Trump Shot at Rally

[t0oL1]

https://www.denverpost.com/2024/07/13/the-secret-service-is-investigating-how-a-gunman-who-shot-and-injured-trump-was-able-to-get-so-close/

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating how a gunman armed with an AR-style rifle was able to get close enough to shoot and injure former President Donald Trump at a rally Saturday in Pennsylvania, a monumental failure of one the agency’s core duties.

The gunman, who was killed by Secret Service personnel, fired multiple shots at the stage from an “elevated position outside of the rally venue,” the agency said.

An Associated Press analysis of more than a dozen videos and photos taken at the Trump rally, as well as satellite imagery of the site, shows the shooter was able to get astonishingly close to the stage where the former president was speaking. A video posted to social media and geolocated by the AP shows the body of a man wearing gray camouflage lying motionless on the roof of a manufacturing plant just north of the Butler Farm Show grounds, where Trump’s rally was held.

The roof was less than 150 meters (yards) from where Trump was speaking, a distance from which a decent marksman could reasonably hit a human-sized target. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which U.S. Army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M16 assault rifle in basic training. The AR-15, like the shooter at the Trump rally had, is the semi-automatic civilian version of the military M16.

The Secret Service didn’t have anybody at a late-night news conference where FBI and Pennsylvania State Police officials briefed reporters on the shooting investigation. FBI Special Agent in Charge Kevin Rojek said it was “surprising” that the gunman was able to fire at the stage before he was killed.

[Moses]

discussion is going here 

 

[vinapu]

Glad to hear Americans love with guns continues.

I happen to be in USA on that Saturday , watched a lot of their TV and all that hypocrisy of those who cried about no place of violence in democratic society was truly disgusting. Lunacy about misinterpreted Second Amendment continues and no doubt in future we will be entertained with those spectacles. Trump as president  did not lift a finger nor even spoke about need to restrict access to the guns  so got taste of his own medicine.

I feel sorry for that innocent bystander shot on the spot. USA unique way of reducing overpopulation is still in full swing.

[reader]

Nothing will change because pols in both parties are cowards on this issue.

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, reader said:

Nothing will change because pols in both parties are cowards on this issue.

it would bee nice to the USA and the world if both Trump and Binden used opportunity ,  turned cowards now  and announced that they decided not to take any risks in current atmosphere and are withdrawing their noble candidacies. 

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, reader said:

Nothing will change because pols in both parties are cowards on this issue.

and there something in the water that creates such unique love for guns there.

One of my classmates , hippie type of 'make love not war " kind,  after moving to USA, Buffalo  NY of all places ,  three years later when I visited him turned out to be proud owner  of two guns. Transformation shocked me more than actual sign of those pistols. And of course old NRA argument of people are shooting , not guns and that knife is also deadly weapon was presented. 

[thaiophilus]

20 minutes ago, vinapu said:

"people are shooting , not guns"

quoting someone else's tired old trope of flawed logic.

The reality is like the "fire triangle" we are taught in fire safety courses: to start a fire you need fuel, oxidizer and heat. Remove any one and the result is no fire. With firearms there's also a triangle: the weapon, the person firing it, and the person getting shot. Same logic applies, but ease of removal is different.

[vinapu]

12 minutes ago, thaiophilus said:

 the person firing it, and the person getting shot.

not that rarely , both are one and the same person with probability of shooting at target close to 100% 

[vinapu]

16 minutes ago, thaiophilus said:

quoting someone else's tired old trope of flawed logic.

 

there's no logic in almost universal gun ownership. If it was , other countries would follow the same. It's just folklore, bloody remnants of lawless and long gone past. Hopefully eventually it will fade away the same like quadrigas gave way to Fiat 600 in Rome.  

[gayinpattaya]

Watching Americans online celebrating the near murder of a husband and father, tells me everything I need to know about modern day Americans. Utterly vile. 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Watching Americans online celebrating the near murder of a husband and father, tells me everything I need to know about modern day Americans. Utterly vile. 

perhaps you should change website you are watching.

Are you also trying to say  to if somebody is not a husband or father,  is more suitable to be shot at ?

 

And definitely there are better role models for fathers and husbands than survivor. 

[unicorn]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

...

And definitely there are better role models for fathers and husbands than survivor. 

[gayinpattaya]

On 7/16/2024 at 4:23 AM, vinapu said:

perhaps you should change website you are watching.

Are you also trying to say  to if somebody is not a husband or father,  is more suitable to be shot at ?

 

And definitely there are better role models for fathers and husbands than survivor. 

Perhaps I should. 
It seems this website is controlled and frequented by American far left extremists who condone murder. 

And here I was thinking this website was about Thailand? How foolish of me. 

Either way, I hope Trump wins the election. At this point I think it's done. I can watch all these woke idiot tears and laugh. I can't wait!  
 

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, gayinpattaya said:

. At this point I think it's done.

How did those elections go in your fatherland?

[Latbear4blk]

A husband and a father!

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Either way, I hope Trump wins the election. At this point I think it's done. 
 

this is what Marine LePen thought in recent French elections as well

[gayinpattaya]

5 hours ago, floridarob said:

How did those elections go in your fatherland?

Exactly as predicted. An unelected, lying foreigner was voted out. Two party system. I'm missing your point maybe?

[floridarob]

1 minute ago, gayinpattaya said:

I'm missing your point maybe?

You usually do....don't be so sour.

[gayinpattaya]

10 minutes ago, floridarob said:

You usually do....don't be so sour.

Sour? I'm happy as fuck lol.

[Mavica]

7 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

And here I was thinking this website was about Thailand? How foolish of me. 

Clearly, you do not understand the focus of the forums.

[Mavica]

15 minutes ago, gayinpattaya said:

Sour? I'm happy as fuck lol.

Your contributions to the forums suggest otherwise.

[Mavica]

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me, a queer
And there was no one left
To speak out for me, and Donald Trump smiled.

 

 

[floridarob]

10 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Sour? I'm happy as fuck lol.

Ignorance is bliss...

[t0oL1]

[vinapu]

very accurate. I happened to be in USA on that Saturday and after watching comments on TV hypocrisy was first which came to my mind.