson has to say. 99% of America, including me, have ZERO interest. Cackling Kamala covered up Biden's mental decline, and Dementia Joe covered up Cackling Kamala's complete ineptitude and irresponsibility. Cackling Kamala has been lying and covering up Dementia Joe's senility for years. This new ad, which will be flooding the battleground states, is already out: "I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he does either"... The best line of any debate... But I can't wait to see just HOW BAD Cackles does... I already ordered my popcorn... Hey Cackles, go purchase a HUGE bucket cuz President Trump is gonna mop the floor with you... IF YOU MAKE IT.. TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA The deep lack of respect for the intelligence of Americans, and Black women in particular, shines through. Kamala Harris did not cover up the fact that Joe Biden is old. It is insulting to Americans to suggest they did not figure that out on their own. They did. Why do you cover up that Trump is a crook? Why do you cover up that Trump is a rapist? Why do you deny his 30 % murder spike? Why won't you guys work for the compromise ideas that got border crossings down 40 % since Trump killed the bill conservative Republicans spent a year putting together? It is insulting to Americans, and especially the 57 % who want Trump to step aside, to refuse to listen to them and to instead just lie to them. When will Trump stop being a liar and a crook? When will he listen to America, rather than lie to America? You are just being insulting and dumb. What a shock! GOP is pissed Quote It's striking how much GOP anger there is over today's news. Donald Trump's campaign is built to beat Joe Biden. One GOP source tells me he doubts Trump will debate Vice President Kamala Harris — he'll likely call her an illegitimate candidate. JONATHAN LEMIRE 07/21/2024, 4:51PM ET What weak, feeble losers! What losers! How weak! How pathetic! These weak feeble losers did not realize that Joe Biden is a patriot? These weak feeble losers did not realize that they could spend endless amounts of dirty money from billionaire and millionaire donors who want their fat cat tax cuts, all to trash Joe Biden, and Biden would not outsmart them? How weak! How feeble! What pathetic losers! Why do you like these losers? These losers lost in 2018. These losers lost in 2020. These losers lost in 2022. These losers lost in 2023. And now these losers will lose in 2024. Seriously, you fucking stupid clown. Seriously. Did Susie Wilies really not see this coming? Pelosi and Biden are not demented. They are pros in their 80's who are sly, smart, and cunning. You really have such shit for brains that you did not see how easy your whole rotten anti-democratic plan made it to pull the rug out from under you? You idiots deserve to lose. Now all the racist and sexist attacks will start. "Kamala Harris is illegitimate". Where have we heard that before? How weak! Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 26 minutes ago, EmmetK said: You and the MSNBC audience may care what Rick Wilson has to say. 99% of America, including me, have ZERO interest. Cackling Kamala covered up Biden's mental decline, and Dementia Joe covered up Cackling Kamala's complete ineptitude and irresponsibility. Cackling Kamala has been lying and covering up Dementia Joe's senility for years. This new ad, which will be flooding the battleground states, is already out: When you constantly reference 99% of America this and that, what you really mean to say is approx 47% of Americans, which make up Trump supporters dont care what the Dem camp has to say. If it was 99% as you claim, then everyone would be supporting Trump, right ? A foolish notion by any account. You have that unique Trumpian way of twisting statements to support your gaslighting. But by now, we all know you, so 99% of us have no interest. When you have some time from campaigning, lets talk about How Many coverups Trump has been involved in, for example "Hush Money". Oh right, he was CONVICTED for that. Before you talk about dirt in the Dem s house, clean up the dirt in your own house. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 28 minutes ago, Bingo T Dog said: Trump will get so concerned about running against Kamala he will have a heart attack. Old, obese people like Plump need to be concerned about stress. Nah, God will save him from that too. "I survived a Bullet AND a heart attack for you"..... Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 21 Members Posted July 21 59 minutes ago, EmmetK said: You and the MSNBC audience may care what Rick Wilson has to say. 99% of America, including me, have ZERO interest. Cackling Kamala covered up Biden's mental decline, and Dementia Joe covered up Cackling Kamala's complete ineptitude and irresponsibility. Cackling Kamala has been lying and covering up Dementia Joe's senility for years. This new ad, which will be flooding the battleground states, is already out: "I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he does either"... The best line of any debate... But I can't wait to see just HOW BAD Cackles does... I already ordered my popcorn... Hey Cackles, go purchase a HUGE bucket cuz President Trump is gonna mop the floor with you... IF YOU MAKE IT.. Hey EmmetK, you might want to look at the 27.5 million raised by ActBlue for Kamala in the past 5 hrs since the big announcement. The DEMS will bury Trump. He better get Putin and Orban on the phone. Quote
RockyRoadTravel Posted July 22 Posted July 22 How long before the defeated former president tries to wiggle his way out of the scheduled debate he'd agreed to? No one is ever going to accuse Trump of bravery. lookin 1 Quote
a-447 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The debate will not happen. Trump is already trying to weazel his way out of it by insisting the debate be moved to Fox "News". There's no way a convicted felon will face a seasoned prosecutor. lookin 1 Quote
vinapu Posted July 22 Posted July 22 5 hours ago, EmmetK said: BRING HER ON!!!!! Trump will crush her in a debate. Vegas is already taking bets on how many times that Cackles will break out in uncontrolled laughter during the Trump/Cackles debate https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826639924748087 TRUMP/VANCE 2024 MAGA nothing wrong with having president who laughs heartily, better that dour Orange Overlord for sure Quote
vinapu Posted July 22 Posted July 22 5 hours ago, Bingo T Dog said: Tell Grandpa Trump to take his Geritol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes , time to start reminding voters he is already eligible for Social Security pension for long 11 years Quote
Stable Genius Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Biden just cemented his place as one of the very best presidents of all time. I can imagine how difficult this was but I applaud his courage and integrity. Thank you! RockyRoadTravel and lookin 1 1 Quote