Popular Post reader Posted April 19 Popular Post Posted April 19 From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon The highpoint of the British addiction to Thailand was the year 2011 when there were almost 900,000 entries by British passport holders. The information was from the Thai immigration bureau, though it was likely a slight overestimate as it counted re-entries by the same person as additional individuals. These days the bureau sadly does not publish data in the same detailed way country by country. Meanwhile, another useful statistical source, the UK government’s shock annual report British Behaviour Abroad, was discontinued several years ago. Maybe it provided too many salacious stories about sex, drugs and awful traffic accidents. The number of Brits declined in the mid-2020s to about half the 2011 totals. In spite of the covid pandemic, the international tourist numbers in Thailand are now approaching the 2019 figure of almost 40 million according to the Tourist Authority of Thailand. However, the principal recruiting grounds are now China, Russia and India whose nationals are no longer required to obtain prior visas. According to the Board of Investment, Brits have shown little interest in longstay visas such as the newish 10-year Long Term Residence which encourages the well-heeled to make a base in Thailand. The decline in British tourist numbers to Thailand has several roots. There’s stiff competition from eastern Europe and sun-baked rivals in south east Asia. The rising cost of international air fares and immigration bureaucracy, notably the TM30 residence form which can carry a financial penalty if ignored may also be factors. Almost daily reports of Brits being arrested and jailed in Thailand and disturbing stories about the non-insured facing huge bills after a traffic accident surely play a role. The notion that Thailand is the Wild West where anything goes, assuming it was once true, is now buried six feet under. The 2011 statistics showed there were around 60,000 Brits living in Thailand for most or all of the year. The UK Institute for Public Policy recently estimated the number at only 41,000 in 2024. For working expats, the opportunities in traditional industries such as oil and gas are smaller, whilst the Japanese and the Chinese are the dominant foreign presence in newer industries such as car manufacture and industrial estates. Working without a permit and using illegal Thai nominees in businesses these days are risky lifestyles with ongoing surveillance by police and employment officials. British retirees have long been a feature of the expat population in Thailand, but their numbers are also in decline. Inflationary pressures, not to mention the high cost of inpatient hospital care, are significant issues especially as some British pensions – including the state one – are frozen from annual increases. Expat clubs in Phuket, Pattaya and Chiang Mai have been dominated of late by talk of the Thai Revenue policy to tax “assessable” foreign income with complaining British voices being amongst the loudest. Social media is abundant with English-speaking expats threatening to leave Thailand for pastures new in Cambodia, Vietnam or the Philippines where the tax authorities are, it is hoped, more indulgent. It certainly does look like the British love affair with Thailand is losing its magic. KeepItReal, TMax, Boy69 and 2 others 2 3 Quote
Moses Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 hour ago, reader said: China, Russia and India whose nationals are no longer required to obtain prior visas "No longer"? Does author knows words "fact checking"? Bilateral agreement btw Russia and Thailand has been signed in 2005... Marc in Calif 1 Quote
reader Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 There's nothing that's not factual about the statement. It's simply doesn't contain all the historical data you'd like to see incorporated. Marc in Calif, Boy69 and khaolakguy 3 Quote
Moses Posted April 19 Posted April 19 10 minutes ago, reader said: It's simply doesn't contain all the historical data you'd like to see incorporated. “I would like to see incorporated” the fact that in 2011, at the peak of visits from the UK with an “exaggerated” number of 900K, there were more than 1.1 million visits by Russians without visas. So the words that “a visa is no longer required” in relation to Russian citizens are simply profanity. Marc in Calif 1 Quote
reader Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 But nevertheless still factual 🙂 JimmyJoe and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote
10tazione Posted April 19 Posted April 19 May the exchange rate is another reason? Boy69, reader and vinapu 3 Quote
Marc in Calif Posted April 19 Posted April 19 5 hours ago, Moses said: "No longer"? Does author knows words "fact checking"? Bilateral agreement btw Russia and Thailand has been signed in 2005... WRONG! This is your own error in comprehension -- again. Will you blame it on Google Translate -- again? "No longer" makes NO reference to the length of time that has passed. It does not refer to "recently" or "just now". So the statement is correct. "No longer" means that Russians at some time in the past required visits, but they don't any longer. And that time in the past can easily be 2005. And for China and India, the time in the past can be different than for Russia. They're all "no longer" required to have visas. So Reader is absolutely correct. 💯 Quote
floridarob Posted April 19 Posted April 19 6 hours ago, Moses said: "No longer"? Does author knows words "fact checking"? Probably didn't care....you may, but most of us don't.... 😇 Mavica 1 Quote
Moses Posted April 19 Posted April 19 5 hours ago, Marc in Calif said: This is your own error in comprehension -- again Are you still following me around the forum and counting commas? Good luck to you in your difficult task. You must be terribly angry that I speak your language much better than you speak mine? vinapu 1 Quote
Marc in Calif Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Moses said: Are you still following me around the forum and counting commas? You keep backpedaling and getting embarrassed! 😊 There were NO commas to count in your foolish response. Show me ONE comma! Here's what it looks like: , You need to get someone to check the Google translations for you. You're missing a lot by not understanding them! Score = 0️⃣ Please study the meaning of "no longer" in English. it clearly doesn't mean what you think. 🤣 Quote
vinapu Posted April 20 Posted April 20 19 hours ago, 10tazione said: May the exchange rate is another reason? I suspect that the main one reader 1 Quote
Ruthrieston Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I moved to live in Pattaya from my home in London UK in 2011, but the appalling drop in the exchange rate after the insane vote to leave the EU has cost me dear. The day before the vote I got 56 Baht to the pound, and the day after the vote it dropped to 36 Baht to the pound. Now at 45 Baht we are still well down. reader, vinapu and Boy69 1 2 Quote