Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 1 minute ago, KeepItReal said: This incident reminds us of something that every gay man knows...every inch counts! (Too soon??) Believe me, any Sharpshooter that would undertake that task, WOULD NOT MISS....... They got Kennedy, didnt they ? Quote
Members Riobard Posted July 14 Members Posted July 14 A few days ago it could be said a lot could happen over 4 months. Who knew it would be this soon and so game-changing? Now anything negative said by his opponents will come across as crassly, insensitively traumatogenic. PTSD the answer to any deficiency, heroism the reason to support. Whoever shot a hole in his helix tossed a horseshoe up his hiney. I said Biden should lay off the mocking rhetoric to go high. Now he’ll have to lay off of it because a decent person will. Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Spanish ABC summarizing event very well: "The bullet was intended for Trump but hit Biden." translated by Google: "Trump is a compulsive liar, a criminal and a clever populist, but none of his flaws can justify someone making an attempt on his life. In fact, when violence is expressed in such a perfect way, beyond the obvious censorship, we must ask ourselves what made it possible for us to get here. Trump has been rightly criticized many times, but a context of phobia and contempt has also been cultivated that far exceeds legitimate political criticism. We live in a permanent alert against the extreme right, but we have forgotten that hate has no ideology and is always the same. Trump is a politician full of flaws, but he also has some virtues. Among them is knowing how to capitalize on any advantage and yesterday's execrable attack gave him a circumstance in which he was able to exploit his personality like never before. "Fight, fight," he told his audience with his arm raised and his face bloody. Give yourself a few hours and we'll see that sequence printed on mugs, memes and t-shirts. It is impossible for Democrats to win in that image. The bullet was intended for Trump but hit Biden." Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 They interviewed several Trump supporting yokels as they were leaving the event, who were upset and crying. when interviewed, they said "this should NEVER happen in this country. He is a good man trying to help us all and Save the country"..... WHO are these morons, probably the ones that cant read P2025. Violence is OK when its acted upon the left, but NOT on their side.... "Why would someone want to kill a God fearing man like Trump" ? Get a grip you LOSERS, your guy Trump created all this. Political violence is his Viagra. Dupe you once, you get a pass Dupe you twice, OK, maybe you fell asleep ? Dupe you multiple time, YOU ARE JUST A BRAINLESS SCHMUCK and cant be redeemed. IMHO, the only person in this scenario "trying to save America" WAS THE SHOOTER. May he rest in Peace. Quote
KeepItReal Posted July 14 Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, Riobard said: A few days ago it could be said a lot could happen over 4 months. Who knew it would be this soon and so game-changing? Now anything negative said by his opponents will come across as crassly, insensitively traumatogenic. PTSD the answer to any deficiency, heroism the reason to support. Whoever shot a hole in his helix tossed a horseshoe up his hiney. I said Biden should lay off the mocking rhetoric to go high. Now he’ll have to lay off of it because a decent person will. Maybe. We all remember how sympathetic and compassionate Trump was when Nancy Pelosi was the target of a killer. Oh, who am I kidding - he had no sympathy or compassion even though Nancy's husband ended up in the hospital. No special exceptions for Trump - he deserves the same treatment as he dished out. My 2c. floridarob 1 Quote
Members Thomas_88 Posted July 14 Members Posted July 14 14 minutes ago, Suckrates said: The SS didnt seem to shield him that well when they stood him up. They held him open for the whole world to see, and if there WAS a real shooter, he could have been shot again ! That mistake was NOT a gaff, it was intentional, and probably demanded by Trump. Anthony Gulielmi on X (Twitter): "...we added protective resources & technology & capabilities...", according to this site: https://uarmprotection.com/product/bb-ballistic-briefcase/ One briefcase costs about one thousand US$, I think if you buy them in bulk they could be even cheaper. Quote
Members Riobard Posted July 14 Members Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, KeepItReal said: Maybe. We all remember how sympathetic and compassionate Trump was when Nancy Pelosi was the target of a killer. Oh, who am I kidding - he had no sympathy or compassion even though Nancy's husband ended up in the hospital. No special exceptions for Trump - he deserves the same treatment as he dished out. My 2c. He does, and will as President. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, Riobard said: A few days ago it could be said a lot could happen over 4 months. Who knew it would be this soon and so game-changing? Now anything negative said by his opponents will come across as crassly, insensitively traumatogenic. PTSD the answer to any deficiency, heroism the reason to support. Whoever shot a hole in his helix tossed a horseshoe up his hiney. While in theory I would agree with you, but we are talking Trump here. Seconds after the incident his team starting bombarding the airwaves with "left-bashing" and this whole event is staged to make Biden the whipping post and take the fall. I'm sorry but Biden will have every right to counter attack in any way he feels appropriate, and I support it. Quote
KeepItReal Posted July 14 Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, Moses said: Spanish ABC summarizing event very well: "The bullet was intended for Trump but hit Biden." translated by Google: "Trump is a compulsive liar, a criminal and a clever populist, but none of his flaws can justify someone making an attempt on his life. In fact, when violence is expressed in such a perfect way, beyond the obvious censorship, we must ask ourselves what made it possible for us to get here. Trump has been rightly criticized many times, but a context of phobia and contempt has also been cultivated that far exceeds legitimate political criticism. We live in a permanent alert against the extreme right, but we have forgotten that hate has no ideology and is always the same. Trump is a politician full of flaws, but he also has some virtues. Among them is knowing how to capitalize on any advantage and yesterday's execrable attack gave him a circumstance in which he was able to exploit his personality like never before. "Fight, fight," he told his audience with his arm raised and his face bloody. Give yourself a few hours and we'll see that sequence printed on mugs, memes and t-shirts. It is impossible for Democrats to win in that image. The bullet was intended for Trump but hit Biden." Really? That makes no sense. The shooter was a white, registered Republican with an AR-15 type rifle. How does that even correlate with Biden? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, KeepItReal said: Really? That makes no sense. The shooter was a white, registered Republican with an AR-15 type rifle. How does that even correlate with Biden? I think Moses meant in the repercussions of the attack. The plan is to make Biden take the hit (fall).... As well, many Republicans, those with a modicum of brain tissue are not down with the P2025 plan and oppose many of its policies, at least the ones they can understand. So I would not be suprised that Trump would garner many right wing enemies. Quote
KeepItReal Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Thomas_88 said: Anthony Gulielmi on X (Twitter): "...we added protective resources & technology & capabilities...", according to this site: https://uarmprotection.com/product/bb-ballistic-briefcase/ One briefcase costs about one thousand US$, I think if you buy them in bulk they could be even cheaper. I am having trouble following your logic. Why does the availability of a briefcase matter? He wasnt assaulted in an office shooting or on the subway heading home from the office? Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, KeepItReal said: How does that even correlate with Biden? Reps will use this "heroic picture" in all advertising and promotions from now, and Dems have nothing to shout out this whole orchestra. Quote
KeepItReal Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Just now, Moses said: Reps will use this "heroic picture" in all advertising and promotions from now, and Dems have nothing to shout out this whole orchestra. So, not considering that the Democrats have been trying to ban assault rifles for years and have warned against Trump's brash rhetoric that encourages violence? Maybe they should just remind voters of that, no? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 Gentlemen, Thank you ALL for allowing a calm and CIVIL conversation on this topic. We all may have different opinions here, and not agree on things, but at least we are keeping it "Classy" I appreciate all your cooperation and reserve. Sucky Stable Genius 1 Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 minute ago, KeepItReal said: So, not considering that the Democrats have been trying to ban assault rifles for years and have warned against Trump's brash rhetoric that encourages violence? Maybe they should just remind voters of that, no? It doesn't work. Shooting follows whole US history. 2 Kennedy, Roosevelt, Reagan... Dems whole US history have this argument, but Reps still win elections. Bright image of "strong heroic president" will work much more fast. And to oppose that image Dems have just weak and old Biden. Quote
Members Thomas_88 Posted July 14 Members Posted July 14 (edited) 24 minutes ago, KeepItReal said: I am having trouble following your logic. Why does the availability of a briefcase matter? He wasnt assaulted in an office shooting or on the subway heading home from the office? It doesn't matter because in my opinion it's very unlikely Trump would use the subway. Edited July 14 by Thomas_88 typo Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 The only piece that surprises me here that if this was an orchestrated "plan" by the Trump team, wwhy the shooter was a young, WHITE registered Republican. It would have been much more representative of Trump to make the shooter an Immigrant, or person of color, since that would enhance their narrative even further. Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Suckrates said: why the shooter was a young, WHITE registered Republican. Any businessman will tell you: there is nothing worse than a disappointed former brand loyalist. The biggest haters are former supporters. By the way, this registered Republican recently donated to the Biden campaign. Stable Genius 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Moses said: Any businessman will tell you: there is nothing worse than a disappointed former brand loyalist. The biggest haters are former supporters. By the way, this registered Republican recently donated to the Biden campaign. I agree completely. Any individual able to break free from the Cult of Trump has a rational and practical view of the country and world politics, and no doubt would end up as the opposition to Trumps goals. Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, Suckrates said: a rational and practical view of the country and world politics A rational and practical view is unlikely to be combined with shooting. In this case, a supporter of one hysteria became a supporter of another hysteria. The Dems have been too hysterical that no one but Biden will save America from the impending fascism. At the same time, Biden himself looks unconvincing - weak, unclear in his image and in his conversation. The kid weighed Biden's chances and decided that Biden did not have them, and tried to change history and save the nation as best he could (it is clear that in addition to determination, there must also be a share of psychopathy). Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On Reddit.com I'm watching few gay groups, most of guys there are from US, and most of them are Dems by understandable reasons. They promoting Biden, supporting him. And after debates in these groups prevailing panic. Guys stopped to promote Biden, and mainstream of debates now is "to where to run?", "what blue state has affordable prices for to live?", "what EU country accept Americans to move in?"... Quote
Stable Genius Posted July 14 Posted July 14 I was thinking today about the degree to which the Secret Service will lock down all future Trump rallies to protect him from further attempts on his life. Meanwhile, our school children practice active shooter drills because the party Trump represents and the Supreme Court he's packed believe none of the rest of us deserve the same protections. Bingo T Dog 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted July 14 Author Members Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, Stable Genius said: I was thinking today about the degree to which the Secret Service will lock down all future Trump rallies to protect him from further attempts on his life. Meanwhile, our school children practice active shooter drills because the party Trump represents and the Supreme Court he's packed believe none of the rest of us deserve the same protections. Quote
Moses Posted July 14 Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Stable Genius said: our school children practice active shooter drills because ... because half of their parents, or maybe almost all are his supporters. Quote
