Linking Immigration Computers

[Bob]

There's an article in the Pattaya Mail today that reads in part:

 

"... the Pattaya Immigration Office will take the lead in setting up a

[Guest]

I read that article as well and it did raise my eyebrows. I wonder how this will affect border runs for those that have warrants in other countries? I have seen many news reports about people being wanted back in their home country and they have lived legally for many years in LOS. I wonder how this will affect that?

[Bob]

I'm not sure how it will affect anything. But you would think that the immigration people (the people in charge of allowing strangers to enter your country and supposedly in charge of trying to protect Thailand from bad ones in the first place) just might want to know if somebody is charged (or convicted) of murder, bank robbery, rape of kids, terrorism, or whatever. Before now, apparently they didn't care to know (and likely still don't).

[Guest voldemar]

There's an article in the Pattaya Mail today that reads in part:

 

I've railed over the years about why Thai immigration computers weren't tied in with international criminal records

This is because Thailand is different from police state you came from. I presume that you enjoy other freedoms like hiring sex workers which is illegal and expensive in your native country. If not, I am sure you would prefer one of the American islands like Hawai where all immigration computers are linked much tighter but still miss Nigerian and other terrorists from time to time.

[Bob]

This is because Thailand is different from police state you came from.

 

As appears to be your modus operandi, your post makes no sense. You seem to be criticize any attempt by a country to intelligently screen its allowed visitors and, at the same time, slam those that try to do that for not being thorough enough.

 

Presuming you might want to substantively respond, do you even think it's a good idea for a country to attempt not allow in people convicted of certain crimes in their home country?

[Guest voldemar]

As appears to be your modus operandi, your post makes no sense. You seem to be criticize any attempt by a country to intelligently screen its allowed visitors and, at the same time, slam those that try to do that for not being thorough enough.

 

My post makes perfect sense. Your response does not. You came from police state and expect every other country to follow their practices.

You obviously think that intrusive practices by low level government employers who harass visitors and American citizens upon arrival, intrude their privacy and openly enjoy doing that is an "intelligent" screening. They spend so much resources on these 'intelligent" task and other idiotic screenings that when it comes to screening terrorists they are totally impotant.

As a loyal and brainwashed citizen of "island of freedom" you expect and insist that everybody else followed these practices. You obviously enjoy humongous presence of FBI in Pattaya. They really have nothing useful to do over there and would be much more helpful in places like Somali and Yemen. But then who would take up a Herculian task of "cleaning up" Sunee Plaza? It is,of course, much more pleasant to fight "the enemy"

in Pattaya then doing real and necessary job in terrorist pits.

[Bob]

You spent a lot of time not answering the question. So, I'll try one last time:

 

Do you think it's a good idea for a country to attempt to screen its visitors (meaning, at least in part, making a reasonable attempt to determine if they have significant criminal convictions in their home countries)?

 

 

[if you choose not to answer, at least save the rest of the board from hearing repetitious comments about what kind of a police state you think I'm from]

[Guest lvdkeyes]

I wonder what "non police state" Voldemar comes from.

[Guest voldemar]

You spent a lot of time not answering the question.

Yes, indeed, I have spent a lot of time discussing the issue.I will try once again.

At this point US is moral and financial bancrupt which loose any right to dictate other nations what they should and should not do. The remaining part of " American greatness"

is based on big printing machine in Washington D. C. and correspondingly overwhelming Military force. There is nothing else left.

As indoctrinated American who really has nothing to say and who happen to choose to live in another country , you still try to impose your own bancrupt standards on another nation and dictate what they should and should not do, what they should and should not screen, what kind of law they should have. You show disrespect to the people who are recognized leaders of the nation, prejudge Supreme court etc. In other words, you are typical "Ugly American" with fat wallet, little culture and with total mental inability to try to understand the world you are moving in. Yet, you like to debate, like to pass your judgement on everything and pretend that you guy in the know. Will never work for you.

I hope I finally answered your question.

[Gaybutton]

I hope I finally answered your question.

Well, I have a question for you - the same question lvdkeyes asked, but you didn't answer. What country do you come from?

 

Whether we terrible Americans live in Thailand or anywhere else, you've decided that should mean you get to stereotype all Americans and that should also mean we forfeit the right to discuss issues and seek changes we see as improvements. In case you haven't noticed, we Americans disagree with each other on these issues all the time. That negates your ideas about stereotypes.

 

I'm sure we're all very sorry that we weren't raised according to your standards. Your idea of disrespect differs from mine, that's for sure. I find nothing disrespectful about criticizing people in power when we disagree with them. Apparently your idea is that just because someone holds governmental power, that means we are disrespectful unless we either agree or keep our mouths shut. If that is your belief system, I'm glad I don't have the same belief system. People don't get to take away my right to think for myself and express my opinions just because they are in office. My respect has to be earned. I don't just automatically bestow respect upon others simply because they are judges or politicians.

 

If I have a "fat wallet" I'll have you know I worked for it. I worked for what I have and worked damned hard. Nobody gave it to me. I get annoyed with people who resent me because I have more money than they do. What do you expect us "fat wallet" Americans to do, give it away? Give it to you? Are we supposed to feel guilty because we succeeded in life and can afford to live the lifestyle that others wish they could also live?

 

You may find this disgusting, but you know what I'm going to do with what I have? I'm keeping it. I'm going to live on it, enjoy my life with it, make myself comfortable with it, and I'm not going to give it away to anybody, with the possible exception of IRS. When I die, if I could take it with me, that's exactly what I would do. How terrible of me.

 

Now that I think about it, even if you really could take it with you, I'd bet IRS would still manage to get a share of it . . .