Popular Post roughjock Posted July 18 Popular Post Posted July 18 Spent a few weeks in Manila and Boracay. This section isn’t very active, so thought I’d type up a quick report. Stayed in Makati in Manila, near the red light district. I would avoid this area. It’s very congested with traffic and filled with people asking for money and trying to sell you viagra and cialis on the streets. It’s not dangerous, but a stark difference when compared to BGC. Public transit is poor in the city so you will be taking Grab a lot. Walking is harder than in other Asian countries due. The traffic flow made more sense in Vietnam than here, for example. Sometimes the traffic light would be red, yet a traffic attendant would still be directing traffic to keep moving, even as a group of pedestrians tried to cross on a walk signal. It literally makes no sense, so don’t try and comprehend it. There is no “rule.” Even motorcycle drivers seem less capable of navigating around pedestrians as compared to Vietnam, where as long as you keep a steady pace, you can cross even the busiest streets. Most hotels have security/doormen. If you invite anyone over, they will often take the ID of your guest and register them in a log book. When the guest leaves, you will be checked on and made sure you’re okay before the guest is allowed to leave. You can get past this by walking your guest in and out, but if you are nervous of people knowing your business, keep in mind that it’s impossible to be discreet. I used Grindr only while here. It’s very active. In Makati, there were tons of profiles less than 500m away. If you are white, you will get 50 messages per day or more. the typical conversation goes like “Hello, where are you staying? What are you doing? Can I come now?” They don’t ask for photos or nudes or talk for long. If you’re white, they want you regardless of age or weight or dick size or sex position. Almost everyone is a “top.” The men are… well, not my type. When compared to other Asian countries, the men on the apps are young and cute-faced, with either thin bodies or chubby bodies. Their dicks are often quite small, 3-5” in length, but usually on the thicker side. Every is circumcised. They are often quite poorly done. The sex skill seems to be quite poor as well. Many tops (and even bottoms) will cum in a few minutes. Or they will fuck for a minute, take a break, fuck for a minute, take a break, etc. Many are into side fun, either cuddling or just receiving a blowjob. Normally I am for this, but the dicks are often not fun to suck due to their length and thickness. “Moneyboys” are available, or as they say, MT, or massage therapist. Many will offer you massage and extra services, where you pay one price for a massage, one price for a massage and sucking, and another price for massage and penetration. While I have no qualms with paying, I found it hilarious the guys offering these services. Often they were quite ugly, older, or very chubby. As someone who pays for big dicks or muscular builds, I could not find either for free OR paid. 200+ unique profiles messaged me, so it wasn’t due to lack of options. Many men are discreet here. They will either have no photo, a photo of scenery, an older photo from 10 years ago, or bad photos of themselves. Many times you will ask for nudes and they say “I don’t have.” You have a phone, right? Instead they will push you to come immediately. Avoid these encounters. If you invite someone over, expect them to stay a while, or try. Expect questions like “do you have a boyfriend?” Or “can we be boyfriends?” Within minutes of meeting. If you have sex, it’s not uncommon for them to say they love you. If they message you, be upfront about not being interested, otherwise they will continuously message you every single day, and sometimes even find your social media profiles and reach out there. I did not see a lot of foreigners in Manila. Many said they go to the islands. In Boracay though, it was the exact same. Many say the options are better here. This was not the case. While some of the locals are quite hot, dark skinned, lean and somewhat muscular, a little rough around the edges, these are the straight boat men. On the apps, it’s the same. Chubby, or older, or very young, and clingy. The beaches are beautiful and you don’t get harassed as much as other beach destinations, but this country is not one I’d go to for sex. Unless you are looking for smaller dicks, boys that will cling to you like you’re a trophy, and headaches, I’d say this is not your place. tm_nyc, vaughn, NIrishGuy and 10 others 12 1 Quote
floridarob Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Very good and accurate report...although many similar things happened with me, there were some differences....perhaps my interview skills have sharpened over the years of many fake pics and duds? I wasn't a fan of PH on my 1st trip some years ago, however from my last one in January/February...I'm going back to do a repeat with some guys and hopefully find a few new ones the end of the year. roughjock 1 Quote
Heba as-sa3udeya Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Nice report roughjoke The straight boat men are not available ? garygx 1 Quote
12is12 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Dscrption of their dicks took away all my enthusiasm. )-: vinapu 1 Quote
roughjock Posted July 19 Author Posted July 19 23 hours ago, Heba as-sa3udeya said: Nice report roughjoke The straight boat men are not available ? Not that I could figure out. Heba as-sa3udeya 1 Quote
hojacat Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 7/17/2024 at 8:07 PM, roughjock said: Public transit is poor in the city so you will be taking Grab a lot. Turned out that taking a Grab, at least for me when I was in Manila around 2 years ago, was much more difficult that I was expecting. Lots of times I had to wait 4-5 minutes just to have a car assigned to me and then wait sometimes even 10 minutes for the car to arrive. Around 4-5 times I even got a "All drivers are busy. Retry later" message. Not sure if the situation is better now but at that made my trip quite On 7/17/2024 at 8:07 PM, roughjock said: Most hotels have security/doormen. If you invite anyone over, they will often take the ID of your guest and register them in a log book. When the guest leaves, you will be checked on and made sure you’re okay before the guest is allowed to leave. You can get past this by walking your guest in and out, but if you are nervous of people knowing your business, keep in mind that it’s impossible to be discreet. I think it's mostly like that in Manila. none of my guests had to go through check-in at the hotel I was staying in Puerto Princesa, Palawan. It's still more flexible that in some other countries like Vietnam where the check-in at hotels is strictly enforced. In both countries if you want more privacy (maybe because you are bringing 2+ more at the same time) an Airbnb is the best choice. On 7/17/2024 at 8:07 PM, roughjock said: As someone who pays for big dicks or muscular builds, I could not find either for free OR paid. 200+ unique profiles messaged me, so it wasn’t due to lack of options. I think the Philippines is more suitable for a top tourist. My main issue with Pinoy guys though is that a good number of them are not as smooth as other Asians. It's true also that they tend to be super clingy. Way more than other guys in SEA. vinapu 1 Quote
TMax Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 11:07 AM, roughjock said: Their dicks are often quite small, 3-5” in length, but usually on the thicker side. Every is circumcised. They are often quite poorly done. When I first realised I like cocks I thought maybe the Filipino ones would be preferable due to circumcision but after seeing how they butcher it I have come to prefer a good uncut Thai cock (or Lao, Viet etc). Thanks for posting the report. vinapu 1 Quote
floridarob Posted July 19 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, TMax said: I thought maybe the Filipino ones would be preferable due to circumcision Indonesians have nicely done cut dicks.....I grew up in Boston where everyone was cut at that time. Now living in Mexico and traveling to places where everyone is uncut...I like a nice cut dick for a change and Indonesia doesn't disappoint. TMax, groenthusiast and reader 3 Quote
Heba as-sa3udeya Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Oldaddy’s contributions made me want to visit this country full of straight boys willing to get sucked but this thread cools me down Quote
12is12 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Precisely my sentiment. Question to the experienced: isnt there at least 1 suckable cock in 50 daily grindr messages? Or is it impossible to know in advance bcs they dont send nudes? Quote
reader Posted July 20 Posted July 20 5 hours ago, Heba as-sa3udeya said: Oldaddy’s contributions made me want to visit this country full of straight boys willing to get sucked My experience over a half century strongly suggests there are straight guys EVERYWHERE willing to get sucked. Count on it. floridarob, groenthusiast, vinapu and 1 other 3 1 Quote
floridarob Posted July 20 Posted July 20 12 hours ago, 12is12 said: Precisely my sentiment. Question to the experienced: isnt there at least 1 suckable cock in 50 daily grindr messages? Or is it impossible to know in advance bcs they dont send nudes? Yes, it's possible...I found guys on twitter that showed everything to prevent any unpleasant surprises. reader 1 Quote
roughjock Posted July 21 Author Posted July 21 On 7/19/2024 at 2:43 PM, hojacat said: Turned out that taking a Grab, at least for me when I was in Manila around 2 years ago, was much more difficult that I was expecting. It hasn’t improved. My local friends said the government has restricted the amount of Grab drivers that can be employed. At certain times I was unable to get a Grab at all. From BGC to Makati for example, at 5-6PM. Tried for 35 minutes. Many times you will wait for an assigned car, then they end up being 15 minutes away. I was selecting 4-seat, 6-seat, taxi AND shared for options too. On 7/19/2024 at 2:43 PM, hojacat said: I think it's mostly like that in Manila. none of my guests had to go through check-in at the hotel Yes, in Boracay the hotel has a “no visitors in the room” policy, but guests can simply come up the elevator without anyone asking for their ID. On 7/19/2024 at 2:43 PM, hojacat said: I think the Philippines is more suitable for a top tourist. I did top, I put my dick into a bottom for three thrusts and he shot all over his chests. Then he wanted to record a video of me fucking him to show his friends that he had sex with a foreigner. 19 hours ago, Heba as-sa3udeya said: Oldaddy’s contributions made me want to visit this country full of straight boys willing to get sucked You can suck straight guys, sure, but I don’t want to suck a tiny dick. Just my preference. 17 hours ago, 12is12 said: Or is it impossible to know in advance bcs they dont send nudes? Some do send nudes. Be persistent with them. But they are usually obscure photos or at weird angles. I even had few send fake photos that I reversed image searched to verify it wasn’t theirs. vinapu and floridarob 2 Quote
hojacat Posted July 21 Posted July 21 5 hours ago, roughjock said: It hasn’t improved. My local friends said the government has restricted the amount of Grab drivers that can be employed. At certain times I was unable to get a Grab at all. From BGC to Makati for example, at 5-6PM. Tried for 35 minutes. Many times you will wait for an assigned car, then they end up being 15 minutes away. I was selecting 4-seat, 6-seat, taxi AND shared for options too. Thanks for this piece of information @roughjock Honestly, was the biggest issue during my trip to the Phils, mostly because it was unexpected. It started at the airport where I tried for around 45 minutes and at the end had to queue up for a regular taxi. Pretty frustrating, especially when it happed night time.. Never had this kind of problem in other countries where Grab is available. I would say Vietnam is probably the best. Never had to wait more than 2 minutes for the car to show up. I was actually thinking of going to Cebu this December, as I have never been in that city. It's choice between Cebu and Phnom Penh, as the last time I was in Cambodia was around 15 years, while I was still in college, so it was before the advent of apps. I was already leaning more towards PP but your info kinda sealed the deal. Quote
12is12 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Btw the Grab, unappealing dicks and clingy guys - looks like the right choice. Quote
roughjock Posted July 21 Author Posted July 21 59 minutes ago, hojacat said: I was already leaning more towards PP but your info kinda sealed the deal. I found Grindr in PP be very active. Gay saunas and clubs were okay. People are friendly towards foreigners. Easy to meet locals. Quite a few hung men. Space Hair has very attractive men and the drinks are cheap. They will sit and drink with you and flex and take photos without needing many tips at all. Would go back to PP, although it’s not as walkable and public transit is also poor. reader, groenthusiast and Tartegogo 3 Quote
vinapu Posted July 21 Posted July 21 10 hours ago, roughjock said: Would go back to PP, although it’s not as walkable and public transit is also poor. but remorks and tuktuks are cheap, specially when one is using passap app. I second your assessment of Space Hair and it's boys Tartegogo 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 20 hours ago, roughjock said: It hasn’t improved. My local friends said the government has restricted the amount of Grab drivers that can be employed. At certain times I was unable to get a Grab at all. From BGC to Makati for example, at 5-6PM. Tried for 35 minutes. Many times you will wait for an assigned car, then they end up being 15 minutes away. I was selecting 4-seat, 6-seat, taxi AND shared for options too. Yes, in Boracay the hotel has a “no visitors in the room” policy, but guests can simply come up the elevator without anyone asking for their ID. I did top, I put my dick into a bottom for three thrusts and he shot all over his chests. Then he wanted to record a video of me fucking him to show his friends that he had sex with a foreigner. You can suck straight guys, sure, but I don’t want to suck a tiny dick. Just my preference. Some do send nudes. Be persistent with them. But they are usually obscure photos or at weird angles. I even had few send fake photos that I reversed image searched to verify it wasn’t theirs. How does one reverse image search? Quote
hojacat Posted July 21 Posted July 21 15 hours ago, roughjock said: Would go back to PP, although it’s not as walkable and public transit is also poor. Yeah, I remember it was kinda difficult crossing main roads in PP. How does Grab work in there btw? Did you have the same issues you encountered in Manila? Or is Passap, that @vinapu is mentioning, a better choice? Can you pay by card with Passap? 15 hours ago, roughjock said: I found Grindr in PP be very active. Is Grindr the most active app in Cambodia? In Vietnam for example, HeeSay(ex Blued) has way more profiles than Grindr or Hornet. I'm a slim top guy in my mid-30s, usually look younger than my age. Have had my fair share of Khmer guys in BKK, the US and a couple even in Europe. I'm quite the fan as they have twinkish looks, great bubble butts and tend to be really smooth. Do you think I'll get the same reception on the apps in there as in Manila or HCMC (as you himself said getting contacted by 30-40 profiles per day). I should also say that I'm also mostly looking for free sex. 16 hours ago, roughjock said: Gay saunas and clubs were okay. I rarely go to any club, bar, gogo bar, etc. Usually the only gay venues I care about are cruising bars and saunas. Now regarding the latter I have read mixed reviews in here. A Thai friend of mine though recommended I go to Paul and Arthur. He said he had lots of fun. I also will be there only from Sunday till Friday, as I want to spend the weekend in Singapore (quite the fan of the Keybox sauna in there). So not sure, if it will be the best time to go to a sauna in there. Sorry for this barrage of questions and I hope people in here don't feel I'm derailing this topic. Quote
roughjock Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 3 hours ago, Olddaddy said: How does one reverse image search? Google Images, it will give you the source of any photo Quote
roughjock Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 30 minutes ago, hojacat said: How does Grab work in there btw? Grab works well in PP! 31 minutes ago, hojacat said: Do you think I'll get the same reception on the apps People in PP were very friendly in my experience. It is easy to meet people. You don’t have to pay for sex. Easier than Vietnam. I didn’t use another app, only Grindr, and met people at clubs as well. vinapu 1 Quote
roughjock Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 33 minutes ago, hojacat said: Paul and Arthur I thought P&A was okay. It’s a very nice facility. It had less action than most saunas I’ve been to and seemed almost more like a place to relax. Quite a few foreigners as it’s pricy. I went with a local and got in for half price, as they have a promotion after a certain time. vinapu 1 Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I will go to The Philippines around Christmas time for 1 month as part of my 4-4-4 plan to minimize my time in Thailand to be under 180 days each year. I will use this one month to explore different places where I would want to live for 4 months each year - where I would live for 4 months in Thailand, 4 months in Vietnam, and perhaps 4 months in The Philippines. I have already ruled out Manila - Makati - for the same reasons that I do not live in Bangkok - too big, too polluted, too noisy, not on the sea, etcetra. So, I am thinking to start in Cebu City and then explore other Philippine cities that are on the sea. Anyone have any good experiences outside of Manila / Makati - that they believe that they could live in ? A city on the sea like Da Nang is in Vietnam would be PERFECT for me, as Da Nang offers: a big enough population, on a sea that is clean and beautiful, enough local guys to play with, a small gay life with a couple of gay bars and gay massage places, access to the nature (mountains, hiking, motorbike riding, etcetra), easy access to other nearby interesting places (Hoi An, Hue, Ba Na hills), international airport. Olddaddy, reader and vinapu 3 Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 9 minutes ago, 12is12 said: Enviable lifestyle Thai government is forcing my hand - I would prefer to stay in Thailand for the full year..... But Thailand has decided to break its "social contract" that it had formerly given to us expats who chose to retire here.... If Vietnam had a retirement visa - I would up and move right away to Vietnam - but unfortunately, they only have a 90 day tourist visa Quote
