Guest LastSamurai Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I plan to come to Thailand mid-January to mid-March and would like a Thai man ---well, it will turn out to be, more probably, a Thai boy --- to live in with me in Pattaya/Jomtien for about 6 weeks. Since, as an elderly gentleman, I would be reluctant to pick up a guy on the streets or the beach for security reasons, I consider the only practical alternative is to solicit the aid of a mama-san to locate a suitable boy interested in my proposal. My requirements are that the boy arrive at my place each evening around 6 or 7 PM and remain with me until 8 or 9 AM the following morning, during which time he should display some caring warmth and affection. His daytime hours will be free, except for one day a week when I would want his help with light household chores and grocery shopping. I would also want him to help teach me basic Thai language and social manners. I could also help him brush up his English to improve his conversational skills with farang customers. As a rule, I do not intend to take him to nightime venues or buy him gifts. I have an expectation that neither of us will have sex with others during the term of this engagement. Also, I wish an initial 3 day trial period (paid, of course), at the end of which either of us may decide to terminate the arrangement. Upon my departure from Thailand, there will be no further financial support, though I would most likely want to stay in touch with him. As compensation for his time, I propose to offer him B 1,000 per day, in addition to resonably comfortable accommodation and two meals per day. To the mama-san, I would offer B 150 per day on the understanding that the boy will be accepted back into the bar after my departure should he choose to do so. I would be much interested in hearing any constructive opinions from men experienced in these matters. Is this "a decent proposal"? Is this level of compensation to the boy/mama-san about right? too low? Too high? What rate should it be? Can you suggest any better alternative to pursue that might meet my requirements? Thank you for your advice. Quote
Guest Astrrro Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 It's easy enough to get boys to live with you. The bigger problem is getting rid of them. I suggest you butterfly the first week and try out many boys and see which one you click with best. And you might find out that after playing house for a few weeks you will want a change. So I think it's best to pay a day at a time for clarity and avoid commitments. Quote
fedssocr Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Expecting a bar boy to teach you Thai in two months is unlikely. If you really want to learn Thai enroll in a language school or find a real teacher. I don't know that your compensation offer is enough exactly. Sounds like you are trying to avoid paying a bar's off fee and the usual long time rate. But times are tough and I suppose it's possible that some one would accept a "sure thing" albeit at a lower rate rather than the prospect of no off at all. I think your expectations for what you want may be too high. Do you really expect that after spending every night for two months plus some days here and there with some boy that you would be able to simply say "goodbye, nice knowing you" when it is all over? Remember that these guys are people after all. This arrangement you have planned does not seem realistic to me. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I agree with some of your posting, but disagree that 1000 baht/day plus meals and 150 baht/ day to the mamma-san is not enough. That is guaranteed money, both for the boy and the mamma-san. It is not likely that the boy would be taken off every day for 6 weeks. Just saying "Good bye, nice to know you" would be rude, IMHO. If the boy was loyal and did for 6 weeks as he agreed in the beginning, he would deserve a large tip at the end in addition to his salary. Quote
Gaybutton Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Can you suggest any better alternative to pursue that might meet my requirements? If you don't already have an account, make one with GayRomeo and place your proposal there. I guarantee you'll have responses within hours. The idea of relying on a mama-san doesn't make much sense to me. An awful lot of mama-sans will tell you virtually anything if they think there might be money in it for them. I also think a young bar boy would be the last type of boy you would want for the purposes you propose. I think the chances of that working out for very long the way you expect with a young bar boy are quite remote. I think you want someone at least in his late twenties or early thirties or even older. That's also where GayRomeo could come in. You can cruise GayRomeo yourself and discuss your proposal with young men you find there who seem to fit your requirements. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 That's a better suggestion, GB. Quote
Guest Hedda Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I'm with Astrro on this one: forget about finding a male bride before you get here and find your own companion "in the flesh" once you are here. It's far better to try on that new pair of shoes in the shop before you buy than try to live with blisters from an ill-fitting pair of loafers ordered from an internet catalog. Plan on doing the rounds of the beach and bars for the first few days and get an idea of what's available. If money is a factor, remember that a free-lance beach boy doesn't come with bar fees and tips and you can always ask your beach concessionaire what they know about the boy you fancy. You can certainly make advance dates on a website like GayRomeo, as GB suggests, but avoid any commitments beyond one date because what you see on a Romeo ad is not necessarily what you get in person - in years, looks, assets and personality. Clark Kent could turn out to be Lois Lane. Since you'll be here for six weeks, you can afford to spend the first week window shopping and sampling the fare to find the right guy. When you do,keep your options open and book him for a short trial period at first, just in case you weary of the diet and would like to sample other cookies in the jar. If you're "elderly", you may also want to reconsider the daily schedule to give you time to recharge your bunny. Offer to pay what you think you can reasonable afford and see if he asks for more. And never pay in advance. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 "There is a fatality about all good resolutions. They are invariably made too soon" Oscar Wilde Quote
Guest tdperhs Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Can you suggest any better alternative to pursue that might meet my requirements? Keep one hand in your fly and the other on your wallet. Make no commitments past the return date on your airline ticket. You are guaranteed to go home with fewer disappointments. Take your chances on your next visit when you will have a better idea of what you will be facing here. Quote
Guest Geezer Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 LastSamurai, check your messages. PS: I don't see my message on my "Sent Messages Archive". Let me know if you don't get it. Quote
MrBill Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 If you don't already have an account, make one with GayRomeo and place your proposal there. I guarantee you'll have responses within hours. Quote
MrBill Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 IMHO - I would also suggest trying out camfrog - http://www.camfrog.com . Go to the drop down box in the upper right corner that list countries/areas. click on Thailand from the drop down then check the 18+ tab under video chat rooms. I would suggest getting to know a few boys before making any proposal. After a few days/weeks online you'll soon find out who is out for money only and who is a regular. I find more college students on Camfrog. The prospect of making some steady money in the evenings and having the day free go to class can be an inducement. You might also find some "boys" who work in legit establishments like hotel night clerks who could use the extra money, as many hotels have been struggling with low bookings and staff are paying the price. I've met many nice boys this way who are waiting for my next trip to Pattaya and have yet to ask for anything in advance. Quote
Gaybutton Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 I would also suggest trying out camfrog Is there a time of day (Thailand time) that seems to work best for you? Quote
firecat69 Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 After you select someone and video comes up How do you make contact?? Also is there way to select males only and I don't find tab for 18 plus thanks Quote
