TotallyOz Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Anyone have anyone that has attended or do you know anyone who have any suggestions about: Laemchabang School of Technology www.lts.ac.th/ School of Technology Sriracha Donmaung Technical College DonmuangTech. Ramkhamhaeng University Philosophy Rajamangala University of Technology Krungthep Rajamangala University of Technology Krungthep Yes, boy special is about to go to University. He is excited. I am excited. He has a 7 year old son so he wants to stay close to his home. I understand that. So, he is looking in Bangkok, Chomburi area. I am open to the above as they were his selection. I am also open to ANY other suggestions that you may have. Thanks! Quote
pong Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 that should be Don MUAng=near the old airport. You do not pose a clear question. You give the names of some 3d level ''schools'' that most out of Thaild would never dream of naming it ''uni''-this is about anything with technical in it. RamKHg is quite a different thing from that-the major (in size, certainly not in quality) uni in BKK-with the usual topics any world-uni would offer. The last few years it also has a sizeable proportion of foreign students-doing a half year semester. Rajamangala is an enormous country-wide chain of technical colleges (where you go to learn for electrician, car repairman and the like), I think in BKk there must be at least 20+ of them-spread out all over town. Their students mainly seem to engage in brawls and fights with the competition=KIng Mongkut same-same. But in all fairness, they also have some higher-graded colleges, aimed at hgher level and thus better paying jobs. Travelling on a daily base to attend courses over 150 km (that would easily cover BKk-Cholburi)-and with most ''uni's'' situated quite far away from main roads does not seem any practicle to me. So in this point; please also be a little more specific=mainly if that would mean BKK-big city or the Cholburi/Pattaya chiangwat. As for the study-specify what direction, what job is aimed for etc. Quote
Guest Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks Pong. The list was from him and the schools I have not heard of. He is also interested in Assumption University. AU Admissions I also suggested he look at Asian University. He wants to be either a computer programmer or engineer. But, he is good with his hands and mechanics and so I always told him that would be fine too. I am not pushing him into any school or any direction. But, I would like to see him spend a few years at a good school so he can see if he likes it. It sounds like he has chosen some very easy schools. That does not surprise me. He would commute part time and I would get him an apartment for when he needs to stay there if a long way from his home. Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks Pong. The list was from him and the schools I have not heard of. He is also interested in Assumption University. Everything I've heard about Assumption tells me that's the best university in Thailand. Quote
Guest travelerjim Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 He has a 7 year old son so he wants to stay close to his home. I understand that. So, he is looking in Bangkok, Chomburi area. I am also open to ANY other suggestions that you may have. Thanks! Hi GT... I have been down that path twice in the past 6+ years.. My bf graduated from Sripatum Uni in Chonburi.. and second Uni student I sponsored as well has now graduated from Sripatum too. I highly recommend SRIPATUM UNIVERSITY, CHONBURI CAMPUS... North end of Chonburi,West side on Sukhumvit..near Amata Industrial Park and the entrance/exit to Bangkok-Chonburi Tollway. Sripatum is a fine "open" university..which means if he has high school certificate and 2.0+ GPA..they will admit..and then "Up to Him" to get 2.0 GPA grades to stay in in uni and graduate. I wanted my bf to be in a Uni where he was recognized as a student and not a number...and Sripatum Chonbui was best for him because of its size... about 4,000 students vs their Bangkok Campus has 25,000+ . Full facilites.. and modern classrooms and new gymnasium, multi-story classroom addition and the major high rise uni building..among others. Plenty of parking on Campus and good security. Costs per semester are 25,000 THB first semester..and about 20 - 22,000 THB each added semester..totals about 170,000 THB for 4 years Bachelor Degree. They have an several excellent degree programs... Both of my Uni grads earned their Bachelors Degree in Business English Communication. One is now teaching English in government school in Sattahip and my bf is a MBA student at Burapha University, BangSaen... also close to Chonburi. PM me and I will be pleased to assist with any questions... and arrange for a tour and meeting with Sripatum Uni Staff. My bf and I own a townhouse next door to Sripatun Uni.. a 5-7 minute walk from house to classroom...and with Sukhumvit Rd fronting both the Uni and our housing..easy access by bus to Bangkok or Pattaya. There are some nice homes avalable for rent/sale in California Grand View Estates...the village next door to Sripatum Uni, Chonburi..if you choose to lease and share with him...or some good rooms in townhouses for students to rent reasonable...or buy a Townhouse for 800,000 to 1 Mil THB and have him live there while renting out 2 of the 3 Townhouse Bedrooms to other uni students...that is what my bf and I did...and we still reside there. NOW is the time to make a choice...as the next semester at Sripatum will start in early June..and might I suggest he attend their Summer Session... at Sripatum Uni...??? I believe the dates are March/April..about two months for 2 first year courses..that way he gets into the "swing" of things before the full first semester begins in June. Also..helps you and him both decide IF he really can cut the mustard at the uni before full term starts... can sign up for Summer Session for about 5,000 THB and pay remainder 20,000 THB for first full semester in June... and helps prepare him for the first full term of study.. a good idea if he has been out of school for several years. If he decides he does not want to continue... after Summer Session..you have not lost an added 20,000 THB.. Again..I have been down this path several times... believe me when I say Sripatum Uni, Chonburi is the place for him. Good Luck! tj Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 I can help with you this as I've counselled and placed dozens of Thai students at the local colleges and universities. I myself am an alumnus of the Thai and SE Asian studies programme at Chulalongkorn and the women's studies programme at Chiang Mai University. I frequently participate in and have presented papers at seminars for the advancement of education among the rural poor. Let's say an all expenses paid trip to Prague escorted by a Bel Ami star in return for my services? Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Laemchabang School of Technology www.lts.ac.th/ School of Technology Sriracha Donmaung Technical College DonmuangTech. These are technical - vocational schools would be more apt - colleges offering courses in the various trades (air-con repair, electrical wiring, plumbing, etc). They award certificates and diplomas. Reputations vary but generally useful if you want a job as a tradey as they offer hands-on, skills-oriented training. The problem I often hear about them is discipline. The kids can be a bit on the wild side - yaa baa, motorcycle thefts, gangsterism, etc. But if he's lived in Pattaya then these schools would be Disneyland by comparison. Mostly randy male students so less risk of your straight boyfriend running off with a short skirt. Ramkhamhaeng University Philosophy A popular open university because of lax entry and attendance requirements. One of Thailand's biggest unis. They award diplomas and degrees. In my opinion, the most diverse, and therefore interesting, in terms of student population - from fresh school leavers to whores to policemen approaching retirement. Known for its law course - PM Opposite did his law degree here. Not Thailand's best law school though - that honour belongs to Thammasat. Because attendance in most courses is not compulsory, a lot of self-discipline is required in order to finish your degree. Even though Ram is an open uni, it does not have a reputation as a degree mill - you need to study for and pass your exams at each stage before you can proceed to the next one. Understandably, graduation rates are quite low as many students work full time as well. Fees are dirt cheap. Many students from the south study at Ram because of discrimination at the more conventional "sandstone" state unis. Lots of eye candy if you like them tall, dark and handsome. Rajamangala University of Technology Krungthep Ratchamongkon, in Thai. Generally very good reputation nationwide. Of course, some campuses are better than others. The one in Chiang Mai is often regarded on a par with Chiang Mai university in terms of academic rigour and standard. They offer diplomas and degrees in engineering (their forte), business studies, design, accountancy (also quite strong at Ratchamongkon). Not easy to get into but again this depends on campus. It's hard to make suggestions without knowing your friend's interests and academic background. Does he want to do this purely for motivational reasons (ie further his studies to expand his knowledge and widen his outlook) or instrumental reasons (to get a specific job) or simply to please you? Sorry, but I'm trained to ask hard questions as our resources are limited (which might not be the case with you). Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Let's say an all expenses paid trip to Prague escorted by a Bel Ami star in return for my services? You may have to settle for a trip to Sattahip and a bag of fried grasshoppers . . . Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 He is also interested in Assumption University. AU Admissions I also suggested he look at Asian University. He wants to be either a computer programmer or engineer. But, he is good with his hands and mechanics and so I always told him that would be fine too. I am not pushing him into any school or any direction. But, I would like to see him spend a few years at a good school so he can see if he likes it. It sounds like he has chosen some very easy schools. That does not surprise me. I missed this part. Assumption University (formerly known as ABAC) is supposedly one of the better private universities. Fees are relatively high. Many rich but not-too-bright kids study here. Quite a few TV and movie stars roam the campus in their Beamers. The university is quite strong in business studies; law is not bad but it's not known for much anything else. Great social life if you can keep up. Asian University is a good private? (autonomous perhaps because I know they receive government funding) school. Many competent lecturers from SE Asia and India teach there and the usual ne'er-do-well farangs who can't get jobs at home. As far as I know, they only run international programmes which means you need to have a fairly high level of English in order to gain admission on top of your academic credentials. Not an easy school to get into. I'm not sure what you mean by a "good school". The good schools in Thailand are all state universities and they generally discriminate against mature-age entry or students who have not sat the all-important Uni Entrance Exams at the usual age of 18. The top multidisciplinary schools in Thailand are: Chulalongkorn Thammasat Mahidon Chiang Mai Khon Kaen Prince of Songkhla Top engineering school: Mongkut University of Technology, Lad Krabang campus Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 I'm not sure what you mean by a "good school". To me, a "good" school is the school in which the graduates are most sought-after by potential employers. On a practical level, I don't think much else is really important. Another school might have a better reputation or be more prestigious, but I think the bottom line is how marketable the student is upon graduation. GT says his boyfriend is interested in computer programming, engineering, and mechanics. I think what he ought to be investigating is not necessarily which school is "better" than another, but from which schools the graduates end up with the best careers in those fields. Quote
Guest frodo Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 My friend's bf is studying law at Burapha University in Bangsean, Chonburi. He seems happy with it. http://www.buu.ac.th/webeng/information.html Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 To me, a "good" school is the school in which the graduates are most sought-after by potential employers. On a practical level, I don't think much else is really important. Another school might have a better reputation or be more prestigious, but I think the bottom line is how marketable the student is upon graduation. I agree with that to a certain extent and broadly speaking, graduates from the top state schools do enjoy the highest employability rates. Those from sought after disciplines like engineering and the medical sciences are head hunted even before graduation. However, if you want to be really practical about it, a poor disadvantaged student from the countryside needs every little bit of edge he can get to buffer the prejudices he is bound to face in the job market and I say this from eight years of managing such students. In a culture that puts a premium on appearances, a qualification from a brand school definitely helps. Good grades are even better. So do contacts to get him that foot in the door (which you make by attending prestigious schools). The colour of his skin, how high the bridge of his nose is, the size of his nostrils (ie Isaan look or urbane Bangkok look), his accent, whether they can smell a farang in the background (ie ex sex worker - information that could potentially be used against him) are factors that perhaps hold a greater weight in his employability and career advancement than his academic quals. After all, it's a Thaiocracy, not a meritocracy. Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 However, if you want to be really practical about it, a poor disadvantaged student from the countryside needs every little bit of edge he can get Doesn't that go hand-in-hand with what I'm saying? You've listed several factors that are probably beyond his control, so it would seem to me the school for him to attend would be the school that offers him the best chance of employment. Of course there are no guarantees, but it seems to me the logical thing to do is to go where the odds are the most in his favor. Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Doesn't that go hand-in-hand with what I'm saying? You've listed several factors that are probably beyond his control, so it would seem to me the school for him to attend would be the school that offers him the best chance of employment. Of course there are no guarantees, but it seems to me the logical thing to do is to go where the odds are the most in his favor. I'm not disagreeing with you, and at the end of the day it's not about you, or me, but as I said one needs to see the big picture in order to map out the best possible path for a Thai person in that position. While one wants to do the best for one's loved ones, one has to be realistic in one's goals and expectations - which was what I was trying to hint at and in line with your "odds in his favour" argument. In tune with this, prior academic history, capacity for hard work and motivation to succeed are other factors that need to be weighed in in addition to the ones I've already mentioned. It's much easier for me to do this I reckon because I have no emotional attachment to my kids other than the desire to see them succeed with the limited resources that they and the organisation I volunteer for have. Quote
Guest Astrrro Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Ramkhamhaeng University Philosophy We were just talking about schools the other night. A ladyboy friend wants to go to school and she's been checking them out. What she likes about Ramkhamhaeng is that she can dress as a lady and that's important to her. Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 A good University with a good reputation should be the number 1 priority for anyone proposing to spend several years studying. Quote
Guest Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Thank you all for your advice! I really appreciate it to all. I have been having long talks with the BF. He has been looking around and testing the campuses. I do appreciate all the wonderful suggestions and advice! Quote
Guest Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 My bf graduated from Sripatum Uni in Chonburi.. and second Uni student I sponsored as well has now graduated from Sripatum too. Thanks Jim. The BF and I spent several hours there today. He seemed to feel comfortable there. We got all the admissions information. I think they start on June 5. They said as long as he had all his paperwork to them by the day before, he was OK to go. He still has a lot to think about. On Monday we are going to Asia University and a few others. From then, he will have to time to soak all the info in. Thanks guys for your help in this. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 You really should push him to go to US for school. Quote
Guest Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 You really should push him to go to US for school. I had a party today (my birthday and the hotel management threw it for me) and the ladies there all asked if I could dump the BF and marry them and take them to USA for school. The BF just shys back. He is still keeping this as an option. Some of the school Maurice suggested I have also looked into. But, the really good places in Thailand that are public are not a possibility for him. I also didn't realize that Asian U was hard to get into. I'll find out more on Monday. Quote