Maple Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 JimmJimmyJames A Go Go Bar is now on the market. Located in Sunee Plaza in Pattaya, the bar is a double shop house on offer for $2 million Baht with a monthly rent of 10,000 Baht. For information and photos of the bar, go to: JIMMJIMMYJAMES BOY A GO GO THE BAR and click on "For sale by Owner". Quote
Guest Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 That place needs a serious change of management & some more mature staff too. No surprise they are trying to offload it. Quote
Guest Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 This is one of the best done and decorated bars in Sunee IMHO. He did a fantastic job with the remodel. Someone could really turn this place into a showplace! Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 This is one of the best done and decorated bars in Sunee IMHO. He did a fantastic job with the remodel. Someone could really turn this place into a showplace! I totally agree with you GT, this Club is so well Managed, the owner even know's if there has been a drink stolen or a bag of Ice to many ordered, to butter up some other member of staffs pocket, with his computerized tills, the Muzak must be the best of any GO Go apart from BBB. and with Big Screens around the club and a camera, to see the Boyz on stage back and front, it must be the best buy around at 2 Mill this is the place you should buy GT trouble is I hear the only reason he is selling is becuse the BIB dont want Farangs owning GO GO Bars and have made it quite clear, they will do all they can to disrupt any Farangs that do. Quote
Guest Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 this is the place you should buy GT trouble is I hear the only reason he is selling is becuse the BIB dont want Farangs owning GO GO Bars and have made it quite clear, they will do all they can to disrupt any Farangs that do. Honestly, I would buy in a heartbeat if I thought the issue with Farangs owning bars was going away soon. If I wanted to buy for the BF that would be a different story. However, I talked to him about this and he said he is not interested in this kind of business. Perhaps if it was on Walking Street and had Russian Ladies, he might be easily convinced. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Would anyone really want to take on the headaches of owning a bar in Pattaya? Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Would anyone really want to take on the headaches of owning a bar in Pattaya? Dont worry the last person who wants to or dreams of owning a Bar In Pattaya, has not arrived here yet, but they do all the time, watch this space.? Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 the bar is a double shop house on offer for $2 million Baht with a monthly rent of 10,000 Baht I am curious as to why there is a purchase price plus a monthly rental. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 The purchase price is for the business. Since the present owner does not own the building you would have to pay rent to the owner. Quote
Gaybutton Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Even if the bar is operating legitimately, how much needs to be paid each month to the various BIB . . . you know who I mean, the ones who are not corrupt . . . ? However, it's certainly a promising investment with regard to "location, location, location." Quote
Guest gwm4sian Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 trouble is I hear the only reason he is selling is becuse the BIB dont want Farangs owning GO GO Bars and have made it quite clear, they will do all they can to disrupt any Farangs that do. HeyGay, does that sentiment hold true even after the change in leadership at the top of the tree in Pattaya Police? Are they going after all gogo bar owners, gay and straight? What about beer bars? Are they safe? Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 HeyGay, does that sentiment hold true even after the change in leadership at the top of the tree in Pattaya Police? Are they going after all gogo bar owners, gay and straight? What about beer bars? Are they safe? Yes I can assure you it is very true, this bar is being sold because of the fact Go Gos owned by farangs, at the moment, are not a good idea. All other Host Bars are ok no problems there. I have this from Official Sources and those who have been affected by the new ruling, as always it will change, when the new Broom has been seen to be swept clean. Quote
Guest Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 The purchase price is for the business. Since the present owner does not own the building you would have to pay rent to the owner. An interesting concept. Presumably the 2 million baht buys maybe a few fixtures and fittings, plus the "goodwill" associated with the Jimmy Jimmy James brand name? Personally, I doubt the intangible assets would be worth anywhere near that much, so maybe it's mostly fixtures and fittings. Quote
Guest Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 An interesting concept. Presumably the 2 million baht buys maybe a few fixtures and fittings, plus the "goodwill" associated with the Jimmy Jimmy James brand name? Personally, I doubt the intangible assets would be worth anywhere near that much, so maybe it's mostly fixtures and fittings. Jimm did an amazing job on this place and spent a pretty penny for the lights, sounds, stage, etc. However, if you look into most places in Sunee, the average rate for one shop is about 700,000 baht and that tends to be a fixer upper. In this case, it is already fixed up and the 2M gets you the lease. I would think a fair price for the place. Quote
Guest luvthai Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 JJJ was at one time the best bar in pattaya and my favorite bar. I am not sure what happened but for some reason he was unable to bring new boys in and keep them. That being said I have to agree that it may not be the best time for a foreigner to buy a bar. I have a friend in Bangkok that is a Lt. with the tourist police and he confirmed to me that there is a movement to eliminate foreign ownership but For now tho the trouble with the red shirt movement is top priority. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I have a friend in Bangkok that is a Lt. with the tourist police and he confirmed to me that there is a movement to eliminate foreign ownership but For now tho the trouble with the red shirt movement is top priority. It is nice to know that you finally see something positive about "the red shirt movement". Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 It is nice to know that you finally see something positive about "the red shirt movement" I see you are still with us, but only replying to posts where you can make statements without coming up with solutions. I noted that you did not bother to come up with any response to my post of 17 March of the thread Red Shirts Rally - Day 5. To refresh your memory, this ended - So, Voldemar, why not give us your realistic, workable manifesto for reducing poverty in this country and putting an end to its endemic corruption? Quote
bkkguy Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I see you are still with us, but only replying to posts where you can make statements without coming up with solutions. if the only time voldemar or anyone else is allowed to post is to offer "realistic, workable" solutions to problems that have challenged the greatest minds of the world then traffic on this board will be greatly reduced! and perhaps "reducing poverty in this country and putting an end to its endemic corruption" is not the best or only solution for Thailand? but then I don't want to be tarred with voldemar's brush ... but I probably already have been even though making bold disruptive statements is often a useful tool in keeping discussions "interesting" bkkguy Quote
Guest voldemar Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I see you are still with us, but only replying to posts where you can make statements without coming up with solutions. I noted that you did not bother to come up with any response to my post of 17 March of the thread Red Shirts Rally - Day 5. To refresh your memory, this ended - Would you like to see my "Manifeso" right in the thread on JJJ Go Go Bar? By the way, my predictions on current events turned out to be 100 percent correct. If I put my Manifesto in writing, it will be deleted in a blink of Eye (and this time it will be justified). Quote
Gaybutton Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 By the way, my predictions on current events turned out to be 100 percent correct. Your predictions? "As for my predictions, I do not practice Vudu science or have a Cristal ball." That is what you wrote, isn't it? If I put my Manifesto in writing, it will be deleted in a blink of Eye (and this time it will be justified). As long as you don't violate the posting rules, why would we delete your 'manifesto'? After all, if the Unibomber can write a manifesto, why can't you? I'm sure yours would be at least equally coherent. You're actually allowed to express your own opinions here despite the fact that some accuse me of deleting posts that disagree with me. I suppose if a lie is repeated often enough people start to believe it. The only posts GT or I ever delete are posts that violate the rules or are just totally inappropriate and unacceptable. As long as you remain within the posting limitations, I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to post your opinion, your manifesto, or whatever you want to call it. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 if the only time voldemar or anyone else is allowed to post is to offer "realistic, workable" solutions to problems that have challenged the greatest minds of the world then traffic on this board will be greatly reduced! I don't see why! Further, you twist my request. Why should voldemar spend a considerable number of posts criticising others, suggesting that they have slanted ideas about the situation, pose serious questions, and then duck out of a response to a serious question I posed to him. Let's remember his post, which included the following - If you recognize the poverty, the suffering and unfairness, then you need to admit that Thaksin or no Thaksin, the fight will go on. The growing inequality between have and have nots in Thailand will make this fight more intense. Whether its last hurah (as you claim) of Thaksin or not is in some sense irrelevant. The political situation in Thailand will continue to deteriorate until steps are taken to resolve the problem of poverty I pretty much agreed. I also gave my outline of the problem and a way that has worked elsewhere to get rid of corruption, which I think we both believe to be at the root of many of the problems facing the country. I would like to hear voldemar's prescription. But perhaps it should be on the Red Shirts Rally - Day 5 thread where I originally asked him the question. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Your predictions? "As for my predictions, I do not practice Vudu science or have a Cristal ball." That is what you wrote, isn't it? Actually, that is what I wrote: I never said that everything is scheduled on March 14. The rally is scheduled on that day. But surely it does not stop there. As for my predictions, I do not practice Vudu science or have a Cristal ball. Suffices to say that the rally will be huge (and hence you will prove to be wrong to no surprise) and Reds will not try to seize the airport as your another local expert Fountain hall claims. In other words, I made three concrete predictions: 1. The events will not stop on March 14 2. The rally on March 14 will be huge 3. Reds will not try to seize the airport. In separate post I predicted grenade attacks as a second stage. Thus, I was 100 percent correct. Quote
Gaybutton Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Thus, I was 100 percent correct. Congratulations. Now, if nobody minds let's return to the subject of this thread. If anyone wants to continue this discussion with Voldemar, please start a new thread to do it. Quote
Guest simoncm Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Congratulations. Now, if nobody minds let's return to the subject of this thread. If anyone wants to continue this discussion with Voldemar, please start a new thread to do it. i hardly ever post anywhere but i must say "well said" people drifting off subject to air their pet grievances gets so boring Quote