jason1975 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/19/2024 at 6:01 PM, Keithambrose said: True, and I realise that there is even more choice if I go further afield, but soi6 is only 200yards from my usual hotel! I did have an excellent, unexpected good time at Greem Masage, last year, so to some extent these things are are a matter of chance. I always thought Green Massage was a legitimate no hanky panky massage place Quote
reader Posted May 25 Posted May 25 6 minutes ago, jason1975 said: I always thought Green Massage was a legitimate no hanky panky massage place It surely is but can’t say the same for its customers. 🙂 floridarob and 10tazione 2 Quote
Keithambrose Posted May 25 Posted May 25 5 hours ago, reader said: It surely is but can’t say the same for its customers. 🙂 I just chose a good looking masseur, asked for a full body massage, as you then get a room, and 20 mins later was fucking him! Just chance I suppose. I had another guy there, who was more than willing, kept in touch by txt. I have also had the legit foot massage. Quote
reader Posted May 25 Posted May 25 36 minutes ago, Keithambrose said: I just chose a good looking masseur, asked for a full body massage, as you then get a room, and 20 mins later was fucking him! Just chance I suppose. I had another guy there, who was more than willing, kept in touch by txt. I have also had the legit foot massage. In other words, you had the full Monty. Who would have thought such shenanigans take place at a massage shop on Surawong! Quote
10tazione Posted May 25 Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Just chance I suppose. Or your high precision gaydar pointed to the right guy... One guy there offered me a handjob. He is straight but mutual wanking is completely natural, he explained to me vinapu and reader 2 Quote
Keithambrose Posted May 25 Posted May 25 2 hours ago, reader said: In other words, you had the full Monty. Who would have thought such shenanigans take place at a massage shop on Surawong! Who indeed! Quote
Daddy415 Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 Definitely Green Massage can go spicy. Prime Massage? Not so much in my experience. But a great proper massage. Quote
floridarob Posted May 25 Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Daddy415 said: Definitely Green Massage can go spicy. Prime Massage? Not so much in my experience. But a great proper massage. At Green and when it was called Tarntawan in their current space I've had massage that included fucking and happy ending, even got jerked off under the blanket during a foot massage. Prime, my guy wasn't cute and was chunky and I couldn't get him to do anything..... Quote
vinapu Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On 5/18/2024 at 6:09 PM, Daddy415 said: they don't try to upsell you more services (more expensive oils, longer session) Nothing wrong with longer session Quote
vinapu Posted May 26 Posted May 26 19 hours ago, reader said: In other words, you had the full Monty. Who would have thought such shenanigans take place at a massage shop on Surawong! Me reader and Daddy415 2 Quote
jason1975 Posted May 26 Posted May 26 Out of curiosity, how much tip did the guys at Green massage ask for extra service? Quote
Daddy415 Posted May 26 Author Posted May 26 On 5/21/2024 at 3:31 AM, Patanawet said: So should every client that day expect him to climax with no extra remuneration? The point is I could care less if he climaxes, has a nice dinner, gets a present from his girlfriend... I am paying for his services for 90 minutes and that does not entail me paying him to get off. If he gets worked up and comes, good for him, but this is not a lover, this is an employee, and I don't care if he comes. I know, it sounds harsh, but I just thought it was comical. "You do you, honey, I'm good over here." Having said all of that, I totally respect if a client likes to see a climax and is willing to pay for that specific service, so for those who are into it I guess his offer makes sense. But for those not, to me it was a humorous moment.😆 splinter1949, Patanawet, Olddaddy and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted May 26 Posted May 26 10 hours ago, jason1975 said: Out of curiosity, how much tip did the guys at Green massage ask for extra service? In my case, we did not discuss money at all. In the end I gave him all the cash I had, which was 1,400. I was not expecting such full service, so did not have much cash on me. He seemed happy! vinapu 1 Quote
Daddy415 Posted May 27 Author Posted May 27 I think 1000 at Green would send them over the moon. The guys on Soi 6 seem to be pushing to 1500-2000 on my last trip... I still owe you all a trip report! I asked him for 500 if I made him come. Quote
vinapu Posted May 27 Posted May 27 6 hours ago, Daddy415 said: .I still owe you all a trip report! Sure. Thank you for bringing it out Quote
reader Posted May 28 Posted May 28 In shops with minimum tips (800-1,000 range), I rarely get asked how much for climax. It’s generally understood by all that the tip is inclusive. I typically give an extra few hundred baht for exceptional performance, especially if I intend to repeat with same guy. in shops with no minimum, I tip in the same range. vinapu, Daddy415 and kokopelli3 3 Quote
jason1975 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 On 5/27/2024 at 12:40 AM, Keithambrose said: In my case, we did not discuss money at all. In the end I gave him all the cash I had, which was 1,400. I was not expecting such full service, so did not have much cash on me. He seemed happy! Full service for 1400 baht - that's a good deal! Good idea to carry just enough cash. Quote
jason1975 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 8 hours ago, reader said: In shops with minimum tips (800-1,000 range), I rarely get asked how much for climax. It’s generally understood by all that the tip is inclusive. I typically give an extra few hundred baht for exceptional performance, especially if I intend to repeat with same guy. in shops with no minimum, I tip in the same range. If the shops at Saphan Kwai are only expecting 800 to 1000 baht, why do guys at Soi 6 expect much more? Quote
Daddy415 Posted May 28 Author Posted May 28 11 hours ago, reader said: In shops with minimum tips (800-1,000 range), I rarely get asked how much for climax. It’s generally understood by all that the tip is inclusive. I typically give an extra few hundred baht for exceptional performance, especially if I intend to repeat with same guy. in shops with no minimum, I tip in the same range. Exactly. I just carry 1000's and 100's and always tip minimum 1000 if special services (for me, not special for them haha) and throw in a few 100 more if they (a) don't discuss money during the massage and (b) provide above and beyond services (showering me, hug at end, generally happy environment.) I have been to the same masseur twice and had totally different experiences on multiple occasions. Sometimes the stars align and sometimes they don't... vinapu, splinter1949, floridarob and 1 other 4 Quote
reader Posted May 28 Posted May 28 3 hours ago, jason1975 said: If the shops at Saphan Kwai are only expecting 800 to 1000 baht, why do guys at Soi 6 expect much more? Two things come to mind. first, I think we want to pay them in line with service rendered. And in Soi 6, where the guys are in the shops for 10+ hours a day, it’s their full-time job. In S K, it’s on call. We get to know the guys on 6 on a more personal basis and more likely to tip well. Second, guys on 6 can’t count on any minimum and their tips vary widely. I was getting leg massage one night last week. There were two customers from China in the chairs on either side of me. I tipped 1000 while the two other customers tipped 100 and zero. Go figure. vinapu and Daddy415 2 Quote
macaroni21 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 3 hours ago, jason1975 said: If the shops at Saphan Kwai are only expecting 800 to 1000 baht, why do guys at Soi 6 expect much more? I think you mean if the boys at Saphan Khwai are only expecting... (not the shops). In addition to @reader's first point about the boys not having to spend the whole day waiting around, the shops in Saphan Khwai are largely aimed at the local market, so the boys working there adjust their expectations accordingly. I also have the feeling, based on my visits and attempts to book that the boys in Saphan Khwai get more business (two clients a day?) than the boys in Silom 6. @reader's second point is also germane. The Saphan Khwai shops position themselves more as knocking shops / brothels, and make clear a minimum tip that is for sex. The local market by and large understands what the business is about. The Silom 6 shops still largely pretend to be massage shops. They do not set minimum tips commensurate with sexual services, leaving the boys to negotiate their own tips and if the boys don't do that, there is a risk of undertipping by clueless foreigners. So, if the boys are going to negotiate, they might as well aim high. vinapu, splinter1949 and Daddy415 3 Quote
jason1975 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 18 minutes ago, macaroni21 said: So, if the boys are going to negotiate, they might as well aim high. And they really aim high! I got quoted 2000 baht (in middle of massage) but I bargained down. Daddy415, vinapu and floridarob 2 1 Quote
vinapu Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I'd say Saphan Kwai shops are aiming at lower , off the mill local market. There are Plsces like Jey Spa or Googuy which are also aiming at local market but higher end of if. Quote
Daddy415 Posted May 28 Author Posted May 28 If a masseur interrupts a massage to ask for a 2000 baht tip, not only is the price going down but so is my cock. Olddaddy, floridarob, vinapu and 1 other 2 2 Quote
macaroni21 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 5 hours ago, vinapu said: I'd say Saphan Kwai shops are aiming at lower , off the mill local market. There are Plsces like Jey Spa or Googuy which are also aiming at local market but higher end of if. Yes, you are right. The local market is also a wide price spectrum, at the upper end of which we call the "Hi-So" market. Clients there give 10,000-baht garlands to gogo boys and pay eye-watering prices for 60- or 90-minutes of fun. Quote
