floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, roughjock said: I also had a non-paid hook-up with a 23cm Thai/Cambodian guy, but that's even more lurid as he was in to strong fetishes. go on......🧐 vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 55 minutes ago, floridarob said: go on......🧐 What's the boards policy on watersports? floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 12 minutes ago, roughjock said: What's the boards policy on watersports? They should reflect the high standard of performance as exhibited by the former president.* * See Trump, golden shower, Moscow, 2013, et al. Londoner, Marc in Calif, Patanawet and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, reader said: They should reflect the high standard of performance as exhibited by the former president.* * See Trump, golden shower, Moscow, 2013, et al. Oh my god 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flying_Angel Posted April 12 Popular Post Share Posted April 12 I really pity the Americans for this jerk... kokopelli3, floridarob, Daddy415 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, roughjock said: What's the boards policy on watersports? No peeing on the moderators.....most of them anyway. vinapu and Latbear4blk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draden Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Thanks for these great reports, @roughjock. Question for the group ... my past experiences with MBs were in Japan and Taiwan where, if they're sold as open to bottoming, there's really no resistance or backpeddling at the moment and they usually at least give the appearance of being into it. Will I have a noticeably different experience in Thailand? (I notice that rough jock has had a few sub-par interactions.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Draden said: (I notice that rough jock has had a few sub-par interactions.) he's not alone....happens with tops and bottoms...so many customers perpetuate this issue by paying them for not doing what they said they would....and some tip them on top of that! JimmyJoe and Draden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draden Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, floridarob said: he's not alone....happens with tops and bottoms...so many customers perpetuate this issue by paying them for not doing what they said they would....and some tip them on top of that! Are massage parlors a safer bet than bars? I think I've mentioned this in another thread, but I notice like Onespa and K-Man label the guys clearly Top or Vers. Just wondering if "Vers" means "Top but will unenthusiastically Bottom with a 5X markup." Ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Draden said: Are massage parlors a safer bet than bars? Yes, with the limited time of the massage duration purchased....I like to hang out, have some drinks, not just sex express.... So whether on the apps or bars, I try to be very direct/explicit in what I'm looking for so there is no misunderstanding. If they don't live up to their end of the deal, I'm not shy to send them away without payment (maybe some small transportations money)... I've brought guys back to the mamasans in the past, not many but perhaps a handful over the years because they were blatantly playing the , do nothing and get paid game....I don't play that. vinapu, Draden, reader and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Draden said: Are massage parlors a safer bet than bars? I think I've mentioned this in another thread, but I notice like Onespa and K-Man label the guys clearly Top or Vers. Just wondering if "Vers" means "Top but will unenthusiastically Bottom with a 5X markup." Ha. There’s no hard rule. That’s the tricky part. It depends on the day, the model you hire, your attitude towards him, his attitude in the moment… It’s very… “hey I know you have to pay me, so let’s see what I can get away with” in my negative experiences. Whereas a massage parlor, they are way more invested in ensuring you leave happy. reader, BL8gPt, Draden and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draden Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Thanks @roughjock and @floridarob! Those replies satisfy my apprehension quite a bit. (I'm not really the hang-out and get to know you type so it sounds like what may not be a selling point for others, may work for me!) Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I consider myself very picky, but even then, ive had some duds before. But i still consider bars to be the preferred way to get my guy of the night, as i preferred LT, and its the bar that gives me higher rate of willing guys. Many masseurs arent even willing to meet outside their workplace, even less that are willing to take LT after whole day working at the center. Though i blame myself too as i rarely make effort to take them off site as i like the massage table better when getting massage. Plus considering they can get more per hour in the center, especially if they are popular, its hard to motivate them to be with you LT, unless you are willing to be more generous. I wouldnt bank on straight top guy to bottom for you either. Very unlikely itll lead to a satisfaction ending. vinapu, Ryanqqq and floridarob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, spoon said: Many masseurs arent even willing to meet outside their workplace, even less that are willing to take LT after whole day working at the center. Though i blame myself too as i rarely make effort to take them off site as i like the massage table better when getting massage I've had different experience but only after I'd had a few massages in shop and got to know them. Developing mutual trust is the key. But agree it takes time and effort. 2 hours ago, spoon said: I wouldnt bank on straight top guy to bottom for you either. Very unlikely itll lead to a satisfaction ending. +1 floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/10/2024 at 7:29 PM, ToTheCore said: .... and then to finalize a firmly agreed upon price for an exact expectation of performance... before you both decide to walk out of the venue. While I agree with you, my own way of handling this is to fix firmly price and length of time ( short or long, usually more specific, like short at least 2 hrs or long till breakfast) but leave performance out to see what happens , how it will work out and what section of stamp collection we will be checking. I ask them if they kiss though but always only after deal is sealed so they don't need to lie in order to get a business. Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, vinapu said: I ask them if they kiss though but always only after deal is sealed so they don't need to lie in order to get a business. So if they say yes, and then they don't deliver on the kissing, do you say, "But... you said yes!" Can you convince them? Or are you simply disappointed and then quickly move on to the next page of the stamp collection? 😘 vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Marc in Calif said: So if they say yes, and then they don't deliver on the kissing, do you say, "But... you said yes!" Can you convince them? Or are you simply disappointed and then quickly move on to the next page of the stamp collection? 😘 actually I don't recall situation you describe with exception of one, long time ago at BBB Inn when boy named Boy from Tawan said " teeth first", hard to blame him I guess. From there all went according to specification. If situation you describe would happen , no I were to move to next page but brush my teeth first and see if that changed anything. But had reverse situation , non kissing guy suddenly got smart in the room and offered kiss in exchange of extra tip , honestly I don't recall how much it was but certainly not outrageous. Then I declined, after a bit of exercising he planted kiss and on dismissal I doubled his requested additional tip getting another , quite juicy this time , kiss. Next offs we did not have issues, kisses were included in package. Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, vinapu said: actually I don't recall situation you describe with exception of one, long time ago at BBB Inn when boy named Boy from Tawan said " teeth first", hard to blame him I guess. Wait... Did he ask you to remove your teeth first? 😁 Latbear4blk, khaolakguy, gerefan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/12/2024 at 9:50 PM, floridarob said: .so many customers perpetuate this issue by paying them for not doing what they said they would.. easy problem to solve- don't ask them what they will do and just go with the flow. There's always something we can do with naked man sporting erection reader, Latbear4blk, Marc in Calif and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 19 hours ago, spoon said: But i still consider bars to be the preferred way to get my guy of the night, as i preferred LT, and its the bar that gives me higher rate of willing guys. +1 7 hours ago, Marc in Calif said: Wait... Did he ask you to remove your teeth first? 😁 wrong address, I still have my own, old fashioned natural 31 pieces ,no crowns , no bridges or other modern inventions Marc in Calif and Ryanqqq 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, vinapu said: There's always something we can do with naked man sporting erection I'm not into stamp collecting and as a bottom, I'm not paying someone wanting me to fuck them....plenty of that for free online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, floridarob said: I'm not into stamp collecting what about sport cards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted April 14 Members Share Posted April 14 8 hours ago, vinapu said: +1 wrong address, I still have my own, old fashioned natural 31 pieces ,no crowns , no bridges or other modern inventions My dentures just cracked out of envy. vinapu and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 11 hours ago, vinapu said: +1 wrong address, I still have my own, old fashioned natural 31 pieces ,no crowns , no bridges or other modern inventions Not 32? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Not 32? one removed when I was in grade 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...