I may do a side trip

[Marc in Calif]

6 hours ago, Polit said:

Not my experience of Taipei, plenty of thinks and twunks around!

@floridarob makes these errors often. 

First he overgeneralizes about a place based on pitifully little experience and small sample sizes.  0️⃣

And then he makes a pronouncement in these forums as the final word on the subject! 🤣

[iendo]

On 4/18/2024 at 11:23 PM, floridarob said:

 

There are a few clubs that gay guys go to , but the cover charge and not the types I'm looking for was enough of a deterrent to stick with the apps

As I remember, you and my type differ so can you tell me more about the types that run around in the clubs. Also, what do you mean with "but the cover charge"...you mean that the boys can't pay it or it is to expensive in general? 

[floridarob]

47 minutes ago, iendo said:

As I remember, you and my type differ so can you tell me more about the types that run around in the clubs. Also, what do you mean with "but the cover charge"...you mean that the boys can't pay it or it is to expensive in general? 

Chunky, older & queeny....not all Asians are cute....these are "working guys" looking for clients.

I'm not paying a cover of approx $18 to go and the younger guys don't waste/ can't afford  $18  to go... your mileage can vary, but I doubt it.

I enjoyed the apps just fine and going to eat or having drinks in my hotel.

[Latbear4blk]

Do Asians in Asia (not Asians grown in the West) know how to kiss? I have seen tons of porn and the kissing is so poor and unappealing!

[Latbear4blk]

4 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

@floridarob makes these errors often. 

First he overgeneralizes about a place based on pitifully little experience and small sample sizes.  0️⃣

And then he makes a pronouncement in these forums as the final word on the subject! 🤣

Perhaps it takes one who thinks he knows everything to recognize someone with the same qualities.

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

Perhaps it takes one who thinks he knows everything to recognize someone with the same qualities.

I blocked him, he's useless and misinterprets everything as though he's the expert and the almighty of morals, on a board for gay whores, smh

My experience vastly overshadows his....in matters that I comment on..... I must have offended him by saying this, Chunky, older & queeny....hit too close to home for him, 😛

I highly recommend the ignore button, for him too.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

 on a board for gay whores,

which board is that ? i never seem to come across one

[floridarob]

9 minutes ago, vinapu said:

which board is that ? i never seem to come across one

You're one of the most esteemed members 👑

[vinapu]

11 minutes ago, floridarob said:

You're one of the most esteemed members 👑

I know

[Latbear4blk]

[Marc in Calif]

On 4/21/2024 at 6:35 PM, floridarob said:

I blocked him, he's useless and misinterprets everything as though he's the expert and the almighty of morals, on a board for gay whores, smh

My experience vastly overshadows his....in matters that I comment on..... I must have offended him by saying this, Chunky, older & queeny....hit too close to home for him, 😛

I highly recommend the ignore button, for him too.

So glad he blocked me. His overgeneralizations about places where he spends virtually no time are legendary. 🤡

When I've spent vastly more time in a place than he has, his overgeneralizations are particularly foolish. They show how shallow and prejudiced he really is! 🤣

[westernguy]

On 4/18/2024 at 11:16 PM, Olddaddy said:

I'm staying 2 months in Pattaya next trip

I'm going to get bored.

I will do a side trip a few days only maybe maximum 4 days 

Im thinking places I have never been.

 

😯Vietnam,never been ,  best Gay area? Hanoi?? Ho chi minh?

Price similar to Thailand?

 

😯Cambodia - Siem Reap , best gay area? 

😯Poipet? Anything there ?

I don't like Phomn Penh already been stated in Arthurs ok but not again 

😯Malaysia?

Never been ,love to go , expensive?

Boys? Gay area?

😯Laos , I went to Vientiane once in 2014 seems boring though , anything changed ?

😮 Philippines,3 hours from Bangkok,been three times already so not considered 

😮Taiwan ?

😮 Myanmar, went once in 2014 , probably not safe 

 

I stayed in Jomtien Beach in January this year for 2 weeks.  I was bored after a week.  Can't imagine staying there for 2 months. 

I visited HCMC and Da Nang in March.  HCMC was incredibly busy...7 million motorbikes.  I absolutely loved Da Nang.  Incredible beaches, great food and a few other attractions when beach isn't on the menu for that day.  Definitely will go back.  Stayed at the DLG...was wonderful and perfect location.

Edited April 26 by westernguy
grammer correction

[Keithambrose]

30 minutes ago, westernguy said:

I stayed in Jomtien Beach in January this year for 2 weeks.  I was bored after a week.  Can't imagine staying there for 2 months. 

I visited HCMC and Da Nang in March.  HCMC was incredibly busy...7 million motorbikes.  I absolutely loved Da Nang.  Incredible beaches, great food and a few other attractions when beach isn't on the menu for that day.  Definitely will go back.  Stayed at the DLG...was wonderful and perfect location.

Grammer?

[thaiophilus]

54 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Grammer?

Speeling.

[bkkmfj2648]

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.

I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.

I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.

I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).

The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.

Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1

I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  

To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).

Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.

Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.

so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

[Marc in Calif]

5 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  

May I ask where you found your masseurs? And do you know anything about the massage spas in Da Nang?

[vinapu]

14 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 

so, I guess I need to do a trip report -

yes

[bkkmfj2648]

12 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

May I ask where you found your masseurs? And do you know anything about the massage spas in Da Nang?

I found my masseurs in the apps:

HeeSay and in Grindr

Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.

I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:

 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,

- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,

- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure

Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?

None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?

They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.

I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....

For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam

The contact details for this unique massage shop are:

  local phone number: 0363 640 356

WhatsApp number:  +84363640356

email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com

The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.

The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.

Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:

 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy

- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration

You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

Edited April 27 by bkkmfj2648
fix mispelling and added some bolding

[ichigo]

This is great information @bkkmfj2648.

To further add to the above, the only place in Vietnam I've been to is Phu Quoc, and similar to Da Nang, the massage boys will make themselves known on the apps (I used Grindr), whether they are from a shop or freelance (although there is not a lot of choice there, and the grid even reaches to nearby Cambodia). One guy that approached me sent me a price list, from memory I think it was 300k VND if I came to his shop, or he said he could come to me and I can pay what I like. He ended up coming to my hotel and we had quite a good time. When I converted 300k VND to my home currency, it was incredibly cheap so I just gave him double. 

[Boy69]

12 minutes ago, ichigo said:

This is great information @bkkmfj2648.

To further add to the above, the only place in Vietnam I've been to is Phu Quoc, and similar to Da Nang, the massage boys will make themselves known on the apps (I used Grindr), whether they are from a shop or freelance (although there is not a lot of choice there, and the grid even reaches to nearby Cambodia). One guy that approached me sent me a price list, from memory I think it was 300k VND if I came to his shop, or he said he could come to me and I can pay what I like. He ended up coming to my hotel and we had quite a good time. When I converted 300k VND to my home currency, it was incredibly cheap so I just gave him double. 

Are you sure it's about USD 12 ?

[bkkmfj2648]

6 minutes ago, ichigo said:

This is great information @bkkmfj2648.

To further add to the above, the only place in Vietnam I've been to is Phu Quoc, and similar to Da Nang, the massage boys will make themselves known on the apps (I used Grindr), whether they are from a shop or freelance (although there is not a lot of choice there, and the grid even reaches to nearby Cambodia). One guy that approached me sent me a price list, from memory I think it was 300k VND if I came to his shop, or he said he could come to me and I can pay what I like. He ended up coming to my hotel and we had quite a good time. When I converted 300k VND to my home currency, it was incredibly cheap so I just gave him double. 

Thanks for the compliment ichigo.  This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members.

I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time.

I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc.  I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop.  The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other.  This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right.  When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious.  I left there so horny and frustrated.  My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place.  To this day, I think about that moment.  If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 - too much free time as a retiree....

 

there's no such thing

[reader]

6 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

Exactly. And some of those secrets are hidden in plain sight.

Many thanks for your report.🙏

[ichigo]

3 hours ago, Boy69 said:

Are you sure it's about USD 12 ?

Yes, you can check the menu on google maps https://maps.app.goo.gl/n29Udt4eyfACM5ts7 

[floridarob]

8 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right. 

I'm the youngest in my family, so I learned to be quiet early in life...... One time while getting a foot massage at Tarntawan massage, where I think Green Massage is now, the guy covered me loosely with a blanket because instead of changing into their massage pants, I just stayed in boxers. He kept "accidently" touching my dick underneath, I told him  I liked that.....the shop had other people getting foot massages and no one noticed that he had jerked me off under the blanket and used a spare towel to clean up.....great stealth technique he had, and yes, no moaning from me...