vinapu Posted May 4 Posted May 4 8 hours ago, Patanawet said: In Boyztown, Copa. or Classrooms Patanawet and Aux1010 2 Quote
Boy69 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 On 4/30/2024 at 8:19 PM, reader said: You would be correct. Restrict my adventures geographically to Bangkok and Vietnam.🙂 +1 "For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing that they like." 🙂 The Pride of Miss Jean Brodie, 1969 Curious what horrified you about Bangkok? Pollution, traffic, crowds in the streets. In general I don't like mega cities I tend to feel stressed and lost. reader 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 On 5/4/2024 at 9:36 AM, Travellerdave said: as I feel more confortable in gay or gay friendly hotels, despite seldom having issues elsewhere. Yes I agree I prefer 'gay' hotelsI feel at home and avoiding uncomfortable stares from straight guests at non gay hotels . Neve had amy issue at any hotel in Thailand thogh. vinapu, Patanawet and Travellerdave 3 Quote
reader Posted May 7 Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, Boy69 said: Pollution, traffic, crowds in the streets. In general I don't like mega cities I tend to feel stressed and lost. Understand your dislikes but doesn't Pattaya have horrendous traffic and crowds (second only to Bangkok according to tourism report from government this week)? Quote
colmx Posted May 7 Posted May 7 On 4/28/2024 at 5:59 PM, vinapu said: so in short, if one can afford, rent for 1-3 nights cheapest rooms in both Ambiance or Copa AND Zing Resort or The Venue and you don't need to worry when you finish the night. 7/11 to buy tooth brush and Colgate are close by here and there. For 60 $ you may have freedom of choice and save money on night transport between two and as a bonus you can get extra drunk knowing bed is steps away. We did this during Songkran, rented our usual condo near Sinlapin Issan, but also booked a room in the agate for 7 nights, we could then choose where we would sleep depending on where the night took us. In the end, we only slept in Agate 1 of the 7 nights, but did use it plenty of times as a staging area for clean toilets, hot showers and wardrobe changes! On 5/3/2024 at 4:37 PM, brall3 said: Has anyone stayed at the Holiday Inn Express which is not that far from Boystown? If so, do they allow visitors to the room? I would not really consider the HI Express on Soi Buakow to be near BT, it is in the middle of the straight district and the roads from there (Soi 15 or the one that is like the surface of the moon) are not pedestrian friendly so i would recommend finding somewhere else to stay Patanawet and vinapu 2 Quote
Boy69 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 12 hours ago, reader said: Understand your dislikes but doesn't Pattaya have horrendous traffic and crowds (second only to Bangkok according to tourism report from government this week)? Not at 1999 at my first visit. Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 14 hours ago, reader said: Understand your dislikes but doesn't Pattaya have horrendous traffic and crowds (second only to Bangkok according to tourism report from government this week)? Very correct what you wrote. I try to only venture into Pattaya city from Jomtien 1 time per week - as that never ending traffic is so frustrating. And most of it is because of the NEVER ending road construction on roads that have already completed their road works months earlier. reader 1 Quote
Londoner Posted May 8 Posted May 8 That was certainly true a year ago....and those roadworks had begun before the Covid period. I'm not saying all is well but our March stay was much better than our November one in this respect, particularly in Second Road. Twenty-five minutes as opposed to forty from the JC to Central in the early evening. Quote
colmx Posted May 8 Posted May 8 4 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said: I try to only venture into Pattaya city from Jomtien 1 time per week - as that never ending traffic is so frustrating Pattaya traffic is only a problem if you are on a songtaew, it turns left at the Bali Hai Overpass and gets stuck in traffic at the lead up to marine hotel If you are in a bolt tell them to turn right at the overpass and then get to Pattaya Tai by Sophon market intersection or through soi yensabai, soi day night or soi Holywood. Takes no more than 10 mins Jomtien to Boystown Marc in Calif, vinapu and JimmyJoe 2 1 Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 28 minutes ago, colmx said: Pattaya traffic is only a problem if you are on a songtaew, it turns left at the Bali Hai Overpass and gets stuck in traffic at the lead up to marine hotel I had to go into Pattaya city from Jomtien twice last week due to birthday celebration activities. One time by songtaew (bahtbus) and as you wrote the traffic was jammed all the way up to where the songtaew starts for the return trip back to Jomtien (near the temple) - but now they are restricting 2nd road in many places from Boyztown for minor construction sites (we counted 6 of them) that restrict the 3 lane traffic down to 1 lane. So, you get the DOUBLE nightmare of part 1 (normal) + part 2 (new due to redoing already completed construction). For the 2nd trip we went by car and did as you said to turn right - so we avoided the above mentioned part 1 (normal) delay - but because we were going to a birthday dinner in Wongamat - we encountered all of the part 2 redoings of already completed construction traffic jams.... Does the mayor of Pattaya city every have to drive around in this traffic nightmare? vinapu 1 Quote
colmx Posted May 8 Posted May 8 4 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said: we were going to a birthday dinner in Wongamat Your driver should have taken a right at the overpass intersection and taken Third road all the way to Naklua, driving the same route the pattaya mayor does (his offices are next to Terminal 21) Marc in Calif 1 Quote
12is12 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 How do non thai speakers convey such directions? I didnt get the impression that drivers r either patient or communicative... JimmyJoe and vinapu 2 Quote
colmx Posted May 11 Posted May 11 On 5/8/2024 at 12:07 PM, 12is12 said: How do non thai speakers convey such directions? I didnt get the impression that drivers r either patient or communicative... I'm sure others could do it more elegantly, but assuming i was going from Jomtien to BT and was in the front seat i would indicate using my hand showing a right turn and saying "Bpai Tlad Sophon" followed by a left hand movement stating Pattaya Tai / Wat Chai. I think most would get it (assuming the driver actually knows pattaya in the first place!) Quote
Olddaddy Posted May 11 Posted May 11 I find being loud & abrupt works. Use your hands as you talk , loudly saying " which you go ????? That way or that way !!! Marc in Calif 1 Quote
Popular Post thaiophilus Posted May 11 Popular Post Posted May 11 Or you could just learn four words: "left" (ซ้าย "sai") "right" (ขวา "khwa") "straight ahead" (ตรงไป "trong pai") JimmyJoe, reader, floridarob and 2 others 5 Quote
Keithambrose Posted May 12 Posted May 12 16 hours ago, Olddaddy said: I find being loud & abrupt works. Use your hands as you talk , loudly saying " which you go ????? That way or that way !!! The old British way, just talk loudly to foreigners! Londoner and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 hours ago, Keithambrose said: The old British way, just talk loudly to foreigners! Or you could use the Australian way Quote
Patanawet Posted May 15 Posted May 15 On 5/12/2024 at 12:55 PM, Keithambrose said: The old British way, just talk loudly to foreigners! Or poke them with your silver tipped cane. Quote
Londoner Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Ah yes, the Colonial Way. It used to work decades ago in some parts of the world but Thailand was never colonised and many falang visitors have found out to their cost that Thais don't like being patronised or bullied. On the contrary, they feel that their ancient civilisation and their spiritual beliefs are of far more intrinsic worth than ours. Ruthrieston and vinapu 2 Quote
Keithambrose Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Londoner said: Ah yes, the Colonial Way. It used to work decades ago in some parts of the world but Thailand was never colonised and many falang visitors have found out to their cost that Thais don't like being patronised or bullied. On the contrary, they feel that their ancient civilisation and their spiritual beliefs are of far more intrinsic worth than ours. Bit like the Japanese. It was Rama 5 who staved off the British and the French. Cleverly playing one off against another. He had to give up some provinces in the South to the UK, but kept country independent. Also sent his sons to Eton. There is a great picture, in the Authors' lounge in the Oriental, of him, in full morning dress, looking over a serried rank of his sons, at least 10, all in morning dress, in descending order of height! He was ahead of his time. Ruthrieston, vinapu and Londoner 3 Quote
vinapu Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Keithambrose said: It was Rama 5 ......He was ahead of his time. Luckily for Thailand Quote
MrBill Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I used to stay at one of the Boyztown hotels. For my last 3 trips to Pattaya, I have stayed at the Avani Resort Pattaya. It's on 2nd Rd a few block's walk to Boyztown. It is a 4-5 star property. No problem bringing guests. I typically pay in the $90-95 USD range including a fabulous buffet breakfast for 2. Easy to get to Jomtien via tuk tuk. If you decide to stay there, I'd recommend joining their frequent guest program, GHA Discovery I think it is. I ended up getting 20% off food & beverage with the free membership. I was there twice last week for stays of 3 days each. Quote
Marc in Calif Posted May 15 Posted May 15 On 5/11/2024 at 6:10 AM, Olddaddy said: I find being loud & abrupt works. Use your hands as you talk , loudly saying " which you go ????? Patronizing much? You're one of those "ugly" foreigners. But am I surprised? No. Quote
kokopelli3 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 7 hours ago, MrBill said: I used to stay at one of the Boyztown hotels. For my last 3 trips to Pattaya, I have stayed at the Avani Resort Pattaya. It's on 2nd Rd a few block's walk to Boyztown. It is a 4-5 star property. No problem bringing guests. I typically pay in the $90-95 USD range including a fabulous buffet breakfast for 2. Easy to get to Jomtien via tuk tuk. I believe you mean Baht Bus ( Pickup truck bus, 10 Baht) as I have not seen any tuk tuk (3 wheeled transport) in Pattaya. Also can use a motorbike taxi 80/ 100 Baht or a Bolt car 100+ Baht or Taxi. vinapu 1 Quote