Vinapu's Boot Camp - short trip of may 2024

[vinapu]

 Tittle is misleading  but was given to this trip by our member bkkmfj who accompanied me  to Bangkok during this short, 2 days in Pattaya and 6 in Bangkok trip to Thailand  last month. I think only terrorizing part were 3 hotel changes three days in row but I booked those before he decided to join in and to sweeten whole thing , all were walking distance from each other.

Day 1

This time I arrived by KLM from Amsterdam and arrival time was great , at 9.30 in the morning.

There was no line up to immigration at all, I just walked in to get stamped and had even option of choosing one of three officers. No waiting for luggage as I was with carry on only. Buying SIM card took few minutes and I found myself with almost 2 hours to kill before my Jomtien bus departure scheduled at noon.

This trip I decided to try something new for me i.e. going to Pattaya straight from airport. With excess time  I went to train station to exchange  some money, then ate something in coupon restaurant by gate 8 and went to the booth to exchange my bus reservation for an actual ticked as instructed when booked on website.

I got moment of enlightenment since it was 10.45 and asked if I can get  seat on 11.00 am bus. Luckily , there was seat but I was charged extra 50 baht for changing reservation.

 Around 1 pm I was already marching to Agate hotel in Jomtien Complex where room was already waiting for me. After desoiling    I went to 7/11 across the street for some goodies and decided to see N, my semi regular there at his massage place nearby.

 No sign of him, as I learned later he went to see his folks at home for few days but consolation was at hand at the same shop. T, whom I never got pleasure with before but got good feedback about from one of our members was at hand so of we went for 1.5 hr session, 400+1200 tip. I was happy to discover that  recommendation was very accurate. Got his Line with intention of asking him for long time in case none of guys I was hoping to see at Dreamboys would not be available. Either tonight or tomorrow.

 It was darkening when I took songtaew to Boyztown where I had a dinner is one of Indian restaurants there. Chicken with cashews there had some distinctive taste   likely due to use some Indian spices but it was great tasting anyways.

 Then to Copa to claim my room. As advised in some thread in spring , in Pattaya to avoid travelling between Jomtien and Boyztown  I often rent cheap 2nd room at either end. Handy just in case either boy or myself doesn’t feel like traveling in the middle of the night.

  As mentioned above I hoped to see #36 and #37 at Dreamboys. #36 was my outstanding  companion when I was there in January. I did not have pleasure with #37 then   but saw him in the bar waiting for his customer and he was extremely handsome HUNK. On top of that I got recommendation from trusted  member who had better luck and engaged him at Christmas time.

 After obtaining key I parked myself with beer on Copa’s terrace where shortly bkkmfj joined me for a chat and ironing our trip to Bangkok after tomorrow. We both noticed very attractive tattooed massage freelancer  offering his services in the soi while sitting on his motorbike.

 At  10pm we went to Dreamboys , me full of hope and excited with anticipation but as soon as we sat down it  was explained to me that neither boys I planned to see is no longer there.

 So much about dreaming about boys at home, first day and already 3 boys from the list MIA.

Disappointed , after we emptied our drinks I suggested checking show at Xboys and it was great idea as show was very progressive with, ahem, some risky numbers. A , veteran there recognized me  but still smarting after Dreamboys fiasco I was in no mood to take him with me tonight although he is worth every penny he may ask for. Great body and personality as well as very qualified to participate in big c…k show.

We returned to Jomtien complex where I have some hope, guy I saw on Grinder, hunk who likes kissing by his own admission on the profile. Bkkmfj knew who I’m talking about and even knew bar he is usually sitting but at that time of night he was gone. Another disappointment.

 But wait, I still have Line of T, the masseur and it was time when his shift should be over so I lined him but answer was “cannot tonight , can tomorrow “ . Ouch. So I gave up hope of having somebody tonight and went to 7/11 to eat problem out with some sandwich. Then I got stubborn and while munching outside hotel I fired up Grindr and found somebody I liked.

 “ I sleep with you if you give me money “ was the answer to obvious question. How much ? 1500. Waiting for you said I. In 10 minutes he showed up. Not looking exactly as in profile with face less cute but built more substantial than I anticipated.  So off we went to my room to check recent acquisition to my and his stamp collections. And it’s how day 1 was over.

[jason1975]

Finally we get to read your trip report!

[vinapu]

43 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Finally we get to read your trip report!

my apologies to those who were waiting. I usually table trip report after returning home and that Thai trip was part of bigger tour from which I returned home  only week ago 

[bkkmfj2648]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Tittle is misleading  but was given to this trip by our member bkkmfj who accompanied me  to Bangkok

Title was not misleading for me - as it was truly a Boot Camp experience for me.

The "training" and information sharing that you gave me in BKK is invaluable.

Thanks again Vinapu - I look forward to the next segments of your/our trip - as I love reliving it.

[18past19]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

and that Thai trip was part of bigger tour from which I returned home  only week ago 

hope that you were luckier this time on arrival home. at least it couldnt be your fridge this time. 

[vinapu]

9 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Title was not misleading for me - as it was truly a Boot Camp experience for me.

The "training" and information sharing that you gave me in BKK is invaluable.

Thanks again Vinapu - I look forward to the next segments of your/our trip - as I love reliving it.

I'm glad you liked  our trip as much as I did, sorry for dragging you through all those hotels

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, 18past19 said:

hope that you were luckier this time on arrival home. at least it couldnt be your fridge this time. 

he, he, no , no nasty surprises this time ( for those uninitiated- after returning from Thailand in January  I was greeted by broken fridge with associated nasty aromas)

[vinapu]

Day 2

 Turned out not a bad meeting. He was not in rush in the morning which I like and was clearly happy with his tip and immediately asked about repeat tonight. I was politely noncommitted , if only because T  suggested tonight he will be free to come.

He left at 9.30 , declined hotel breakfast invitation so I had it alone. It started raining but I promised bkkmfj I will buy tickets to Swampy  for noon tomorrow so off I went, it was just rain , not tropical deluge. There’s bank by bus stion so I went there to exchange 100 euro and  asked to get it all , 4400 in red notes to which they happily obliged.   I need something to stuff my multiple pockets I guess.

 When approaching hotel surprisingly T emerged from the alley on his way to the shop. I gave him 300 massage fee and asked him to come to my room in few minutes. We both were happy with such reunion. Of course I secured his presence for long time tonight. He promised to show up at end of his shift after closing the shop. Then jet lag reminded about it’s existence and I slept rest of day till dark.

Next step was another trip to Boyztown hoping that tattooed hunk , noticed last evening, will be offering his massages today as well.

As soon as I approached soi I saw him and noticed increase heart beat rate. 1.5 hr for 1500 was his charge and I motioned him to go. In short, one of best things I did this trip. Body was superb and so was massage. He also had well developed 6^th sense and noticed what I like and what I don’t. When time come to turn over I suggested that he must be tired so we better skip that part in exchange for not exactly hand holding session. Wow as they say. If I stay in Pattaya longer I guess I know what I will be spending my time with. Not only I liked him but also was impressed by personality , body and skills.

 After that memorable session I went to BoyzBoyzBoyz for a show welcomed my mamasan who recognized me from days of old and mentioned names of at least  two boys I offed from there in the past.  Scene was packed but with exception of two bare-chested, all boys were fully dressed, jeans and long sleeves. Bar was ¾ full , mostly with usual Chinese visitors and quite a few boys were sitting with girls and drinking. Another reminder that this is boy, not gay bar.

Art, one of bare chested  got a tip , another went to guy who tried to get my attention by smiling in my direction, both by way of patented Vinapu tuck. Show was similar to one I saw multiple times  but BBoys were impressive as always.

I was set for tonight but with off fee of 1000 baht even if I weren’t I’d not be in mood to off from there. While going to songtaew I noticed impressive hunk outside of ABomb. That would be worth 1000 baht off fee perhaps.

I arrived in Agate few minutes before agreed time  and T showed up in few minutes, suggested he will go and buy some beers and managed to do it somewhere even if it was past midnight deadline. I decided not to ask any questions where . We had great time together, so great that when I waked up it was 11.28 am.

 

[bkkmfj2648]

4 minutes ago, vinapu said:

so great that when I waked up it was 11.28 am

😈😮😡🤬🕰️

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

suggested he will go and buy some beers

Punctual and ready for beers, sounds good to me...

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

😈😮😡🤬🕰️

I know, sorry man!

[vinapu]

Day 3

There is old truth that more time we have , longer we do things. In those 32 minutes I managed to pack, pay T his tip, even take a shower and brush teeth, catch motorsai to bus station to arrive there 5 minutes before bus departure with bkkmfj puzzled what happened  with me being absent. But I made it !!!

 In Bangkok we took usual train plus BTS route to our 1^st hotel. Poor bkkmfj decided to follow my insane schedule and booked the same hotels I did for our Bangkok stay. This trip I wanted to check three hotels in the area, almost never mentioned  in reports.

Every trip I try , to boost my self esteem to book something with more stars and this time it was Pullman G, short walk from Silom/ Narathiwas intersection. This being high rise  we both got rooms with the view, mine was 15h floor facing sinful part of Silom, he was lavished with river view from 30^th floor.

 Hour or two after settling down I  got visit from ChristianPFC, we always meet at least once during my visits in Thailand. At one point I realized that my last meal was yesterday and it is already darkening today so I called bkkmfj to come down and three of us marched to world acclaimed, Foodland Patpong for a dinner. My first chicken with cashew in Bangkok this trip.

 Many times it was mentioned that while dining there it’s frequent to meet somebody known. This time it was Christian’s friend who was passing by and dropped for a chat seeing him through the window. After while we parted ways and bkkmfj and me went for grand tour of the area since he is not that familiar with Silom’s gay charms.

It was before Tawan reopened so I was curious if their boys will be camping on the corner and yes , at 8 pm two were there already. Talked briefly with one and he said  they had hope bar will reopen any day now which as we know happened.

Our grand tour was finalized at Dragon bar with drinks with tiny Lao who may be tiny but shy is not.  

 Securing promise of marriage from him we left him in his bar and continued to Jupiter. It’s true to form as usually Jupiter is my first bar I visit in Bangkok and that first visit is most often also last there on that trip. Not much changed. Deafening music, handsome but unsmiling boys who are most time in the shadows bar their three walkabouts. I don’t understand their format but it’s not my business so I hope they know what they are doing.

I was hoping to see at least one of their three boys but as it happened none of those was present. So in there days in Thailand I counted already 6 boys I wanted to see to no avail. Definitely before next trip I won’t be making any  plans of whom to see and will leave all to a chance.  I noticed a lot of new guys on the roster which is always good news. One most  eye catching got 100 baht tip during walkabout and during next one he  happened to stand on the scene right in front of me but did not even bother to look at me , fact which even bkkmfj noticed.

 This is how some customers guys are wasting money I thought about myself.  But there was bright moment. In front of us was sitting youngish Chinese. At one point mamasan brought to him boy whose face was familiar. Tam  !, guy I offed on my first night of the trip last July. He recognized me as well, smiled broadly and when they were leaving he whispered something to his customer who nod approvingly and came to me smiling to shake hands. This is what I call proper customer treatment ! So I left Jupiter empty handed but smiling.

 In the soi  bkkmfj announced desire to go home but I decided to check what is inside of Banana club hoping certain Vu Thy will be there but no, 7^th no show this trip. Few guys recognized me but unfortunately tragically underfed so not my type but there was one is the shadows who was trying to get eye contact, then smile, in short was expressing an interest I emptying at least one of my pocket  so , ever willing to help,  I motioned him over.

Brief inspection was fruitful so I asked about long time  which was approved immediately but that can’t be said about tip he quoted (5000 ) . Somehow I managed to bring it to a reasonable 3500 by simply quoting that and it took a while before it was approved . Soon of we went with no word of complaining about longish walk to my hotel.

 

[vinapu]

Day 4, part 1

He turned up to be early riser which suited me well as I like morning gymnastics and then we went for  a hotel provided breakfast. I was surprised how busy it was at 7 am  but no, I did not notice any traces of disapproving looks when we sat together.

  At 9 am I got call from bkkmfj  who claimed to be alone  so I went down to restaurant again to accompany him at his meal and trade latest gossips. We decided to try Jey Spa early afternoon so upon returning to the room I Lined Jey with our selection stressing that those are separate bookings in case they had other idea .

I was waiting a bit for response  in respect of bkkmfj selection due to boy not responding  but mamas an suspected that he simply is still  asleep.

Our next hotel is Heavens Boutique. Seems to be new venue with excellent location , right at the entrance to Silom Plaza by the escalator. For Arena or Best massage  lovers that is dream come true place. Rooms weren’t ready so we left our goods on reception and went to Jey Spa for our 2 pm appointments. While walking to soi 43 along Suhumvit I got Line message  “ your guys arrived already” . This is what we call proper customer care.

My choice while not exactly cheap at tip 2500 for 1.5 hr was worth every baht . Super built , not shy at all and well trained masseur. As a bonus very good English. And most important – as his colleague I hired in Boyztown 2 days ago,  clearly catching what his client likes and what  he doesn’t.

He gave me homework I was busy with thinking about for next 3 days : sensing I may be interested in all night cuddling he proposed it but quoted  very prohibitive price  of 10000. No,  I was not shocked seeing and feeling body  I had with me but it was well above my self imposed limit so all I could say was I will think about it (yes, I tried to bargain it down with counteroffer but he declined it  in most polite way but it was firm decline ).

 Next three day I was  pondering my choices but at end of it I kept to my limit and while happy with that , to this day I’m not 100% sure skipping it was the best I could do for myself. Call me crazy if you want but I know what I know. Returning to hotel I was in Cloud 8.5.

 Rooms were ready, bkkmfj was complaining about bit of strange smell from his bathroom but my room was trouble free. Furniture was new and whole place looked as recently opened , only inconvenience being that rooms are windowless. Only piece of thick glass somewhere allows to notice daylight so it’s not claustrophobic like some  rooms at Bally Silom are.

 

Since that hotel is unheralded here so far , below are some pictures.

 

to be continued tomorrow  but rest assured those beds were utilized 

 

[bkkmfj2648]

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

Poor bkkmfj decided to follow my insane schedule and booked the same hotels I did for our Bangkok stay.

It was good for me to learn the layout of that area of Bangkok - and thanks to us constantly moving from one hotel to another - I definitely obtained a feel for that area - especially when we finished at the Raya - as that was so easily located "almost" adjacent to Moonlight and the UNESCO Food Land.  Excellent location.

 

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

In the soi  bkkmfj announced desire to go home but I decided to check what is inside of Banana club

I should of went with you as I missed that opportunity to see the Banana club - but I was cooked and I needed to sleep for what was to cum on the following days :>)

 

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

Next three day I was  pondering my choices but at end of it I kept to my limit and while happy with that , to this day I’m not 100% sure skipping it was the best I could do for myself. Call me crazy if you want but I know what I know.

Vinapu, I understand you COMPLETELY - as it was hard for me to decide "yes" or "no" to bring that HOT Cambodian Khim guy to Pattaya - as his price was in the same range as your guy from Jey Spa.  Khim put it to me this way -->  I get 2 to 3 customers per day here in the ghetto of Sala Deng - so, if I go to Pattaya - I need to be compensated for what I give up in BKK.  That was very fair and in the end I agreed to bring him to Pattaya for 3 glorious full days - because I could see and appreciate his body both in the bedroom of my condo and ALSO on the lovely white sands blue turquoise waters of Koh Larn - and seeing his great muscle body on the beach was so much better than when I saw him naked in my Raya shower back in Bangkok.  Nature seems to bring out the Tarzan beauty of these studs.

[10tazione]

twin beds @ Heavens Boutique?

[10tazione]

@ 10.000 for LT.

I am always surprised how cheap LT compared to ST in Thailand is. 2000 ST, 3000 LT, thats just 50% more for the whole night. Is there any other place in the world where LT costs only 50% more than ST? 

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I should of went with you as I missed that opportunity to see the Banana club - but I was cooked and I needed to sleep for what was to cum on the following days :>)

 

you should and I have feeling you'd like it there but you youngsters those days  are lacking strength and don't take well sleep deprivation,  opposite to us seniors used to  sleep with open window  facing 16 lane highway😊

 

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Vinapu, I understand you COMPLETELY - as it was hard for me to decide "yes" or "no" to bring that HOT Cambodian Khim guy to Pattaya - as his price was in the same range as your guy from Jey Spa.  Khim put it to me this way -->  I get 2 to 3 customers per day here in the ghetto of Sala Deng - so, if I go to Pattaya - I need to be compensated for what I give up in BKK.

of all people you were actually privy to my hair splitting over the issue.

As for Khim, it looks that he , after collecting his fees from you disappeared from Grindr offerings at least temporarily.

In those matters I'm firm believer in market economy and both sides have full right to their own calculations based on own criteria. Sometimes we gamble, sometimes them. 

Whether story about 2-3 customers a day, in his case very plausible I agree, is true or fabricated , is also irrelevant. He put his price  , you accepted and it seems you are very happy with what you received in exchange. This is all what counts.

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, 10tazione said:

twin beds @ Heavens Boutique?

yes, it was cheapest option and since it was only one night I decided to gamble  that bed is wide enough for two. It worked as it will be reported very soon. 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, 10tazione said:

@ 10.000 for LT.

I am always surprised how cheap LT compared to ST in Thailand is. 2000 ST, 3000 LT, thats just 50% more for the whole night. Is there any other place in the world where LT costs only 50% more than ST? 

I don't know how it is in other countries but in Mexico when I asked it was about 3 times of ST fee. Also spoon once remarked that LT in extremely good value in Thailand compared to Malaysia.

Days of 3000 LT,  in Bangkok bars at least,   may be slowly coming to an end but still LT remains very good value.

And believe me , that 10000 while shocking in terms of number of zeros seemed in line with what guy in question had to offer. I was not shocked, only inclined to stick to my self imposed limit of half of that price. Glad I did but still not 100% sure.\

I have personal story of missed opportunity which haunts me for 30 years. While on Easter Island I saw beautiful carving and price quoted seemed for me prohibitive at that time so I gave up. After  thinking it over,  I decided to splurge and returned to the store to be greeted by seller with annunciation it was sold 2 hrs ago. I did not notice that saving thus obtained helped me much in life and now usually if I like something or somebody  I go for it.

[floridarob]

11 hours ago, 10tazione said:

@ 10.000 for LT.

I am always surprised how cheap LT compared to ST in Thailand is. 2000 ST, 3000 LT, thats just 50% more for the whole night. Is there any other place in the world where LT costs only 50% more than ST? 

Whereas I'm not a long time type, I like to sleep alone with both eyes closed....so I don't get the paying for someone to sleep, but if someone I trust and lives far from my hotel asks to stay, I tell them, don't worry, I won't charge you 1/2 of the hotel room......usually where we're staying is better than where they live, as they've told me many times.

Colombia has proven very fun and great sex, good restaurants...no off fees, overpriced drinks....did I mention great sex, and cheap flights from Mexico.

Guys charge from 100k-150k COP which is like 1000-1300 THB mostly, there's a few that charge/ask for 250k COP = 2200THB but they are model types or onlyfan guys.



Another thing I noticed is Vinapu and friends do quite a bit or marching 😛

[Olddaddy]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

you should and I have feeling you'd like it there but you youngsters those days  are lacking strength and don't take well sleep deprivation,  opposite to us seniors used to  sleep with open window  facing 16 lane highway😊

 

Must be noisy 😧 

I'm also right in the City but you get used to the sirens,loud drunks ,screaming ,noise beeping , 

I went to the country last week and I couldn't sleep 😪

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

Another thing I noticed is Vinapu and friends do quite a bit or marching 😛

it was supposed to be boot camp after all

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

Must be noisy 😧 

I'm also right in the City but you get used to the sirens,loud drunks ,screaming ,noise beeping , 

I went to the country last week and I couldn't sleep 😪

yes , so called deafening silence. I had the same when I was visiting my parents, it was so quiet that I could hear clock ticking and this was annoying 

[macaroni21]

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

I went to the country last week and I couldn't sleep 😪

Yes, I am a city boy too. I have had a similar experience when in some kind of rustic resort.  The night was too dark and the surroundings too quiet. It took me a long time to fall asleep.