Looking for Gay Groups/Clubs in Pattaya

[JD100]

-Hey Guys, I have been to Walking Street, Boyztown, Supertown -- but as a recent, permanent resident of Pattaya, I am looking for ANY gay groups, clubs, restaurants/bars, etc -- Any places where I can meet other gay x-pats besides the sex worker/money boy crowd.  

Any referrals/suggestions most appreciated!!

[floridarob]

29 minutes ago, JD100 said:

Any places where I can meet other gay x-pats besides the sex worker/money boy crowd.  

I think you're talking about expats of any age for chat, not sex.

If that's so, stop by Cock a 2 bar in Jomtien Complex. There is usually a lcommunal table set out front and the owner Rob, from Australia might be hosting various people that come and go, have a drink a chat....he's super friendly and likeable , you might even get to meet the notorious @gayinpattaya sitting there, he's really much nicer in person, just don't talk about politics with him , you'll walk away wondering , wtf just happened, lol

[kokopelli3]

In my experience it is not at all easy to meet gay expats in Pattaya without some sort of connection such as a friend of a friend. Wish I could assist you better.

There are often parties being held at the gay bars where many guys go for the food and drink which may give you an opportunity to meet other gays.

And you could casually strike up a conversation at a gay bar with someone by  introducing yourself and having a chat. 

[gayinpattaya]

7 hours ago, JD100 said:

-Hey Guys, I have been to Walking Street, Boyztown, Supertown -- but as a recent, permanent resident of Pattaya, I am looking for ANY gay groups, clubs, restaurants/bars, etc -- Any places where I can meet other gay x-pats besides the sex worker/money boy crowd.  

Any referrals/suggestions most appreciated!!

Be careful who you talk to and what you share with people in these areas. Take what your told with a grain of salt, and keep the default position that most people are lying through their teeth or thinking of a way to take advantage of you. 

If you want to make friends, don't do it in bars. At least not "commercial" bars. 
Most of my friends these days do things outside of bars. As do other groups of expats I see regularly getting coffee with the same group of guys, ect. Then again, my main social circle isn't all gay, or all male. Just expats, most of which have jobs or businesses here. 

[reader]

1 hour ago, gayinpattaya said:

Be careful who you talk to and what you share with people in these areas. Take what your told with a grain of salt, and keep the default position that most people are lying through their teeth or thinking of a way to take advantage of you. 
 

That aside, have a great time. 🙂

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, JD100 said:

-Hey Guys, I have been to Walking Street, Boyztown, Supertown -- but as a recent, permanent resident of Pattaya, I am looking for ANY gay groups, clubs, restaurants/bars, etc -- Any places where I can meet other gay x-pats besides the sex worker/money boy crowd.  

Any referrals/suggestions most appreciated!!

wait until bkkmfj responds as he is very friendly and as recent settler in Pattaya may have some leads for you.  

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

 and keep the default position that most people are lying through their teeth or thinking of a way to take advantage of you. 
 

fun in Pattaya never stops it seems

[Olddaddy]

The friendliest bars I went to on my last trip to Thailand were not farangs in Pattaya but in Bangkok of all places !

I did post about it here last month.

I felt like I was a movie star as a older gentleman KFC colonel sanders lookalike came over to me and introduced himself 

The Asian guy next to me was from Taiwan,all very friendly farangs 

In Pattaya no farangs talk to each other 

I really enjoyed the friendly farangs in Bangkok 

[floridarob]

7 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Most of my friends these days do things outside of bars.

You have friends 😱

[gayinpattaya]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

fun in Pattaya never stops it seems

From what I have been told by people with many years on me, it's always been this way. 

[gayinpattaya]

8 minutes ago, floridarob said:

You have friends 😱

Stop being sour. Your type are not welcome. 

[floridarob]

Just now, gayinpattaya said:

Stop being sour. Your type are not welcome. 

4am...go to sleep

[gayinpattaya]

2 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

In Pattaya no farangs talk to each other 

Yeah, we really do. 
We just didn't talk to you. 
You really think expats live lives alone without friends? 

[gayinpattaya]

2 minutes ago, floridarob said:

4am...go to sleep

Just woke up! 

[bkkmfj2648]

20 hours ago, vinapu said:

wait until bkkmfj responds as he is very friendly and as recent settler in Pattaya may have some leads for you.  

JD100 and I have already met several times.  JD wrote in this forum back in December/January that he was moving from Argentina to Pattaya and solicited to meet other expats.  I responded to that request.

I have introduced JD to the bar that I hang out the most in at the Jomtien Supertown Complex and he seems to like it.  I also took JD to see the M2M show and we had a great time.  I also asked JD to accompany me at the Pattaya Community Pride event that took place on 8 June 2024.

Unfortunately, in this area of making friends with the local expat community - I was not successful and I actually gave up last year.  I now have more than enough Thai friends to keep me busy and I am happy with that outcome.  My experience with the local expat community is that they are very reserved and guarded and ironically I see that I have become that way as well with other expats - except for JD 😘

I cannot explain this phenomena.  I note that in the heterosexual community that Pattaya is very good at getting that community organized with ""welcome to Pattaya" events that are held weekly so that the new heterosexuals can meet each other and integrate into the larger Pattaya heterosexual community.

I see that in the Pattaya gay world that this is non-existent.  I do not know if it has always been this way and I do not know why it is like this?

Anyone know ?

[kokopelli3]

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 

I cannot explain this phenomena.  I note that in the heterosexual community that Pattaya is very good at getting that community organized with ""welcome to Pattaya" events that are held weekly so that the new heterosexuals can meet each other and integrate into the larger Pattaya heterosexual community.

I see that in the Pattaya gay world that this is non-existent.  I do not know if it has always been this way and I do not know why it is like this?

Anyone know ?

It was always not that way!  Some years ago one or two guys would organize a get together to which any and all were invited and, sometimes drinks were free to one and all. But as time went on this dwindled away with the diminishing  gay  scene. Even more recently gay bar owners sponsored a party night with free food for anyone and some still do. But, no doubt, it is increasing difficult to break into the social network. 

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Unfortunately, in this area of making friends with the local expat community - I was not successful and I actually gave up last year.   My experience with the local expat community is that they are very reserved and guarded

I cannot explain this phenomena. 

Anyone know ?

perhaps too may are subscribing to theory verbalized below?

On 6/16/2024 at 9:25 AM, gayinpattaya said:

Be careful who you talk to and what you share with people in these areas. Take what your told with a grain of salt, and keep the default position that most people are lying through their teeth or thinking of a way to take advantage of you. 
 

 

[Olddaddy]

6 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

JD100 and I have already met several times.  JD wrote in this forum back in December/January that he was moving from Argentina to Pattaya and solicited to meet other expats.  I responded to that request.

I have introduced JD to the bar that I hang out the most in at the Jomtien Supertown Complex and he seems to like it.  I also took JD to see the M2M show and we had a great time.  I also asked JD to accompany me at the Pattaya Community Pride event that took place on 8 June 2024.

Unfortunately, in this area of making friends with the local expat community - I was not successful and I actually gave up last year.  I now have more than enough Thai friends to keep me busy and I am happy with that outcome.  My experience with the local expat community is that they are very reserved and guarded and ironically I see that I have become that way as well with other expats - except for JD 😘

I cannot explain this phenomena.  I note that in the heterosexual community that Pattaya is very good at getting that community organized with ""welcome to Pattaya" events that are held weekly so that the new heterosexuals can meet each other and integrate into the larger Pattaya heterosexual community.

I see that in the Pattaya gay world that this is non-existent.  I do not know if it has always been this way and I do not know why it is like this?

Anyone know ?

Bkkmf , interesting points thanks for bringing this up

May I ask you and  anyone else a few questions 

Is it this "generation" of Gay farangs who are reserved /keep to themselves or they more the older ones?

I'm asking that because I'm wondering what the next generation will be like ,say fast forward 10-15 years will we be more "friendly" or more into our iPhones etc , unsociable

I found the younger gay farangs more talkative than the snarly old ones , I met a few young Singaporean guys in Pattaya visiting 

The next question,are Bangkok Gay farangs more friendly, to me spending a few nights in Bangkok I made more friends in 3 nights than I did it in years of going to pattaya!!😆

I still have many phone numbers.

Thirdly , nowadays you can be gay and mix with the Pattaya straight communi,

I do and you can be accepted if you can joke and have a thick skin to their joking around 

So if your playing pool up at soi Bukhao in a "rough" bar say the Aussie bar  and people know your gay then joke with them.

Sadly though ,I too found the same as you in the Pattaya gay community 

 

 

[reader]

I’m not a Pattaya visitor but have read consistently on the forums about the shrinking expat community there. Part of it is obviously by choice but the government must accept that its unpredictable—and often onerous—policies discourage rather than encourage foreigners to retire to Thailand. 

I was among those westerners who weighed the option for years. Just when I was giving it greater consideration, the emerging possibility of dual state taxation has pretty much sealed any hopes I was considering. I think I could manage the health care issue but not the taxation one. 

Even if authorities decided against the idea, I believe future administrations would go on to seek new revenue streams from retirees, introducing more uncertainty.

The logical—and economically proven—approach is to gain revenue from the spending of retirees on goods and services. It’s another altogether to try to wring the source dry before it can spend funds on those goods and services.

[JD100]

Guys, I really do appreciate all these 'enlightening' responses.  I too have recently reached out to the hetero x-pat community, and seem to be making a little headway in meeting people. 

I believe I must reach out to the gay Thai community to establish a social life, and this would be great.  Again, I'm still in the same bind:  I would love to meet gay Thais - but outside the gay bars!   So, any suggestions on meeting gay Thais outside the bars would be greatly appreciated!

If my efforts really fall short I might consider a move to Bangkok.  Life alone without real friends and buddies to hang with is miserable! 

[Keithambrose]

11 hours ago, reader said:

I’m not a Pattaya visitor but have read consistently on the forums about the shrinking expat community there. Part of it is obviously by choice but the government must accept that its unpredictable—and often onerous—policies discourage rather than encourage foreigners to retire to Thailand. 

I was among those westerners who weighed the option for years. Just when I was giving it greater consideration, the emerging possibility of dual state taxation has pretty much sealed any hopes I was considering. I think I could manage the health care issue but not the taxation one. 

Even if authorities decided against the idea, I believe future administrations would go on to seek new revenue streams from retirees, introducing more uncertainty.

The logical—and economically proven—approach is to gain revenue from the spending of retirees on goods and services. It’s another altogether to try to wring the source dry before it can spend funds on those goods and services.

I'm not an expert but I though that if your 'home' country has a double taxation treaty with Thailand,  all is well? That was suggested in earlier posts. I have a friend in Bangkok who used to be a tax partner in an NY firm, and he has just bought a condo.  I can ask him. He has also acquired a good looking young  Burmese live in companion, though I don't think that affects the tax position!!

[Olddaddy]

3 hours ago, JD100 said:

Guys, I really do appreciate all these 'enlightening' responses.  I too have recently reached out to the hetero x-pat community, and seem to be making a little headway in meeting people. 

I believe I must reach out to the gay Thai community to establish a social life, and this would be great.  Again, I'm still in the same bind:  I would love to meet gay Thais - but outside the gay bars!   So, any suggestions on meeting gay Thais outside the bars would be greatly appreciated!

If my efforts really fall short I might consider a move to Bangkok.  Life alone without real friends and buddies to hang with is miserable! 

I love your posts

I guess just like me you will eventually how do I put it nicely "give up " ......and be happy with your own company.

Most times now as I get older I prefer to be by myself.

If your after a real boyfriend who will care for you in my opinion 3 hours away is the Philippines!! 🇵🇭

Yes Bangkok in my opinion is far better for socialising than Pattaya .

You get far more younger tourists travelling through , 

[bkkmfj2648]

On 6/18/2024 at 2:23 AM, Olddaddy said:

Is it this "generation" of Gay farangs who are reserved /keep to themselves or they more the older ones?

Unfortunately, Olddaddy - I cannot answer this question - as I only arrived 18 months prior from Europe as a new retiree.

So I cannot assess if the gay expat generation prior to the current gay expat retiree generation was more open to letting in "newbies" - new gay expat arrivals settling in the Pattaya area.

I can say that the forum members that come here on vacation and/or are seasonal part-time expats are very approachable and friendly.  I have made many friends with this category of expats - but they tend to be here during the "high-season" months (October through March).

[colmx]

Back in the early/mid 2000s when we had the Pattaya Gay Festival (PGF) there was usually a fundraising event at least once a month:

Gala dinners, Valentines parties, street parties, beach party, Mister PGF, Miss PGF, Mister Muscle, Gay Parade, charity auctions etc.

This would culminate with a week of events around world AIDs day in early December

Most of these events were fundraisers, so represented a great way to mix with other like minded gay farang, unfortunately these days its every man for himself and the PGF is long gone - but thankfully Dr. Phillipe and HEARTT 2000 are still around saving countless boys lives

Image below is from the Wayback Machine  https://web.archive.org/web/20040202183017/http://www.pattayagayfestival.com/about_us.php

 

[Marc308]

On 6/17/2024 at 3:03 AM, bkkmfj2648 said:

...Unfortunately, in this area of making friends with the local expat community - I was not successful and I actually gave up last year...I cannot explain this phenomena...

Gosh MFJ if someone as nice and kind as you cannot explain this phenomenon, then the situation cannot be explained. There is (seemingly) a distrust of "outsiders" and  paranoia about putting a moat around their world: "Will he steal my bf?" "Will he tempt away my best boy?" "Will he disrupt my routine?"

We can either complain about this situation, or we can do something about it. I am glad to see some members of this board getting together (MFJ and Vinapu, I salute you!)

Perhaps we need to have a (better) way of signaling our openness to meeting up? Alas sites as this were designed to being "discreet" and slightly mysterious which makes making a friendship connection all that more challenging.

So here is my outreach: My BH and I (both "of a certain age", read "old"!) are going from BKK to VN (Saigon) for a week or so in early August. We plan to stay mostly in HCMC but plan to take the train up to Nha Trang for a few days as well. We've been to VN each year now for the past 3 years so we are pretty comfortable there. We'd be happy for a single person (or another couple) join us, especially someone who has wanted to go there but, for whatever reason, hasn't gone yet. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss this, or would like to meet up otherwise in Pattaya or Bangkok during the months of July and August for dinner (Cafe des Amis?, Yupins?, Beirut (Silom), Shahrazad (Sukhimvit) or ...?) or just socializing.