reader Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 Have to tell you, Moses, I’m feeling pretty good about now. Have gotten you to make a dozen posts full of nonsense and self promotion. Sure, you derailed the thread but it demonstrates that things can’t be that busy on the SR front if the boss can take that amount of time to talk to dead folks. Quote
Moses Posted June 24 Posted June 24 13 minutes ago, reader said: And why do you choose to continue to post your political nonsense to dead people? Is this forum for everyone? Quote
Moses Posted June 24 Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, reader said: Have gotten you to make a dozen posts full of nonsense and self promotion. Sure, you derailed the thread but it demonstrates If you will scroll back, you will find, what all my posts were about visas. Until Russophobes started to derail it. Quote
reader Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Moses said: Is this forum for everyone? According to you, only the dead. 1 minute ago, Moses said: If you will scroll back, you will find, what all my posts were about visas. Until Russophobes started to derail it. How can us ghosts derail anything. Quote
Moses Posted June 24 Posted June 24 41 minutes ago, reader said: According to you, only the dead. Read within context: "Dead for promotion" Quote
reader Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 Sorry to learn that you have passed and have now joined us, the living dead. 🙂 Quote
floridarob Posted June 24 Posted June 24 2 hours ago, Moses said: If you will scroll back, you will find, what all my posts were about visas. Until Russophobes started to derail it. Yet you didn't respond to these stats?? https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states-2024 Worldwide, the United States is home to more international migrants than any other country, and more than the next four countries—Germany, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United Kingdom—combined, according to the most recent UN Population Division data, from mid-2020. While the U.S. population represents about 5 percent of the total world population, close to 20 percent of all global migrants reside in the United States. unicorn 1 Quote
hojacat Posted June 24 Posted June 24 On 6/21/2024 at 9:07 PM, reader said: Schengen-style, visa-free travel in practice means seamless travel through the signatory countries without the burden of undue passport inspection. The concept creates a much more welcoming environment for tourists by simplifying the multi-entry process by air, sea and land. Given the hesitancy of ASEAN in agreeing any major policy changes and its history of non-intervention in the domestic affairs of member states, a joint visa plan by Thailand and her neighbors remains a worthy dream under discussion since 2010. ASEAN will sleep on it. It's not very clear from this article that when they mention a Schengen-type visa, are they just talking about a visa that allows you to enter in any of the ASEAN countries or they are talking about no border controls among ASEAN members by land, sea or air?! If it's the former, I don't see much benefits for most of the members of this forum, maybe only being able to stay up to 90 days in places like: Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos or Thailand where now you can only stay up to 30 0r 60 days. If it's the latter then the people more happy about it will actually be the citizens of the poorer ASEAN countries like: Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos as it will make it way more easier to work (although illegally) in the richer ASEAN countries like Singapore and Brunei, or even Malaysia and Thailand. Honestly, don't really see that happening anytime soon. Even in Europe poorer countries like Romania or Bulgaria only joined the Schengen area much later and after strong opposition, even though they had been EU members for a while. I can't imagine Singapore letting anyone from Myanmar or Laos pouring in their city without any checks. vinapu 1 Quote
Moses Posted June 24 Posted June 24 2 hours ago, floridarob said: Yet you didn't respond to these stats?? Should I? Topic is about visa/visa-free visit for tourists. There is nothing about migrants in starting post nor in my first reply to starting post Quote
floridarob Posted June 25 Posted June 25 2 hours ago, Moses said: Should I? Topic is about visa/visa-free visit for tourists. There is nothing about migrants in starting post nor in my first reply to starting post When I mentioned no one wants to STAY in Russia and you replied with some chart, trying to insinuate that Russia was on the same level as first world countries....but the stats I shared don't fit with your narrative 🙄 reader 1 Quote
vinapu Posted June 25 Posted June 25 11 hours ago, Moses said: in 2022 Russia got 2,8 millions refugees from Ukraine. No doubt result of invasion of Ukraine by Moldova unicorn, TMax and reader 3 Quote
Members unicorn Posted June 25 Members Posted June 25 8 hours ago, Moses said: Should I? Topic is about visa/visa-free visit for tourists. There is nothing about migrants in starting post nor in my first reply to starting post You're the one who brought up the subject. floridarob 1 Quote
floridarob Posted June 25 Posted June 25 On 6/23/2024 at 2:20 AM, Moses said: You are victim of Western propaganda. Welcome to real world: Russia is third in World and next after US country by incoming migration. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_sovereign_states_by_net_migration_rate&diffonly=true And to talk about Australia is funny: whole continent has population just a little bit more than population of Moscow and 10 mln less than living in Jakarta (Indonesia). This is the post he and I are referring to where you started talking about migration.....propaganda is like telling lies, hard to keep them straight after awhile. Quote
Moses Posted June 26 Posted June 26 So, guys, which one of your countries is visa-free for Thais? Quote
floridarob Posted June 26 Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Moses said: So, guys, which one of your countries is visa-free for Thais? None of the countries where a Thai would like to emigrate and stay to work/live..... Does Thailand make it easy for foreigners to immigrate.....what do they do when someone overstays their visa free stay?? https://visaguide.world/visa-free-countries/thai-passport/ On 6/24/2024 at 7:00 PM, floridarob said: When I mentioned no one wants to STAY in Russia and you replied with some chart, trying to insinuate that Russia was on the same level as first world countries....but the stats I shared don't fit with your narrative 🙄 Still no reply to this...come on, you can make up some nonsense , you're good at it. vinapu, TMax and reader 3 Quote
khaolakguy Posted June 26 Posted June 26 5 hours ago, Moses said: So, guys, which one of your countries is visa-free for Thais? Of course Russia doesn't put on those restrictions. You need all the help you can get to persuade people to travel there! reader and floridarob 2 Quote
Moses Posted June 26 Posted June 26 8 hours ago, floridarob said: None of the countries where a Thai would like to emigrate It is about tourism... do you count your self as immigrant in TH? Quote
Moses Posted June 26 Posted June 26 4 hours ago, khaolakguy said: Of course Russia doesn't put on those restrictions. You need all the help you can get to persuade people to travel there! Urban legends? Again Sun or Daily Mail? :)))) Inbound tourism grew: in 2024 in first quarter Russia got 4 times more of inbound tourists than in first quarter 2023. As usual Chinese and Turkish ppl are on 1 and 2nd rows. Surprisingly on 4th row Germany. Quote
khaolakguy Posted June 26 Posted June 26 4 hours ago, Moses said: Urban legends? Again Sun or Daily Mail? :)))) No, I followed the link that you provided which showed that in 2023 Russia, even without visa restrictions as you describe, was only proportionately the 71st nation in popularity for net migration. Whereas many other countries, even those with significant entry restrictions, still attracted proportionately more migrants. EG most of Western Europe, US, Canada. This is the link that you provided https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_sovereign_states_by_net_migration_rate&diffonly=true Quote
Moses Posted June 26 Posted June 26 21 minutes ago, khaolakguy said: was only proportionately the 71st nation in popularity for net migration Yeah, and number 1 and 2 are Syria and Ukraine. Do you want to continue compare countries by proportional net migration? If so then Venezuela is 39 points above United States. Do you want to discuss quality of life in both countries? Quote
khaolakguy Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Oh now you prefer to discuss the quality of life, not the statistics that you introduced! Of course! floridarob 1 Quote
Moses Posted June 26 Posted June 26 3 minutes ago, khaolakguy said: Oh now you prefer to discuss the quality of life, not the statistics that you introduced! Of course! No. I prefer to discuss trends. You saw trends in World Bank pic. As I wrote 2022 and 2023 are fluctuations because of Ukraine - in 2022 Russia got a lot of refugees and it gave giant spike in surplus, and in 2023 many of then slowly dissolved to many other locations outside of Russia and that gave huge minus. But in general Russia last decades performing better than most EU countries Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted June 27 Popular Post Posted June 27 4 hours ago, Moses said: But in general Russia last decades performing better than most EU countries wasn't it always a case ?It's why we love to fly Russian aircrafts, drove Russian cars, use Russian made computers and smartphones and splash ourselves with Russian aftershaves floridarob, KeepItReal, unicorn and 2 others 1 4 Quote
floridarob Posted June 27 Posted June 27 13 hours ago, Moses said: It is about tourism... do you count your self as immigrant in TH? You are victim of Western propaganda. Welcome to real world: Russia is third in World and next after US country by incoming migration. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_sovereign_states_by_net_migration_rate&diffonly=true And to talk about Australia is funny: whole continent has population just a little bit more than population of Moscow and 10 mln less than living in Jakarta (Indonesia). YOU brought migration into the equation....then try to pivot back to visas, You could give visa free entry to Hell, does it mean that's a good deal?? Quote
khaolakguy Posted June 27 Posted June 27 10 hours ago, Moses said: No. I prefer to discuss trends. You saw trends in World Bank pic. As I wrote 2022 and 2023 are fluctuations because of Ukraine - in 2022 Russia got a lot of refugees and it gave giant spike in surplus, and in 2023 many of then slowly dissolved to many other locations outside of Russia and that gave huge minus. But in general Russia last decades performing better than most EU countries Depends on how you are judging performance. You appear to be judging it by the more migrants Russia can achieve the better the performance. EU countries in contrast are trying to reduce/control migration and making it harder to access their countries. EU countries receive significant migration from all over the world while Russia's migration is predominately from former USSR countries. unicorn and floridarob 1 1 Quote
